“I sort of ride the fence on that whole steroid era issue,” Schmidt said. “I don’t have a definite opinion like some of my fellow Hall of Famers. Some of the guys were very, very adamant about a person being associated with steroids: ‘They’ll never be in the Hall of Fame. If they are, I’ll never come back.’ I’ve heard that from some of my fellow members, and I think that’s absolutely ridiculous.”
Schmidt, in camp until March 20 as a special instructor, said he is concerned about players such as Mike Piazza and Craig Biggio being “lumped in with guys who have a stronger relationship with the PED issue.”
“If a guy played and had great numbers in his generation, ask yourself if he was involved,” Schmidt said. “It’s just too bad. I think time will cure that. I really do think Biggio and Piazza will eventually become Hall of Famers.
“The guys who failed tests or the facts show or they admitted they were involved with PED use, that’s one thing. But to assume a guy did because his teammate did or he has a big neck or a big head or there was a spike in his numbers, to assume that is not right.”
...On Young: “Michael Young could retire tomorrow, and he would be a strong candidate for the Hall of Fame. He’s probably two Michael Young years away from being a first-ballot Hall of Famer. I don’t know what his career hitting numbers are, but he’s a little like Derek Jeter. Is he not? If he played in New York, imagine what people would be saying about Michael Young’s career. Somebody would have mentioned the Hall of Fame a long time ago.”
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1. eddieot Posted: February 22, 2013 at 07:29 AM (#4373779)I'd say compared to just about anyone I've seen or heard on the subject.
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he has an imaginary girlfriend?
yep
If you're telling me that Michael Young has been intimate with Jessica Biel then I am going to be really pissed off.
I know about Derek and Justin but she SWORE to me that was it.
And gift baskets.
I'd be amazed if he made it, even with 3,000 hits. Same with Adam Dunn if Dunn gets to 500 HRs (or 550, or maybe even 600). There are players who bring so little else to the table that even getting to the treasured milestones won't get them in.
That's Gold-Glove-winning shortstop Michael Young, thank you very much.
Man, that guy's been on durable mofo. Over 8000 PA in essentially 12 seasons. Over the last 11 seasons, he's averaged 156 games played.
If, by some miracle, Young had 5 more seasons like his 2008 (not a good season for him), he would finish with over 3100 hits, 1500 runs, nearly 1400 RBI and 11,500 PA. And, assuming he does not transform back into an average-ish SS, about 27 WAR. I think he might actually make it with those numbers.
As to Dunn ... Kingman. But, in theory, he could get to 600 HR by the end of his age 37 season. He could limp up to 650+. That's kinda fun to think about.
By the way, per b-r, Dunn has now had a distinctly below-average career. He's at -6 WAA. Since 2005, he's got 1.3 WAR. Even if you zeroed out his Rfield, he'd be average. We make fun of Juan Pierre for being better than him.
Wow--you're right about the RBIs. I wouldn't have guessed he might end up with that many.
Well, that's all the proof I need that Schmidt is the mystery "already a Hall of Famer" who used steroids. Assemble the mob and light the torches.
Putting aside the current PED voting controversy, I don't think the HoF is going to turn away members of the 3,000 hit club anytime soon, unless they reached 3,000 in manner that was far "worse" than those who previously hit the mark. Even then, a hypothetical Mr. Consistency who hit .275 with 150 hits every year for 20 years could argue that he did it the hard way.
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