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Wednesday, July 11, 2012

Mike Schmidt: All-Star problems, but no easy solutions

Schmidt embarks on an unpredictable FU journey to attend his sports All-Star Game in Kansas City.

It’s all so confusing to us old folks. Back in May, Hamels drills Harper in the ribs for being a brash rookie who is famous for being famous. Harper was the kid who blew a kiss at a pitcher while rounding the bases on a home run. He was the most decorated rookie ever to enter the majors. So, Hamels drills him for being famous, Harper then steals home on Hamels, maybe the best payback ever. But he is not cocky or brash, but classy. I thought that was an “in your face” moment if ever there was one.

Now Harper is Hamels’ teammate, on the National League All-Star team, an eight-home run and 25-RBI All-Star, while at least five others with deserving stats won’t be. Fan voting at its finest. The perfect summation for all this confusion is to say, “It is what it is.” I love that line , it allows us to accept something without good reason.

Let’s face it, marketing dollars and television have become more important than competition and credibility at this game and every game, except golf. The All-Star game, in whatever form presented, will get major media attention, a significant national TV audience and have a profound effect on the Kansas City economy.

No matter who does the voting, who makes the roster or how memorable the competition, the game will be an event and it will satisfy sponsors. Maybe that’s all we should ask of it? Me, I’m just an old confused guy who remembers when it did both.

Repoz Posted: July 11, 2012 at 12:35 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Monty Posted: July 11, 2012 at 01:14 AM (#4179829)
Okay, I'll take the first swing.

Now Harper is Hamels’ teammate, on the National League All-Star team, an eight-home run and 25-RBI All-Star, while at least five others with deserving stats won’t be. Fan voting at its finest.


Fan voting?
   2. The District Attorney Posted: July 11, 2012 at 01:25 AM (#4179834)
Right, and we also have this.

Back then, the fans picked the game's starters. That's all, the starters.

Seems like the best-case scenario is that Smitty thinks Harper won the "Final Vote"... either that, or he has a basic misunderstanding of how the roster is chosen. One really hopes it's not the latter, given that:

About six years ago, I was asked to head a committee of Hall of Famers to study the All-Star game and report to the commissioner on ways to improve its competitiveness and the experience for the players.

PRO TIP: Do not trust any committee created by Bud Selig.

I also can't tell if Smitty is being sarcastic or not about Harper being "classy."
   3. PreservedFish Posted: July 11, 2012 at 01:55 AM (#4179844)
Let’s face it, marketing dollars and television have become more important than competition and credibility at this game and every game, except golf.


"except golf" seems like it might have some meme potential.
   4. PASTE Transcends Almost All Generations (Zeth) Posted: July 11, 2012 at 08:39 AM (#4179887)
I thought Schmidt's description of the Hamels-Harper episode was well put, and am pleasantly flabbergasted (there is such a thing, right?) to see a famous old player being reasonable about the veteran being the ####### towards a rookie, rather than the other way around.
   5. BDC Posted: July 11, 2012 at 09:48 AM (#4179941)
marketing dollars and television have become more important than competition and credibility at this game and every game, except golf


That's like saying "glitz and tourist dollars have become more important than acting talent and fine writing in this show and every Broadway show, except Mamma Mia."
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM (#4179957)
I'm sick of stat hounds like Mike Schmidt telling me Bryce Harper is not an All Star. Get outta your mother's basement and watch a game Nerdlinger!
   7. Martin Hemner Posted: July 11, 2012 at 10:10 AM (#4179960)
I thought Schmidt's description of the Hamels-Harper episode was well put, and am pleasantly flabbergasted (there is such a thing, right?) to see a famous old player being reasonable about the veteran being the ####### towards a rookie, rather than the other way around.

I agree, but how does it then follow then Harper is an undeserving All-Star? I'm not following Schmidt's line of reasoning here. I mean, you can make a case for others besides Harper, but his first paragraph seems to suggest that he thinks Harper plays the game the "right way", while his second suggests that he is overhyped.
   8. PASTE Transcends Almost All Generations (Zeth) Posted: July 11, 2012 at 10:24 AM (#4179971)
I think Schmidt just led with defending Harper in re: Hamels by way of saying "I have nothing against Bryce Harper, but..."
   9. TerpNats Posted: July 11, 2012 at 10:27 AM (#4179976)
I sense Schmitty's angle on Harper is that while he admires the way he plays and likes his potential, Bryce still is only 19 and, in a narrow definition of an All-Star, isn't there yet. A perfectly valid point. At the same time, Harper is one of the most talked-about players in MLB, someone fans want to see, so that has to be taken into account.
   10. Jose Remains The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: July 11, 2012 at 10:34 AM (#4179981)
Schmidt seems to be the "old timer" (and man does that make ME feel old) who is aging the most gracefully. He seems pretty even-keeled on the various issues of contention (steroids, money, "new school" vs. "Old school" etc...). When he says something I don't get a cranky old man sense from him but a sense of a guy who genuinely thinks about what he is saying.
   11. SoSH U at work Posted: July 11, 2012 at 10:40 AM (#4179991)
Schmidt seems to be the "old timer" (and man does that make ME feel old) who is aging the most gracefully. He seems pretty even-keeled on the various issues of contention (steroids, money, "new school" vs. "Old school" etc...). When he says something I don't get a cranky old man sense from him but a sense of a guy who genuinely thinks about what he is saying.


I sort of agree. I get the sense that Mike gives the questions some serious thought, but he's really not much of a thinker. He's just as likely to say something truly head scratching as insightful, often in the same interview.
   12. PASTE Transcends Almost All Generations (Zeth) Posted: July 11, 2012 at 11:28 AM (#4180050)
I really wish Dan Quisenberry were still around.
   13. JJ1986 Posted: July 11, 2012 at 11:35 AM (#4180054)
Schmidt really seems to think that the fans are picking all of the players or something. He contrasts Harper being picked with "Each manager really wants to pick a team he can win with, balanced and able to create the right matchups in late innings."
   14. dr. scott Posted: July 11, 2012 at 11:41 AM (#4180061)
If only the National League team had more competetive players they might have won. Clearly something needs to be done to fix that.
   15. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: July 11, 2012 at 06:16 PM (#4180521)
Is Schmidt saying the game yesterday didn't have "competition and credibility" because Harper was in it rather than Martin Prado or somebody? That seems overreactive and weird.
   16. PASTE Transcends Almost All Generations (Zeth) Posted: July 11, 2012 at 07:43 PM (#4180588)
Schmidt's writing is awkward and I'm not sure why he doesn't get better editing. It's the freakin' AP for crying out loud.

I still enjoy it, though. Hall of Famers that are reasonable about modern baseball are a rare sight.

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