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Miami Marlins still waiting for Hanley Ramirez to accept move to third

He told me once, he told me twice.
I don’t take no executive’s advice.
Move it on over…

Ramirez clearly is having trouble accepting the position switch — Beinfest admitted “it may take a little bit of time for him to get comfortable” with the idea.

Asked if he is confident Ramirez wants to be with the Marlins next season, Beinfest said, “I’ll keep it internal. The one thing I know is he wants to win. He’s a very proud guy. We want him here.”

The Marlins have said repeatedly that they do not plan to trade Ramirez, though several teams (reportedly including the Red Sox) have inquired.

But asked if Ramirez has made it clear to the organization that he would accept a move to third, Beinfest said, “The conversations we’ve had, we’re going to keep between us. But there’s been quite a bit of communication. He’s excited about playing for Ozzie Guillen. Ozzie is excited to have him. Everyone reacts to change differently.

“Even though we communicated with him and let him know what our intentions were in terms of Jose, he was the shortstop for six years, a very good one. We’ve asked him to move to third. Sometimes it just takes a little time for things to sink in. I think he recognizes we’re a better team with Jose.”

Repoz Posted: December 17, 2011 at 02:50 PM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. Textbook Editor Posted: December 17, 2011 at 04:26 PM (#4018384)

I'm trying to imagine what a Red Sox offer would consist of.

2. Slivers of Maranville (SdeB) Posted: December 17, 2011 at 04:39 PM (#4018393)

I'm trying to imagine what a Red Sox offer would consist of.

Josh Beckett, Mike Lowell and Guillermo Mota?

3. Lassus Posted: December 17, 2011 at 04:45 PM (#4018400)

BRING ME MY LAWN CHAIR AND POPCORN.

4. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: December 17, 2011 at 04:56 PM (#4018407)

Seems to me the lineup card could be a useful tool in manager/player communications.

5. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: December 17, 2011 at 05:27 PM (#4018420)

Given his attitude, his lousy D at short, and his lousy year at the plate, his value is probably less than what the Marlins want for him. He ain't going anywhere unless the Marlins are willing to take a lot less than they want for him.

6. Wilhelm's Floating Lebenswelt Posted: December 17, 2011 at 06:11 PM (#4018449)

I don't have particular sympathy for Hanley's plight, but, jeez, this appears a counter-productive approach to constructing a smooth seduction to a new position or the boosting of a trade card; it's aggressively alienating without much exposed logic for anycb. plan. Don't get it at all.

7. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 17, 2011 at 06:17 PM (#4018455)

I don't think there's anything for the Marlins to do but write his name into the lineup playing 3B and batting third.

Sure, have one respectful conversation where you say all the right things. "You're our best hitter. You're very valuable" etc. But you end with, "This is best for the team, and that's what matters."

Then you just stick to your guns, and eventually he'll accept it.

8. Bob Dernier Cri

Posted: December 17, 2011 at 06:26 PM (#4018462)

Play him motivational tapes of Michael Young being introduced at the World Series :)

9. Misirlou's got a busy day, he's wearing a vest Posted: December 17, 2011 at 06:34 PM (#4018465)

Sure, have one respectful conversation where you say all the right things. "You're our best hitter. You're very valuable" etc. But you end with, "This is best for the team, and that's what matters."

Then you just stick to your guns, and eventually he'll accept it.

So what does the Marlin's lineup look like?

Reyes
Infante?
Hanley
Stanton
Sanchez
Morrison
? CF
Buck
P

That's not a bad top 6.

10. Bitter Calculus Instructor Posted: December 17, 2011 at 06:37 PM (#4018469)

Soriano "refused" to move to the outfield as well when he got traded to Washington. But ended up moving. No play, no pay, simple as that.

11. Dale Sams Posted: December 17, 2011 at 07:04 PM (#4018480)

"Well, you're welcome to retire, and at the end of your 'contract', you can become a free agent and make less than what we were paying you. Or you can dog it and we'll suspend you without pay."

12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 17, 2011 at 07:25 PM (#4018488)

Bryan Petersen or Chris Coghlan are slated to play center.

13. Boxkutter Posted: December 17, 2011 at 07:44 PM (#4018497)

Reyes
Infante?
Hanley
Stanton
Sanchez
Morrison
? CF
Buck
P

Bryan Petersen or Chris Coghlan are slated to play center.

If Coghlan can start this coming season luckier than he did 2011, and stay healthy, I think he would be an ideal 2-hitter for them . I always thought that hitting him lead-off was a mistake. He is a contact hitter without a ton of power or speed. But he can hit double digit homers and steal 20 bases. Ideal 2-hitter.

14. Bob Evans Posted: December 18, 2011 at 05:46 AM (#4018785)

Or you can dog it and we'll suspend you without pay.

Ah, for the good old Muggsy McGraw days.

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