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Tuesday, May 22, 2018

Mets “Showing Interest” In Jose Bautista

The Mets are “showing interest” in veteran slugger Jose Bautista, according to Mike Puma of the New York Post (via Twitter). The 37-year-old is back on the open market after being released by the Braves over the weekend.

It is not clear at this point how the Mets would envision utilizing Bautista, if a deal comes together. The veteran had lined up at third base for Atlanta, though there won’t be an opening at the hot corner in New York once Todd Frazier returns from the DL. Bautista would potentially represent a right-handed-hitting corner outfield option while Yoenis Cespedes is on the shelf.

Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: May 22, 2018 at 03:07 PM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Stormy JE Posted: May 22, 2018 at 03:21 PM (#5677437)
Does Peter Alonso possess an outfielder's glove?
   2. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: May 22, 2018 at 03:25 PM (#5677443)
Why?
   3. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: May 22, 2018 at 03:26 PM (#5677444)
Does Peter Alonso possess an outfielder's glove?


Or Jeff McNeil
   4. formerly dp Posted: May 22, 2018 at 03:39 PM (#5677455)
I don't hate this idea, if it pushes Bruce to the bench against LHP. But Bautista is not very good in the field. As a short-term patch until Cespedes comes back, this doesn't make much sense, unless his injury is worse than they're letting on. The loss of Lagares stings--between he and d'Arnaud, that's two useful pieces they've lost for the season, without much by way of capable replacements in line (though it's nice to see Mesoraco hitting decently).
   5. Lassus Posted: May 22, 2018 at 03:42 PM (#5677459)
Between Bautista and random AAA/AA lightning bolts/lottery tickets, I'll take the latter. FFS, I'd probably take Tebow over Bautista.
   6. formerly dp Posted: May 22, 2018 at 04:02 PM (#5677492)
Between Bautista and random AAA/AA lightning bolts/lottery tickets, I'll take the latter. FFS, I'd probably take Tebow over Bautista.
Eh...I understand the sentiment, but Bautista could be decent. Tebow...surprised that he's hitting so "well" (.240/.324/.405 at AA). The problem with these types of scenarios is that you can't just grab a random AAA/AA lottery ticket--you've got to talk about a specific dude they can get for free right now. Den Dekker's hitting at Vegas, but he bats lefty. I want no part of the Ty Kelly Experience (career .279/.380/.386 in the minors). They played Dom Smith in RF over the weekend, if that gives you a sense of their desperation...
   7. Adam Starblind Posted: May 22, 2018 at 05:03 PM (#5677548)
Does Peter Alonso possess an outfielder's glove?


I doubt it. He's pretty big and lumbering.
   8. Walt Davis Posted: May 22, 2018 at 05:10 PM (#5677556)
I'd missed the release announcement. It was only 60 innings but b-r put him on a -35 to -40 pace at 3B which is not surprising given his age and years away from the position. It was the 63 OPS+ bat and 30% K-rate that brought the experiment to a quick end. Bautista looks toastier than toast. One of the all-time great late bloomers seems to have still fallen to the late bloomers' curse.
   9. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: May 22, 2018 at 05:15 PM (#5677558)
The reports I've read on Alonso are that he's barely a first baseman, so I can't imagine he'd be a non-disaster in the outfield.

That said, I doubt Bautista would be a non-disaster in the outfield at this point either, and Alonso is probably a better hitter.
   10. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 22, 2018 at 05:20 PM (#5677561)
One of the all-time great late bloomers seems to have still fallen to the late bloomers' curse.


He turns 38 in a couple of months. He's older than Mike Napoli and Adrian Gonzalez. There's no "curse" in being toast at his age.
   11. formerly dp Posted: May 22, 2018 at 06:26 PM (#5677610)
Deal is done. Evans sent down, so he'll be on the roster immediately.
   12. Adam Starblind Posted: May 22, 2018 at 07:01 PM (#5677636)
And Roughned Odor beat him in a fight.
   13. formerly dp Posted: May 22, 2018 at 07:50 PM (#5677660)
Well, he's got a double left in him, at least.

I've got a huge soft spot for him from his time as a Jay--pulling for him to succeed, even if it's not very likely he will.
   14. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 22, 2018 at 07:51 PM (#5677661)
Double in his first at-bat!
   15. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 22, 2018 at 07:53 PM (#5677662)
And Roughned Odor beat him in a fight.

He landed the first sucker punch, but Bautista didn't go down, so you can say what you want.

"Better to get punched in May than knocked out in October" was the best sign in the crowd as Odor threw the ball away allowed the Jays to win their 6th playoff game in a row against the Rangers and finish the sweep.

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   16. JJ1986 Posted: May 22, 2018 at 08:25 PM (#5677681)
I guess Yoenis is out for a long time.
   17. formerly dp Posted: May 22, 2018 at 08:33 PM (#5677692)
Yeah that's my guess too. There's no real spot for Bautista with Cespedes back.

Speaking of done: when we can plays, Reyes is just killing this team in the field and with the bat.
   18. Sweatpants Posted: May 22, 2018 at 08:36 PM (#5677696)
He turns 38 in a couple of months. He's older than Mike Napoli and Adrian Gonzalez. There's no "curse" in being toast at his age.
He's older than Grady Sizemore, Reggie Willits, Chad Billingsley, Dontrelle Willis, Wilson Betemit, Hank Blalock, Rocco Baldelli, Chad Cordero, and Rich Harden. He's older than Oscar Viillarreal, Elijah Dukes, Daniel Cabrera, and Noah Lowry, all of whom were out of the majors before Bautista's breakout season. He's younger than but was born in the same year as Mark Prior, Chien-Ming Wang, Chris Burke, Kaz Tadano, and Dewon Brazelton.
   19. Adam Starblind Posted: May 22, 2018 at 09:00 PM (#5677715)
He landed the first sucker punch


That wasn't a sucker punch. They were toe to toe.
   20. Walt Davis Posted: May 23, 2018 at 03:27 AM (#5677899)
Agree, there's nothing wrong in turning to toast at age 36 ... but 4.8 WAR to 1.1 to -1.7 is a classic late bloomer's cliff dive.

In the expansion era, there have been 26 non-Bautista guys who put up 14-18 WAR from ages 32-34 (Bautista 16). For ages 35-37, 14 of them put up 8+ WAR. Those guys were nearly all good young too and are in the HoF, would be in the HoF if they hadn't been naughty, probably should be in the HoF (Whitaker, Walker) or are Tony Phillips (a late-bloomer) or Elston Howard. You then get a group of 7 with 3-7 WAR which includes 3 HoFers and a naughty guy. But that 3 WAR guy was Davey Lopes who, because he's Davey Lopes, put up 9 WAR/3.7 WAA from ages 38-42. Then you've got a couple of active guys.

Then it's Bando and Buford at 0 WAR. Then it's Wynn and Bautista at -1 WAR. Of the 24 non-active players, 19 were at least average for those years (0+ WAA) and one of the below-average guys was Lopes. Bautista for 35-37 has put up -5 WAA; next closest from this list is Bando at -2.8.

So actually, for a guy as good as Bautista was for ages 32-34, it is not common to be done at 36-37 and, in part due to playing time, he may have had the worst drop of any. That is the late bloomer's curse. (It is of course not exclusive to late bloomers nor universal among them.)
   21. Rusty Priske Posted: May 23, 2018 at 09:23 AM (#5677947)

That wasn't a sucker punch. They were toe to toe.


Of course it was a sucker punch. Nobody in that situation could have expected Odor to be so pathetic as to throw a punch there. Punching someone who has no reason to expect a punch is coming is absolutely a sucker punch.

   22. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 23, 2018 at 10:36 AM (#5678005)
Of course it was a sucker punch. Nobody in that situation could have expected Odor to be so pathetic as to throw a punch there. Punching someone who has no reason to expect a punch is coming is absolutely a sucker punch.

What? He wiped the guy out with a slide. They start walking towards each other. Odor pushes him back. And then the punch comes. Bautista was actually pulling back his hand to punch as Odor hits him.

Any body should expect a punch in that situation. Bautista clearly did, because he was trying to throw his own punch. Odor was just faster.

That was mutual combat. No liability attaches to either.

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