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Friday, January 31, 2014

Mets secure $250M loan refinancing

New York Mets owner Fred Wilpon and family, who faced a massive $250 million loan against the team coming due in the next few months, have successfully arranged for it to be refinanced…

And any hope we had of contending for the next 5 years have been dashed!

attaboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 01:49 PM | 67 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:00 PM (#4649318)
The refinanced loan reportedly also does not restrict the Mets' payroll, whereas the original loan's terms capped how much the Mets could spend on players.

Is this a new piece of information? I had no idea that the previous loan specifically restricted team payroll. Anyone know what the limit was?
   2. Lassus Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:05 PM (#4649326)
I still find the OMG OMG THE BROKE RICH PEOPLE ARE DEFINITELY ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY GOING TO LOSE THE TEAM wishcasting to have been just incredible. Where have you all been living?
   3. attaboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:08 PM (#4649327)
I still find the OMG OMG THE BROKE RICH PEOPLE ARE DEFINITELY ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY GOING TO LOSE THE TEAM wishcasting to have been just incredible. Where have you all been living?

When your owner is literally tearing down the team, there is no other choice but hope that he leaves and that seemed to be the best path for it happening, even if it is not likely.
   4. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:16 PM (#4649338)
Sigh...We're gonna be stuck with these clowns until we die, aren't we...?
   5. zonk Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:35 PM (#4649358)
The press release further stated that they were thrilled to be working with their new financier, Vinnie Knuckles.

"Mr. Knuckles gave us exactly the terms we need - he told us point blank he didn't give a #### what we did the money... and then discussed some of the contractual details that are confidential," said a Wilpon spokesperson.

At press time, it is not known if the status of various Met "no show" jobs would remain intact.
   6. Mark S. is bored Posted: January 31, 2014 at 02:49 PM (#4649371)
Sigh...We're gonna be stuck with these clowns until we die, aren't we...?
At some point, they will die (unless they are able to refinance their life with an extension) and the loans will need to be paid by selling the team.
   7. attaboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:08 PM (#4649396)
Is this a new piece of information? I had no idea that the previous loan specifically restricted team payroll. Anyone know what the limit was?

Great catch! If it is anything higher than 90M, I will go on a killing spree!
   8. SouthSideRyan Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:17 PM (#4649407)
At least you all know there's a reason behind your cheapness, the cubs are being cheap solely for the fun of it. That or papa ricketts is way late on Tommy's allowance
   9. The Piehole of David Wells Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:21 PM (#4649410)
I still find the OMG OMG THE BROKE RICH PEOPLE ARE DEFINITELY ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY GOING TO LOSE THE TEAM wishcasting to have been just incredible. Where have you all been living?


Where have you been living? Or do you not remember Hicks being relieved of ownership of the Rangers? Or Frank McCourt having ownership wrestled away from him? It's not "wishcasting" anymore because it's happened twice in the last couple of years.
   10. formerly dp Posted: January 31, 2014 at 03:22 PM (#4649411)
Alderson said yesterday they're going to give Flores a shot at SS during spring training. They're really not fans of Tejada.
   11. Lassus Posted: January 31, 2014 at 04:02 PM (#4649446)
Where have you been living? Or do you not remember Hicks being relieved of ownership of the Rangers? Or Frank McCourt having ownership wrestled away from him? It's not "wishcasting" anymore because it's happened twice in the last couple of years.

McCourt is a special case and involved an insane divorce. That seems hardly relevant as a comparison to me, YMMV. Wilpon has never been in as much trouble as Hicks was. I'm not a finance guy, but I don't think Wilpon was ever as boom/bust a guy as Hicks was.

I mean, maybe I've been just lucky, but from watching rich people from afar, Hicks going under was never a surprise. I just never saw the danger of Wilpon going under, and I still don't see the danger.
   12. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: January 31, 2014 at 04:19 PM (#4649458)
Where have you been living? Or do you not remember Hicks being relieved of ownership of the Rangers? Or Frank McCourt having ownership wrestled away from him? It's not "wishcasting" anymore because it's happened twice in the last couple of years.


McCourt did not have ownership "wrestled away". He sold the team for a shitton of money. He made more money off his ownership of the Dodgers than he could've possibly imagined. He was doing little heel knocks as he walked out of the conference room where they signed the deal.
   13. Swedish Chef Posted: January 31, 2014 at 04:45 PM (#4649480)
I just never saw the danger of Wilpon going under, and I still don't see the danger.

If they weren't in deep trouble I would think that they wouldn't have to starve the Mets and let their cash cow slowly deteriorate.
   14. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: January 31, 2014 at 04:54 PM (#4649491)
If they weren't in deep trouble


They were in deep trouble, until the utterly absurd Dodgers sale went down, all team values immediately went up, that gave them a metric shitload of new equity to borrow against.
   15. formerly dp Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:03 PM (#4649501)
Would it be a huge surprise to see the team add $30 M to the payroll in advance of 2015? They spent a decent amount of money this offseason without overpaying too drastically for anyone.
   16. madvillain Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:08 PM (#4649508)
BROKE RICH MOUNTAIN
   17. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: January 31, 2014 at 05:47 PM (#4649545)
Small market teams just can't compete!

Yes, I'm going to keep using this joke as long as the Wilpons own the team.

Which will be forever.
   18. The Piehole of David Wells Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:04 PM (#4649573)
McCourt did not have ownership "wrestled away".


If you say so. Yeah it was part of a divorce but MLB appointed an overseer to the team and seized control of the team. You go on thinking whatever you want to think, though. Don't let facts confuse you.

He did finally agree to sell the team which was what MLB wanted in the first place and he did make a lot of money. That doesn't mean it wasn't wrestled away from him. If you don't believe me, look it up.

Wilpon's financial problems have been well documented.
   19. cardsfanboy Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:37 PM (#4649590)
Have to agree with Piehole....McCourt was forced to sell by the league. The fact that he made a ton of money doesn't change the fact that it wasn't 100% his decision.
   20. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:46 PM (#4649595)
McCourt is a special case and involved an insane divorce.

Well, there you go! How hard could it be for disgruntled Met fans to seduce Mrs. Wilpon?. Or Fred himself? Just be sure to get pictures.
   21. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: January 31, 2014 at 06:52 PM (#4649599)
How hard could it be for disgruntled Met fans to seduce Mrs. Wilpon?. Or Fred himself?


Have you seen pictures of Fred?
   22. JE (Jason) Posted: January 31, 2014 at 07:22 PM (#4649613)
It's really quite simple: When the owner is also a fanboy, hide yourself. He doesn't want to sell; after all, this was his pre-pube wet dream. Heck, just ask any Deadskin fan if you still have doubts.
   23. Lassus Posted: January 31, 2014 at 08:39 PM (#4649644)
Wilpon's financial problems have been well documented.

And not particularly consequential to his ownership of the Mets.
   24. The Piehole of David Wells Posted: January 31, 2014 at 09:33 PM (#4649662)
And not particularly consequential to his ownership of the Mets.


At the very least, it has imposed constraints on their ability to field a decent team. Since this crap became public, the Wilpons don't seem really to be in charge, do they? Alderson is at the helm. Very reminiscent of the Dodgers, but the difference here is that they didn't fight it. And that may be the only reason the Wilpons are still the owners of the Mets.
   25. Srul Itza Posted: January 31, 2014 at 09:59 PM (#4649671)
At the very least, it has imposed constraints on their ability to field a decent team.


Not nearly as big as the restraints imposed by their incompetence.
   26. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: January 31, 2014 at 10:14 PM (#4649674)
Sigh...We're gonna be stuck with these clowns until we die, aren't we...?

I'll trade you Ruben Amaro, Jr. for the Wilpons.

See, you hesitated, didn't you?
   27. Arbitol Dijaler Posted: January 31, 2014 at 10:16 PM (#4649676)
An article today on Mets Merized has me thinking that maybe trying Flores at short is not that crazy -- when you consider that the alternative is Ruben Tejada.

Tejada has never rated as a better than average defender and his offense is very suspect at this point. Flores will be significantly below average on defense, but how bad? 10 runs or 30? Because he'll almost certainly be quite a few runs better than Tejada on offense, and this way he can get his ABs in the majors.

A lot of players in an uncomfortable defensive position might take it to the plate with them and struggle -- but Flores has spent most of his minor league career as a poor defensive shortstop. It hasn't stopped him from developing, and he's got an excellent hit tool; strikes out very little; and has a decent amount of power.

This may be more about how underwhelming Tejada is, but given the options I'd be tempted to stick Flores out there too.
   28. Rough Carrigan Posted: January 31, 2014 at 11:10 PM (#4649683)
Is there any provision in the CBA for allowing a franchise to deduct the Vig from its revenue sharing?
   29. Lassus Posted: January 31, 2014 at 11:47 PM (#4649692)
Tejada has never rated as a better than average defender and his offense is very suspect at this point.

I don't know how you can watch him and think the former is true (he is smallish, so range, perhaps, but barely), but I'm admittedly a big skeptic on statistical defensive ratings.

Sadly, you are spot on that his brief flirtation with batting competence was very brief, and he's obviously annoyed everyone in the front office.

While I'm of the opinion also that Tejada seems not to be the answer at short, I do think you underestimate how bad and the cost is from Flores' defense in that important a spot on the field, though. He's certainly good, but he's not GREAT with the bat, so it seems like a poor decision to risk that kind of fielding problem, I guess.
   30. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 31, 2014 at 11:50 PM (#4649693)
I know Tejada has his flaws but can we remember one thing about him: He put up about 3.5 WAR in 210 games in 2011-2012 at a pretty young age. His 2013 season wasn't great but I don't think it's the worst idea in the world to stick him out there. He is entering his age 24 season, he has a career .323 OBP, and has the ability to play a good shortstop. He's not an all-star but he can be a cheap regular for the next few years.

The idea of playing Flores at short intrigues me but wasn't he more than just a bad SS in the minors. I remember reports saying he was awful and he doesn't look like he has a shortstop's body.

Et tu, Lassus?
   31. JJ1986 Posted: February 01, 2014 at 12:11 AM (#4649698)
I think the impact of having a bad defensive shortstop is more than just -10 or -15 runs a year. The Mets are trying to develop a bunch of young pitchers and would be a bad idea to stick them with very subpar defenders in the middle infield.
   32. Lassus Posted: February 01, 2014 at 12:54 AM (#4649712)
Et tu, Lassus?

I know! But it seems difficult and depressing to constantly combat the front office on this player from over here. They simply hate Tejada, and the chances of him being allowed him to develop with the Mets now seems nil.
   33. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: February 01, 2014 at 01:39 AM (#4649718)
I'd like to float an idea. Next season is going to be the tenth that I've followed the Mets while being on this board. That's a long time to have been "talking" to guys without actually haven't met them in person. I'd like to go to a game at Citifield some during this season and would like to make it a group outing. Would that interest anyone else?
   34. depletion Posted: February 01, 2014 at 04:51 AM (#4649727)
I'd prefer they platoon Flores and Davis at first, at least until one greatly exceeds the performance of the other. Davis has never hit lefties. Flores played first a bit in the minors. Murphy is a decent option at 2nd, Flores is probably not a good option at SS. I fear a Gregg Jefferies-type jerk around with Flores - shifting his position every half season. For his "first" season, it might not be bad to platoon him for a while until he shows what he can do.
   35. formerly dp Posted: February 01, 2014 at 10:24 AM (#4649753)
I guess I don't see the issue with giving Flores a look at SS in spring training. The Mets don't have a ton of options there, and if Flores looks that bad, they can just scrap the plan without it costing them very much. I didn't think Murphy would be able to handle 2B passably, and that's worked out well. This seems like even less of a stretch.

I do agree about Tejada being deserving on track record alone. But the FO has pretty consistently questioned his work ethic, concentration, etc, and it's clear they're trying to do everything possible to avoid just calling him the main man at SS and being done with it. That may be a motivational strategy, or it may reflect a legitimate concern, or it might be that they just hate him without much justification. Whatever the case, I'm not sure it's going to hurt the team by giving Flores half a month to show what he can do at short-- if nothing else, it could open the door for an offense/defense platoon there, similar to the HoJo/Elster rotation they used BITD.
   36. GregD Posted: February 01, 2014 at 11:36 AM (#4649767)
I'd like to float an idea. Next season is going to be the tenth that I've followed the Mets while being on this board. That's a long time to have been "talking" to guys without actually haven't met them in person. I'd like to go to a game at Citifield some during this season and would like to make it a group outing. Would that interest anyone else?
I'm not one of the Mets guys on the board but live in NYC and would totally do this. (I'm not anti-Mets or pro-Yankees, just grew up elsewhere.)
   37. JE (Jason) Posted: February 01, 2014 at 12:16 PM (#4649790)
I'd like to float an idea. Next season is going to be the tenth that I've followed the Mets while being on this board. That's a long time to have been "talking" to guys without actually haven't met them in person. I'd like to go to a game at Citifield some during this season and would like to make it a group outing. Would that interest anyone else?

Additionally, you ought to try attending the next Primate softball game in Central Park.
   38. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: February 01, 2014 at 01:50 PM (#4649820)
I'm not one of the Mets guys on the board but live in NYC and would totally do this. (I'm not anti-Mets or pro-Yankees, just grew up elsewhere.)

I'm a Yankee fan, but I'd show if I could make it.

Additionally, you ought to try attending the next Primate softball game in Central Park.

Concur. Tons of fun.
   39. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: February 01, 2014 at 02:26 PM (#4649831)
When's the next game at Central Park?
   40. bobm Posted: February 01, 2014 at 02:29 PM (#4649832)
I don't know that the Mets are suited to a HoJo/Elster hit/field platoon at SS.

In 2013, 166 MLB pitchers had min 80 IP and ground balls accounted for a range of 21-45% of batters faced. By comparison:

Mets:

                                                         
Rk   I         Player        Split Year  G  BF BFtot    %
1      Jonathon Niese Ground Balls 2013 24 234   621 37.7
2       Jeremy Hefner Ground Balls 2013 24 185   556 33.3
3          Dillon Gee Ground Balls 2013 32 273   841 32.5
4         Matt Harvey Ground Balls 2013 26 220   690 31.9
5       Carlos Torres Ground Balls 2013 31 110   352 31.3
6        Zack Wheeler Ground Balls 2013 17 131   431 30.4



A's:

                                                       
Rk   I        Player        Split Year  G  BF BFtot    %
1      Bartolo Colon Ground Balls 2013 30 261   769 33.9
2      Jarrod Parker Ground Balls 2013 32 252   818 30.8
3        Dan Straily Ground Balls 2013 27 169   640 26.4
4       Tommy Milone Ground Balls 2013 27 175   667 26.2
5       A.J. Griffin Ground Balls 2013 32 187   823 22.7
   41. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: February 01, 2014 at 02:35 PM (#4649835)
When's the next game at Central Park?

Shooty usually schedules something for August.
   42. TerpNats Posted: February 01, 2014 at 02:35 PM (#4649837)
Perhaps I should come up to CitiField when the Nats open the season there March 31. Haven't been in NYC in nearly a decade.
   43. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: February 01, 2014 at 03:09 PM (#4649847)
Shooty usually schedules something for August.

12 or 16?
   44. PreservedFish Posted: February 01, 2014 at 03:28 PM (#4649852)
I think Flores will be a joke at shortstop. If he actually plays there in April, by July he won't be playing there anymore. I think it's likely that he's on his way to being a 220 pound corner player.
   45. billyshears Posted: February 01, 2014 at 05:43 PM (#4649897)
I'm up for a CitiField outing.
   46. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: February 01, 2014 at 07:03 PM (#4649921)
12 or 16?

I don't know what that means?
   47. SOLockwood Posted: February 01, 2014 at 08:53 PM (#4649945)
12 or 16?

I don't know what that means?


Size of the softball. Standard 12 inch softball where gloves are used, or "Chicago-style" 16 inch softball which is usually played barehanded.
   48. JE (Jason) Posted: February 01, 2014 at 09:01 PM (#4649949)
Size of the softball. Standard 12 inch softball where gloves are used, or "Chicago-style" 16 inch softball which is usually played barehanded.

New Yorkers aren't barbarians, Lockwood. We use 12" Clinchers.
   49. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: February 01, 2014 at 09:18 PM (#4649954)
Tejada has never rated as a better than average defender...


FWIW, this isn't technically true - UZR has him as a slightly-above-average SS defender. That's a little over 2,000 career innings across four seasons, so the sample's large enough to be at least moderately useful.
   50. Arbitol Dijaler Posted: February 01, 2014 at 10:53 PM (#4649979)
That is really splitting hairs -- UZR has him at +0.8/150 for his career. You'd have to really trust the precision of that particular system to disagree on that basis.
   51. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: February 01, 2014 at 11:18 PM (#4649986)
I think it's fair to say he's right around an average SS defender, give or take. That could mean a difference of 15-20 runs' worth of defense between him and Flores, and Flores would need to hit very well indeed to make up for a gap of that size.

I guess there's no harm in trying (except for the opportunity cost of not bringing in someone else), but on the whole I think you'd be better off sucking it up and either turning to Flores or getting a solid defender with a limp bat to help prop up the pitching.
   52. PreservedFish Posted: February 01, 2014 at 11:41 PM (#4649991)
The problem is that even if Flores is able to just barely able to play at shortstop, he probably has no future at the position. People have been projecting him to slow down and fatten up Miguel Cabrera style since he was 16 years old. Eeking out a few dozens game of Flores at shortstop this year wouldn't seem to accomplish much.
   53. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: February 02, 2014 at 01:35 AM (#4650015)
The problem from the other direction is that if he's not at SS, Flores doesn't have a spot to play regularly for the Mets unless the team goes through a pretty dramatic roster reconfiguration. Wright and Murphy figure to be the 3B and 2B for the foreseeable future, and I don't get the impression that it's likely that Flores' bat will be useful at 1B or a corner OF spot, beyond possibly being the RH half of a platoon. I like the idea of pushing him as far along the defensive spectrum as possible and seeing if he can handle it. The upside is pretty high and the downside is nearly non-existent, given the Mets' outlook for '14. It's pretty much exactly how I felt about the Murphy at second experiment.

All that said, unless Flores demonstrates a very strong command of the strike zone in spring training, I'd be looking to keep him in AAA for at least the first few months of '14. The guy's walk rate has never been more than barely adequate at any professional level, and his offensive projections for '14 are not inspiring if he can't play an up-the-middle position competently.
   54. Arbitol Dijaler Posted: February 02, 2014 at 09:50 AM (#4650031)
A couple of articles today about Wilmer's offseason conditioning program (joined by Lagares, Duda, and Tejada). He looks very fit. I'm surprised to see that it looks like the source of his slowness is small calves.
   55. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: February 02, 2014 at 10:48 AM (#4650039)
I think it's fair to say he's right around an average SS defender, give or take. That could mean a difference of 15-20 runs' worth of defense between him and Flores, and Flores would need to hit very well indeed to make up for a gap of that size.

Given that Flores couldn't hack SS in miLB, I'd think -30 or worse is in the realm of possible outcomes.
   56. Lassus Posted: February 02, 2014 at 11:15 AM (#4650044)
I have no problem if it is the case, but am I actually the only one, from a scouting/eyes perspective, who found Tejada better, defensively, than passable/average?
   57. formerly dp Posted: February 02, 2014 at 11:19 AM (#4650045)
Given that Flores couldn't hack SS in miLB, I'd think -30 or worse is in the realm of possible outcomes.
I know the "he's young" isn't a catchall response, but it seems to fit pretty well here-- he's young, he's handled SS in the past, and IIRC the team's reasoning at the time they pushed him off SS was that he would eventually need to be moved, and they viewed him as a potential replacement for Wright before the latter signed his extension. If the pitchers start moaning because he's turning outs into hits too often, then scrap the experiment and send Ruben back out there.
   58. formerly dp Posted: February 02, 2014 at 11:20 AM (#4650046)
but am I actually the only one, from a scouting/eyes perspective, who found Tejada better, defensively, than passable/average?
Up until last year, yes. Last season, he seemed to be making a lot of thoughtless mistakes. Again, if we're just going on subjective knowledge, that's what stuck with me from 2013.
   59. PreservedFish Posted: February 02, 2014 at 11:47 AM (#4650058)
Tejada always seemed comfortably average to me. Not much of an athlete, but solid.
   60. JJ1986 Posted: February 02, 2014 at 11:50 AM (#4650060)
Tejada seemed slightly above average to me, but I think the SS position has much better defenders as a whole than it did 5-10 years ago, so he might be below average by today's standard.
   61. Lassus Posted: February 02, 2014 at 01:26 PM (#4650085)
Fair enough. I really feel like PF's #59 is an undersell, and even confusing, to me, watching him the last few years. But I can see dp's criticism as valid as far as mental mistakes have been going. It's interesting.
   62. formerly dp Posted: February 02, 2014 at 02:32 PM (#4650100)
All of my B-Pros are packed (moving!), but when he was coming up, I remember Tejada being regarded as having an excellent glove-- one capable over carrying a weak bat. I don't think people say that about him, from a scouting perspective, anymore.
   63. PreservedFish Posted: February 02, 2014 at 04:03 PM (#4650121)
#62 - I don't remember that being the case. Actually, prospect hounds didn't talk about Tejada much at all. He was always on the radar of the BTF Mets fans because of his OBP skills in the low minors at such a young age, but he was never a prospect that attracted much commentary. He might have actually moved through the system too quickly for half of the writers to even see him.

I just took a stroll through the BTF archives to find old comments that I or anyone else had made about his defense. There was one comment comparing his ranking to that of Alcides Escobar. Escobar was ranked an entire letter grade ahead (by John Sickels), and the difference between them was apparently their defensive abilities.

(I also found the thread where we learned that Minaya had declined a trade for Roy Halladay - the package was something like FMartinez, Mejia, Flores & Holt. Always amusing to look back at these things - in that thread Sam said that he would never trade Fernando for Halladay, but that a package something like Niese and Parnell would be acceptable.)

I did find a comment of my own from opening day, 2012, where I say basically the same thing I said above:

143. PreservedFish Posted: April 05, 2012 at 01:49 PM (#4098300)

Does Reyes get that ball? Tejada seems steady but I don't think he's the rangiest of shortstops.
   64. JE (Jason) Posted: February 02, 2014 at 06:00 PM (#4650161)
Tejada always seemed comfortably average to me. Not much of an athlete, but solid.

Disagree.
   65. Lassus Posted: February 02, 2014 at 06:56 PM (#4650174)
Yeah, that's what I remember about Tejada. I just can't figure out the level of "meh" everyone has about him.
   66. depletion Posted: February 02, 2014 at 07:14 PM (#4650180)
Wright and Murphy figure to be the 3B and 2B for the foreseeable future, and I don't get the impression that it's likely that Flores' bat will be useful at 1B or a corner OF spot, beyond possibly being the RH half of a platoon.

His bat is useful at 1B right now. Remember Davis's breakout 2011 season when he got hurt when is OPS was .925? His OPS against lefties that year: .493. Davis's career OPS against LHP: .602. In two years Murphy will be eligible for free agency. By that time they will, hopefully, have seen what Flores can do as a backup 2nd baseman. I think they should trade Lucas Duda for a bag of dounts, try to keep Satin in AAA as a backup and play Ike/Wilmer to get Wilmer's feet wet and see how far he can go. He's got nothing left to prove in AAA.
   67. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: February 03, 2014 at 01:54 AM (#4650584)
His bat is useful at 1B right now

This is debatable. His offensive projections are not very good. He'd obviously be an upgrade at 1B against LHPs relative to Davis, but I think Satin is the better option for 2014, if not the longer term plan. That said...

I think they should trade Lucas Duda for a bag of dounts, try to keep Satin in AAA as a backup and play Ike/Wilmer to get Wilmer's feet wet and see how far he can go. He's got nothing left to prove in AAA.

He could still stand to prove that he could take a walk, but if they want to do it so that Flores is the 1B against lefties and splits time with Tejada at short against righties, I wouldn't complain. Really any plan that has Ike sitting on the bench against LHPs and Flores getting 3-4 PAs most days is fine with me. Satin's not someone to let get in the way of what they think is the best plan for one of their few near-ready bats with potential. I definitely wouldn't keep Flores on the active roster if it's just to get 1/3 of the starts at 1B and occasional starts to rest the other corner players.

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