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Monday, October 23, 2017

Mets name Callaway as next manager

Despite their 2017 struggles on the mound, the Mets remain a team built upon pitching. As such, the Mets have imported an expert to replace Terry Collins, hiring Indians pitching coach Mickey Callaway as the 21st manager in team history on Monday.

Callaway will be introduced at a 4 p.m. ET news conference at Citi Field, which will be streamed live on MLB.com and mets.com.

I got nothing on this. Is he the cheap option?

manchestermets Posted: October 23, 2017 at 02:23 PM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Nasty Nate Posted: October 23, 2017 at 04:56 PM (#5560580)
A couple years too late to have Big Bertha on the staff...
   2. Walt Davis Posted: October 23, 2017 at 05:02 PM (#5560588)
Who was the last pitching coach to become a successful manager? Seems like they always flounder but maybe that doesn't hold up under analysis. Dag?
   3. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 23, 2017 at 05:23 PM (#5560610)
Who was the last pitching coach to become a successful manager?


Bud Black.
   4. philphan Posted: October 23, 2017 at 05:25 PM (#5560613)
Bud Black has done pretty well. Bryan Price, not so much.

And, of course, John Farrell has done pretty well also, and will probably get another gig soon.

Pitching coaches rarely get a chance to manage in the first place, I suspect (haven't run the numbers), so it may be hard to come to meaningful conclusions.

   5. Khrushin it bro Posted: October 23, 2017 at 06:02 PM (#5560655)
I hate it when A-Rod tries to take all the attention during the playoffs.
   6. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: October 24, 2017 at 10:23 AM (#5560825)
I am sure he'll be OK. At the end of the day, either the pitching staff is going to be healthy enough to be competitive or not. Not really much the manager can do about that.
   7. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: October 24, 2017 at 10:57 AM (#5560847)
He's certainly enthusiastic, I'll give him that.

He might have a little Good Bobby V in him.
   8. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:13 AM (#5560854)
The Braves declined their club option of RA Dickey today. He was only due 8 million and the buyout was 500K. I have to believe that he wants to retire and the Braves bought him out because he let them know because he's a bargain at that price on a one year deal. I'd try to convince him to come back to the Mets because he's exactly what they need, a guy who won't be awesome but will make 30 starts and be average. Every team needs that but the Mets more than most. He's a fan favorite as well.
   9. SoSH U at work Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:16 AM (#5560856)
Who was the last pitching coach to become a successful manager?


Further back, who was the last manager named Mickey?

Hatcher never advanced past Scioscia pet.
   10. Batman Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:22 AM (#5560860)
Roger Craig went to a World Series and finished over .500. Exactly one game over, in 1475 total games.
   11. Lassus Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM (#5560861)
but will make 30 starts and be average.

Have not paid a bit of attention - is he indeed actually average?
   12. Nasty Nate Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:24 AM (#5560863)
The Braves declined their club option of RA Dickey today. He was only due 8 million and the buyout was 500K. I have to believe that he wants to retire and the Braves bought him out because he let them know because he's a bargain at that price on a one year deal.
If so, he must have been a nice guy in his one year there to prompt them to gift him a half mill.
   13. manchestermets Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:46 AM (#5560882)
Have not paid a bit of attention - is he indeed actually average?


ERA+ of 100 in 2017 so, yes. 4.72 FIP against 4.26 ERA though.

Also, only 12 comments so far? Not so long ago a new Mets manager would have generated more comments than this in any random Newsblog thread.
   14. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:51 AM (#5560886)
George Bamberger was successful for a while.

Further back, who was the last manager named Mickey?


Cochrane?

edit: Mickey Vernon, the first manager of the Senators 2.0
   15. Lassus Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:56 AM (#5560893)
Also, only 12 comments so far? Not so long ago a new Mets manager would have generated more comments than this in any random Newsblog thread.

This year took a lot out of a lot of Mets fans.
   16. Bote Man Posted: October 24, 2017 at 12:08 PM (#5560902)
The Nationals are gonna be in a world of hurt if all the discount managerial options get gobbled up before they can secure one.

But, maybe they're onto something? Why pay more? I mean, if the manager is essentially a place-holder or middleman between the galaxy brains in the front office and the players on the field you don't really need someone who asks for a lot of money or brings a big name to the office. H3ll, just bring Little Big League to life!
   17. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: October 24, 2017 at 12:17 PM (#5560914)
I hear The Nats are looking at Kevin Long, Bote...
   18. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: October 24, 2017 at 12:36 PM (#5560935)

ERA+ of 100 in 2017 so, yes. 4.72 FIP against 4.26 ERA though.


Dickey is a knuckleballer and they almost always outperform their peripherals. Dickey has outperformed his peripherals every year since 2010, his first as a starting pitcher. He has a 3.66 ERA over that time, and a 4.20 FIP. It is likely sustainable.

If so, he must have been a nice guy in his one year there to prompt them to gift him a half mill.

If they aren't doing it because they are nice, they are doing it because they aren't very smart. Dickey is a bargain at 8 million for one season and if he wants to pitch next year the Braves would probably be able to trade him for a solid prospect.
   19. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: October 24, 2017 at 12:56 PM (#5560950)
Actually, looking into it, the Braves had until the end of the World Series to decide whether to buy him out. I guess they didn't want to see if he wanted to pitch or not.
   20. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: October 24, 2017 at 01:04 PM (#5560952)
This may sound whacky, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if R.A. were named the new Mets pitching coach.
   21. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: October 24, 2017 at 01:10 PM (#5560963)
it wouldn't surprise me at all if R.A. were named the new Mets pitching coach.

"First, you all need the UCL in your pitching elbow removed. Then we'll talk beginner strategy."
   22. Nasty Nate Posted: October 24, 2017 at 01:20 PM (#5560972)
If they aren't doing it because they are nice, they are doing it because they aren't very smart. Dickey is a bargain at 8 million for one season and if he wants to pitch next year the Braves would probably be able to trade him for a solid prospect.
OK, but if he told them he wants to retire, what reason besides generosity would they have for declining his option and triggering the buyout?
   23. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: October 24, 2017 at 02:34 PM (#5561018)
OK, but if he told them he wants to retire, what reason besides generosity would they have for declining his option and triggering the buyout?


I assume it's a timing thing. They probably have to decide between option/buyout by the end of the world series and if hasn't elected retirement by that point then would they find themselves on the hook for $8,000,000 for a guy who retires?
   24. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 24, 2017 at 02:44 PM (#5561025)
They probably have to decide between option/buyout by the end of the world series and if hasn't elected retirement by that point then would they find themselves on the hook for $8,000,000 for a guy who retires?

If he retires, he forfeits the remainder of his contract.
   25. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: October 24, 2017 at 05:52 PM (#5561192)
This may sound whacky, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if R.A. were named the new Mets pitching coach.

I don't know about that. Dickey could pitch and make a lot more money if he wanted to go through the travel and daily grind of being a major leaguer. Being a pitching coach doesn't look like it would be much different.
   26. donlock Posted: October 24, 2017 at 11:04 PM (#5561540)
Well, the Orioles had Ray Miller and Phil Regan as managers. Oh, never mind, "Successful"?

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