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Michael Pineda shut down with shoulder weakness

Yankees starting pitcher Michael Pineda has been shut down again due to weakness in his right shoulder, manager Joe Girardi told reporters Saturday (including Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com). Pineda was scheduled to throw two innings in an extended spring training game. Now he’s scheduled to see a Doctor Monday in Tampa.

“I can’t tell you when we’ll get him back now,” said Girardi.

Pineda, 23, was the Yankees’ big ticket acquisition this past offseason, as they traded promising young slugger Jesus Montero for him. But Pineda has been unable to get his shoulder into shape due to continuing “weakness” or “fatigue.

...A “somewhat significant” setback for Pineda, Girardi said.

Thanks to Butch.

Repoz Posted: April 21, 2012 at 02:15 PM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. Dock Ellis on Acid

Posted: April 21, 2012 at 02:21 PM (#4112227)

I hope this Doctor Monday knows what he's doing.

2. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 02:25 PM (#4112230)

Awesome #1...

3. Swedish Chef Posted: April 21, 2012 at 02:25 PM (#4112231)

I hope this Doctor Monday knows what he's doing.

Best voodoo doctor in Florida.

4. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 02:31 PM (#4112237)

Fire Cashman.

5. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: April 21, 2012 at 02:36 PM (#4112239)

Can't wait to see him pitch for the Yankees.

6. Blastin Posted: April 21, 2012 at 02:40 PM (#4112245)

Montero not doing great so far either, but at least he's healthy.

Even if we don't get him this year, though, 4 years of team control is a lot, plus Campos. I'm not bridge-jumping.

Also: Andy's coming! Yay!

7. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines Posted: April 21, 2012 at 02:43 PM (#4112249)

How will this affect his Hall of Fame chances?

8. Gamingboy Posted: April 21, 2012 at 02:56 PM (#4112258)

Jay Buhner! Why'd you trade Jay Buhner!?!!

9. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 02:57 PM (#4112260)

Yeah, Campos looks great so far, but he's in the Sallie league.

Montero is heating up a bit.

10. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 21, 2012 at 03:25 PM (#4112280)

Pineda looks like the new Britt Burns.

11. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: April 21, 2012 at 03:40 PM (#4112301)

Girlie man with the weak shoulder.

12. ptodd Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:01 PM (#4112323)

He probably has a labrum tear (SLAP lesion). Sometimes you can avoid surgery with rest, rehab and strengthening programs, but not always. Labrum tears are missed by MRI's 10%-50% of the time. (enhanced MRI's with dye give better results than straight MRI's results) .

Hughes had a shoulder cyst removed last year according to Pedro Gomez, and they are usually associated with labrum tears. Hughes is an example of being able to go the non-surgical route.

Probably 50% of pitchers have some kind of shoulder/elbow injury they pitch through before eventually needing surgery. Trading for pitchers or signing them as FA is a roll of the dice.

13. Dr. Vaux Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:14 PM (#4112335)

Trading for pitchers or signing them as FA is a roll of the dice

Yet you need pitchers on a baseball team, and the fact that they are a roll of the dice means that you can't rely on developing all of your own, either--to have enough, you have to both develop them amd bring them in from outside once they've shown success.

14. Bhaakon Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:28 PM (#4112401)

Isn't there something more specific than "shoulder weakness"? I mean, Barry Zito's had a weak shoulder for years now, and he's toughed it out.

15. Demitri Krotchliknioff Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:20 PM (#4112445)

Cashman has the golden touch, doesn't he? Jeff Weaver, Pavano, Igawa, Burnett, Contreras, Vazquez, Chan Ho Park, Feliciano, Marte, Gabe White, Felix Heredia, Neagle, and, now, Pineda.

16. RMc and His Roster of Rubbish Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:33 PM (#4112630)

I hope this Doctor Monday knows what he's doing.

She, actually...

17. LionoftheSenate (feels sorry for the Pirates) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4112636)

RE: Pineda. Can't wait til he's playing for the Yankees.

18. LionoftheSenate (feels sorry for the Pirates) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:36 PM (#4112640)

Probably 50% of pitchers have some kind of shoulder/elbow injury they pitch through before eventually needing surgery. Trading for pitchers or signing them as FA is a roll of the dice.

This implies drafting them isn't as much a roll of the dice. Hardly.

19. Best Regards, L.M. Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4112651)

Can't wait to see him pitch for the Yankees.

RDF.

20. Bhaakon Posted: April 21, 2012 at 09:25 PM (#4112719)

She, actually...

I see, so he just slept on it wrong.

21. Boxkutter Posted: April 22, 2012 at 02:15 AM (#4112831)

As a Seattle fan, trading away Campos was the part of the trade that annoyed me the most. I would have accepted (but probably not liked) the Motero for Pineda part. But the Campos for Noesi part I hated.

22. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: April 22, 2012 at 02:22 AM (#4112833)

As a Seattle fan, trading away Campos was the part of the trade that annoyed me the most. I would have accepted (but probably not liked) the Motero for Pineda part. But the Campos for Noesi part I hated.

Well, it turns out the Montero for Pineda part for you is working out swimmingly.

23. Walt Davis Posted: April 22, 2012 at 03:33 AM (#4112844)

Montero is heating up a bit.

Yep, slugging nearly as much as Ichiro!

24. drdr Posted: April 22, 2012 at 03:55 AM (#4112850)

#15
Yes, but looking at the names, everyone except Park and Igawa were sought after by other clubs and thought of as good/great move. Cashman really seems unlucky when it comes to pitchers.

25. Dr. Vaux Posted: April 22, 2012 at 04:24 AM (#4112857)

Cashman really seems unlucky when it comes to pitchers.

The fact that they built a bandbox stadium and have run some horrific defensive infields out there has something to do with it, too.

26. Demitri Krotchliknioff Posted: April 22, 2012 at 06:39 AM (#4112869)

The ballpark and the infield didn't hurt guys like Mussina and Sabathia - pitchers that my 8-year old could have signed with the Steinbrenner Family Checkbook.

27. NJ in NY Posted: April 22, 2012 at 09:32 AM (#4112894)

The fact that they built a bandbox stadium and have run some horrific defensive infields out there has something to do with it, too.

1. I wasn't aware that every ball in play was a grounder. That is interesting though, perhaps I have been watching baseball all wrong.

2. What is your definition of "horrific"?

28. Best Regards, L.M. Posted: April 22, 2012 at 03:20 PM (#4113104)

As a Seattle fan, trading away Campos was the part of the trade that annoyed me the most. I would have accepted (but probably not liked) the Motero for Pineda part. But the Campos for Noesi part I hated.

This is the thing about trading prospects -- if you keep a prospect, turning down a couple of trades for players who are pretty good, and he flames out you shrug and say "well, that happens". If you *trade* that prospect, you suddenly have big expectations of the guy you got -- even if the prospect you traded away flames out. For Yankees fans, Pineda had better be something special, and for Mariners fans, Montero had better be something special.

If the trade hadn't happened, I don't see Mariners fans being upset if Pineda flames out, or Yankees fans being upset about Montero flaming out. It's the "what might have been" that bugs you.

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