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Friday, March 17, 2017

Michael Pineda learned English the hard way

“The hardest thing for me is when the media uses big words because I don’t know those words,” Pineda says. “I didn’t understand the questions.”

It is not so much that Pineda could have saved himself—he repeatedly said he was trying to get a better grip—but he could have been less petrified and more nuanced in his defense. The press—which itself could have more Spanish speakers—is not faultless, either.

As for why and how the pine tar found its way to Pineda’s neck in the first place, well, others have their theories. Yankees GM Brian Cashman shares a tale, never heard before, of a teammate telling Pineda, between the first and second innings in the visitors clubhouse, that the pine tar wasn’t visible.

Manager Joe Girardi and pitching coach Larry Rothschild, meanwhile, assert the finer points of the pine-tar rule were fully communicated to Pineda after a hubbub in an earlier start, when he was spotted using the substance. But the Yankees wouldn’t clarify if the message was delivered in English or in Spanish….

“If he were an English-speaking player that wouldn’t have happened—1,000 percent,” Sabathia says. “Just for the fact, it is easy to say, ‘Don’t put that on your neck.’ Or, ‘If you need to get a grip, use this.’ It is hard to have a conversation about different things when the language barrier is there.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 17, 2017 at 03:33 PM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. cmd600 Posted: March 17, 2017 at 03:56 PM (#5419036)
It is not so much that Pineda could have saved himself—he repeatedly said he was trying to get a better grip—but he could have been less petrified and more nuanced in his defense. The press—which itself could have more Spanish speakers—is not faultless, either.



Whoa there Andrew, no need to put too much of the blame on yourself for your inability to communicate with someone.
   2. Adam Starblind Posted: March 17, 2017 at 09:17 PM (#5419157)
I thought the answer was going to be exercise videos in the TV section at Sears.
   3. RMc's Yelling Mob of Hackmen Posted: March 17, 2017 at 09:58 PM (#5419163)
This reminds me of Wayne Gretzky claiming that Jari Kurri learned English from watching "Happy Days" re-runs.
   4. Jose is El Absurd Pollo Posted: March 17, 2017 at 10:44 PM (#5419168)
My father learned English in large part watching the Three Stooges and westerns.
   5. Loren F. Posted: March 17, 2017 at 11:07 PM (#5419171)
My father learned English in large part watching the Three Stooges and westerns.


And your father learned that English is violent, formulaic and unfunny?
   6. PreservedFish Posted: March 17, 2017 at 11:18 PM (#5419172)
You hate the Three Stooges and westerns? Get out of my country.
   7. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: March 18, 2017 at 08:29 AM (#5419201)
Hit him in the face with a shovel! Hit him in the face with a shovel!
   8. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: March 18, 2017 at 10:30 AM (#5419220)
You hate the Three Stooges and westerns? Get out of my country.


Can I stay if I don't like the stooges, but love Westerns? Because I am not a fan of stooge humor or its ilk.
   9. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: March 18, 2017 at 10:33 AM (#5419222)
Hit him in the face with a shovel too!

Ok maybe a trowel.
   10. Lassus Posted: March 18, 2017 at 11:59 AM (#5419250)
You hate the Three Stooges and westerns? Get out of my country.

I hate the Three Stooges but I'm at least generally indifferent to westerns, if that helps.

I mean, watching re-runs of Harold Lloyd growing up just made the Stooges seem really unfunny. Maybe I was exposed to Chico and Harpo Marx too early, too.
   11. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 18, 2017 at 12:12 PM (#5419251)
I can take the Stooges in very small doses, but two minutes of Bob Hope or Red Skelton and I'm ready to head over to our local gun shop.
   12. Greg K Posted: March 18, 2017 at 12:18 PM (#5419254)
I grew up on Monty Python, which might be a tough way to learn English. Those guys tended to talk really fast.
   13. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 18, 2017 at 01:39 PM (#5419284)
Jose, have you had to break it to your dad that 'nyuk' isn't really a word?
   14. Jose is El Absurd Pollo Posted: March 18, 2017 at 03:04 PM (#5419312)
I tried telling him that but he poked me in the eyes.
   15. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: March 18, 2017 at 03:26 PM (#5419317)
Maybe I was exposed to Chico and Harpo Marx too early, too.


Probably not the best choices to learn English from either.
   16. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: March 18, 2017 at 05:06 PM (#5419336)
I grew up on Monty Python, which might be a tough way to learn English. Those guys tended to talk really fast.
Plus, they don't actually speak English, since they're foreigners. Except Terry Gilliam, I suppose.
   17. Greg K Posted: March 18, 2017 at 05:11 PM (#5419338)
Plus, they don't actually speak English, since they're foreigners. Except Terry Gilliam, I suppose.

If I had stuck to natives I'd mostly have just had Wayne & Shuster or SCTV.

I suppose kids have it easier these days with Kids in the Hall re-runs.
   18. Nasty Nate Posted: March 18, 2017 at 05:48 PM (#5419345)
I associate the stooges with baseball because they were on right before the sunday red sox game.
   19. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (((JE))) Posted: March 18, 2017 at 06:12 PM (#5419350)
There's even a funny video of Pineda practicing his English:
How are you, sir? I can speak English."
   20. Greg K Posted: March 19, 2017 at 06:26 AM (#5419475)
Hopefully he learns English better than this guy.

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