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Monday, April 22, 2019

Mets need struggling Noah Syndergaard to back up his words

Thor can’t close the door.

This strange Sunday could have had a much different ending if not for another poor outing from Noah Syndergaard.

Syndergaard did enough wrong on his own to merit the loss, but he got little help on defense from shortstop Amed Rosario. Rosario’s second-inning error helped the Cardinals to three runs on their way to the 6-4 victory at Busch Stadium.

The big right-hander allowed six runs, four earned, as his ERA shot up to 5.90. The Mets lost six of the last eight games on this 10-game trip.

“The entire beginning of the season my performances have been unacceptable,’’ Syndergaard said. “I have to be better and I will be better.’’

Jim Furtado Posted: April 22, 2019 at 10:38 AM | 27 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Howie Menckel Posted: April 22, 2019 at 11:09 AM (#5834092)
allowed a walk leading off an inning in 2018: 2

already in 2019: 4

seems like something mechanical and/or mental
   2. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 22, 2019 at 11:15 AM (#5834094)

He did get some defensive help from Dexter Fowler -- Syndergaard hit a fly ball to center that went off Fowler's glove and over the fence. Wouldn't have been a HR without Fowler's assistance.
   3. PreservedFish Posted: April 22, 2019 at 11:17 AM (#5834097)
seems like something mechanical and/or mental


What exactly did you rule out here? Spiritual explanations?
   4. dejarouehg Posted: April 22, 2019 at 11:30 AM (#5834106)
What exactly did you rule out here? Spiritual explanations?


It could be an issue of talent, though I don't think that's the case. At some point he needs to SOGOTP because he should be an ace. (I'd still go with mechanical.)

The baseball world is littered with arms that have seemingly been touched by the gods but can't get out major league batters the way we all expect.

Daniel Bard comes to mind. From eons ago, Sam McDowell, who had some major help from booze.






   5. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: April 22, 2019 at 12:30 PM (#5834123)
His peripherals are still really good but I do suspect that he'll always be a guy who does a but worse than his peripherals suggest. His fastball is more hittable than you'd think it'd be. He probably won't be a Cy Young contender but a 105-115 ERA+ guy is still pretty good.
   6. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: April 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM (#5834125)
Just spitballing here, but maybe a guy who throws a lot of sinkers and generally keeps the ball low would benefit from not having a really bad infield defense. I certainly will not let Noah completely off the hook here because it seems like a combination of things. But maybe we better not kill him too much over 4 or 5 starts.
   7. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: April 22, 2019 at 12:40 PM (#5834126)
His peripherals are still really good but I do suspect that he'll always be a guy who does a but worse than his peripherals suggest. His fastball is more hittable than you'd think it'd be. He probably won't be a Cy Young contender but a 105-115 ERA+ guy is still pretty good.


He lacks an "out" pitch. He seems to allow a lot of foul balls with 2-strike counts.
   8. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 22, 2019 at 12:45 PM (#5834128)
What exactly did you rule out here? Spiritual explanations?
Hasn't been sacrificing the right animals.
   9. PreservedFish Posted: April 22, 2019 at 12:48 PM (#5834130)
The infield defense has only gotten better though. It used to be all guys like Asdrubel and Flores and Duda.
   10. Adam Starblind Posted: April 22, 2019 at 01:14 PM (#5834147)
He lacks an "out" pitch. He seems to allow a lot of foul balls with 2-strike counts.


Gotta disagree. He has 10.6 k/9 this season, 10.0 for his career.
   11. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: April 22, 2019 at 01:53 PM (#5834162)
The infield defense has only gotten better though. It used to be all guys like Asdrubel and Flores and Duda.


I don't know. Rosario is bad. JD Davis is bad. Cano might be ok. Alonso is probably alright but tough to tell at this point.

McNeil seems pretty good.

It might be a SSS but I am pretty concerned about the infield defense right now. Way more concerned than I am about Noah.
   12. Lassus Posted: April 22, 2019 at 01:57 PM (#5834168)
For whatever his career value, wasn't Asdrubel - during his time with the Mets - above average in fielding statistics?
   13. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: April 22, 2019 at 02:01 PM (#5834170)
in 21 games on bRef Davis, Rosario, Cano, and Alonso have already accumulated -1.4 dWAR. Obviously very small sample but they have not been good. By the eye test, Rosario's hands and Davis' range have looked brutal. But I'm certainly not a scout so maybe it's just SSS and it will improve.
   14. Hysterical & Useless Posted: April 22, 2019 at 02:03 PM (#5834171)
Gotta disagree. He has 10.6 k/9 this season, 10.0 for his career.


Isn't that like league average nowadays?
   15. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: April 22, 2019 at 02:03 PM (#5834172)
For whatever his career value, wasn't Asdrubel - during his time with the Mets - above average in fielding statistics?


not according to baseball reference defensive WAR

2016 NYM -0.1
2017 NYM -0.9
2018 NYM -1.5 (98 games YIKES!)
   16. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: April 22, 2019 at 02:08 PM (#5834174)
What exactly did you rule out here? Spiritual explanations?


It could be an issue of talent, though I don't think that's the case. At some point he needs to SOGOTP


Sacrifice to the Outer Gods or Take Punishment?
   17. Lassus Posted: April 22, 2019 at 02:17 PM (#5834179)
Thanks, Panik. He seemed ok with the naked eye for the time period.
   18. Brian C Posted: April 22, 2019 at 02:17 PM (#5834180)
His peripherals are still really good but I do suspect that he'll always be a guy who does a but worse than his peripherals suggest. His fastball is more hittable than you'd think it'd be. He probably won't be a Cy Young contender but a 105-115 ERA+ guy is still pretty good.

Maybe part of the problem is Mets fans who see a guy with a 125 career ERA+ as a hittable pitcher who maxes out in the 105-115 ERA+ range.
   19. JJ1986 Posted: April 22, 2019 at 02:20 PM (#5834182)
Davis looks atrocious with the glove by the eye test, enough so that I wouldn't be surprised if he's a replacement-level player overall.
   20. Howie Menckel Posted: April 22, 2019 at 02:57 PM (#5834196)
What exactly did you rule out here? Spiritual explanations?

Um, pitching through injury?

Todd Frazier is due back by tomorrow, he would help this D. Mets have fallen in love with JD Davis, and of course McNeil is smoking the ball again this year. Frazier may not play a lot.
   21. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: April 22, 2019 at 02:57 PM (#5834197)
Thanks, Panik. He seemed ok with the naked eye for the time period


I think a big part of the problem was that his range was not acceptable for SS, but that last season he mostly played second (I don't know if you remember how he was kind of annoyed when he found out he was being moved) and his numbers at second were even worse. I think you're right he had decent enough hands but the range was not great.
   22. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: April 22, 2019 at 03:04 PM (#5834201)
Todd Frazier is due back by tomorrow, he would help this D. Mets have fallen in love with JD Davis, and of course McNeil is smoking the ball again this year. Frazier may not play a lot.


I like Todd and I think that he is a useful piece as a part time player. Cano probably won't play tonight so maybe McNeil plays 2B and Todd and Davis split time at 3B. Rosario has to get it together in the field.
   23. Lassus Posted: April 22, 2019 at 03:07 PM (#5834205)
This Cano signing has gone as I've feared, not as I'd hoped.
   24. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: April 22, 2019 at 03:10 PM (#5834208)
Jed Lowrie would be a nice thing to see one of these days.

Am not the slightest bit concerned about Syndergaard as long he's healthy.
   25. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: April 22, 2019 at 03:16 PM (#5834213)
This Cano signing has gone as I've feared, not as I'd hoped.

Looking a bit too Roberto Alomarish, isn't it?
   26. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: April 22, 2019 at 03:30 PM (#5834223)
He had been hitting line drives all over the place until some chump hit him in the wrist. But he definitely got off to a slow start before that.
   27. dejarouehg Posted: April 23, 2019 at 12:14 AM (#5834323)
Sacrifice to the Outer Gods or Take Punishment
That's better than mine, which is "sh*t or get off the pot."

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