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Mets’ Tim Tebow sent to minor league camp, politely declines swing advice from Jose Canseco - CBSSports.com

“I appreciate it, anybody wanting to work with me is humbling, he’s a great one at it. But we have a lot of great coaches here,” said Tebow to reporters, including Tim Healey of Newsday, when asked about Canseco’s offer Tuesday. He expertly defused the situation. Well done.

Jim Furtado Posted: March 12, 2019 at 11:46 AM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: jose canseco, mets, tim tebow

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   1. SoSH U at work Posted: March 12, 2019 at 12:40 PM (#5822089)
This headline looks much different when it's not in the Newstand box.

   2. JAHV Posted: March 12, 2019 at 12:44 PM (#5822094)
This headline looks much different when it's not in the Newstand box.


Yeah, I clicked on this for the same reason. I didn't think "politely declin[ing]" an assignment to minor league camp would really work, even for Tim Tebow.

"Tim, we're sending you to minor league camp."

"I appreciate your request, but I'd prefer to stay in major league camp. Thank you for thinking of me, though!"

"No, Tim, that's not really how this works. It's not a request. You're being assigned to the minor league camp. You have to report there."

"That's really sweet of you, but I'm good here, thanks. You have a nice day!"
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 12, 2019 at 01:40 PM (#5822115)
Probably to game his service time. Ridiculous!
   4. Swoboda is freedom Posted: March 12, 2019 at 03:46 PM (#5822193)
Tebow doing his Bartleby act. I would prefer not to.
   5. My name is RMc and I feel extremely affected Posted: March 12, 2019 at 03:58 PM (#5822194)
In other news, Lucifer is offering to help Tebow get to Heaven.

If Shaq Thompson is a zero, Mike Trout is a 10 and a legit major-leaguer is a 7 (bell curve), then Tebow has gone from roughly 1.5 to 5.5 in two years. Impressive.
   6. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 12, 2019 at 04:01 PM (#5822197)
I can't think of any player who would find Jose Canseco's advice on swinging less useful than Tebow.
   7. Banta Posted: March 12, 2019 at 04:15 PM (#5822200)
If Tebow improves as much as he did last year this year, he'll be in the Majors by September. It's a lot more realistic than anyone would have thought two years ago. Good for him.
   8. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: March 12, 2019 at 04:37 PM (#5822207)
Hmmmm… he had a strong batting average (.273) but that's on a .360 BABIP and he's striking out in 34.6% of his plate appearances. If he's going to be successful as a high strikeout guy then it's going to be through growing his power - which seems possible given his natural strength. I think a Jose Canseco type might be the kind of guy with useful advice for Tebow. OTOH: Jose Canseco.
   9. Spahn Insane Posted: March 12, 2019 at 04:48 PM (#5822211)
If I were the Mets, I'd be more worried about his taking Canseco's pitching advice.
   10. Spahn Insane Posted: March 12, 2019 at 04:50 PM (#5822213)
If Tebow improves as much as he did last year

When, after said massive improvement, he was still a 31-year-old who struck out over 100 times in less than 300 PAs in AA ball.

Tebow might *make* the majors at some point, but color me beyond skeptical he'll ever be a useful major leaguer.

Edit: Partial Coke to Pops

   11. Spahn Insane Posted: March 12, 2019 at 04:55 PM (#5822214)
If he's going to be successful as a high strikeout guy then it's going to be through growing his power - which seems possible given his natural strength.

In which case, color me equally unimpressed with a .126 ISO in AA.
   12. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: March 12, 2019 at 05:07 PM (#5822217)
Probably to game his service time. Ridiculous!
It's fun -- if Tebow manages to get called up around midseason and then somehow sticks, he'd be under team control until after his 38th birthday. He probably shouldn't expect a Bryce Harper-type contract in his future.
   13. caspian88 Posted: March 12, 2019 at 06:19 PM (#5822236)
Tebow looks like a guy who is just good enough that you can justify him appearing on the major league roster as a bench player/September callup/emergency replacement, at least if you squint hard enough.

He needs to be that good in order to get a shot, because otherwise his appearance would be considered a joke and a travesty, but if he is good enough, or at least has enough going for him that you can make that case publicly, even if it's really a bad case ("he was hitting .265 with pop in AAA"), then he's going to get that shot because the difference in on-field value between him and someone else is small enough that the off-field benefits of Tim Tebow on the major league roster justify his callup.

The odds that he ever becomes a starter are pretty much zero, but I think the odds that he gets a shot are pretty close to guaranteed.
   14. michaelplank has knowledgeable eyes Posted: March 12, 2019 at 07:35 PM (#5822251)
Not really a fan of Tebow's, but that is a great, great response, provided you're intent on taking the high road.
   15. Walt Davis Posted: March 12, 2019 at 07:38 PM (#5822253)
FWIW, Tebow doesn't appear anywhere on the Mets' depth chart at fangraphs, and it goes 22 batters deep. A few of those guys are aging vet types who will probably go elsewhere if they don't make the opening day roster but still, that's a lot of injuries before he's on the radar. But it's the Mets so I assume they'll be down to a starting OF of Carlos Gomez, Rajai Davis and Devin Mesoraco by April 24th and Tebow just might be 4th OF.

Not that I would expect ZiPS or any projection system to know what to do with a guy like Tebow (and I wonder if Dan was having a bit of fun) but he's projected to be the worst Mets player he made a projection for at a line of 174/231/279, -3.1 WAR in 333 PA and a top comp of Colin Porter (I was expecting something funny here but he's a guy with 68 ML PAs at ages 27-28).

In fact, at -3.1 WAR, he's the worst position player in all of ZiPS. Eric Jagielo is next at -2.3 WAR. He's a AA Marlins guy, 27 years old, hit 198/265/331 at AA last year. It's the Marlins so I'm not ruling him out of a ML debut this year either.
   16. The Mighty Quintana Posted: March 12, 2019 at 07:44 PM (#5822255)
A guy with a similar build of the same era was Toby Gerhart of Stanford/Vikings fame. I would've really liked to have seen him try baseball. He had terrific speed and had a nice, short, compact swing a la Trout. Also had a pretty accurate throwing arm (might've profiled better to left field). With Tebow, I just don't see the power coming, even if he is built like Adonis.
   17. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: March 12, 2019 at 08:27 PM (#5822269)
If Tebow takes all of Canesco's advice, he'll be mashing 45 home runs a year in no time.
   18. My name is RMc and I feel extremely affected Posted: March 13, 2019 at 08:33 AM (#5822322)
In fact, at -3.1 WAR, (Tebow)'s the worst position player in all of ZiPS.

Trade for Chris Davis, then?
   19. Rally Posted: March 13, 2019 at 08:37 AM (#5822324)
If I were the Mets, I'd be more worried about his taking Canseco's pitching advice.


Not likely. If Tebow could throw, he'd still be in the NFL.

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