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Sunday, July 20, 2008
Since the end of the MIL/SF game, word of a trade to be announced tomorrow between the two teams has leaked out, but no one is sure exactly *WHO*.
The Milwaukee Brewers were working on another trade Saturday evening that possibly could net San Francisco veteran second baseman Ray Durham for minor-league outfielder Darren Ford. Whether other players were involved in the talks was unclear.
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The Brewers have been looking for a left-handed bat off the bench as well as relief help, and they have shown interest in Durham (a switch-hitter) as well as Giants left-hander Jack Taschner. The Brewers have scouted Oakland’s Huston Street but apparently received bad reports on the struggling closer.
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A San Francisco source indicated that club was involved in the deal… One rumor circulating had Weeks involved in an expanded deal, but that seemed highly unlikely.
SF Chronicle: Milwaukee might have sights set on Durham
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1. JoeHova Posted: July 20, 2008 at 02:22 AM (#2865260)Four players were suspended for Huntsville, including Brantley and Salome, and a couple of the Chattanooga guys were suspended as well.
And you can't trade for a second baseman and not include Weeks in the deal.
If it's Weeks for Durham I guess I am ok with that. Though of course Ray will proceed to lose all sense of the strike zone. Bound to happen
Umm, for a salary dump 2B and/or a lefty reliever? That doesn't pass the smell test.
SF Chronicle: Milwaukee might have sights set on Durham
Ford getting told he was traded was a good tip-off something was happening. The Brewers had been looking at Street (they sent one of their top scouts to NY to watch the Yankees series), so a Street deal probably did seem the most logical thing.
Ford getting told he was traded was a good tip-off something was happening. The Brewers had been looking at Street (they sent one of their top scouts to NY to watch the Yankees series), so a Street deal probably did seem the most logical thing.
Oh geez; as a Cardinals fan, you're giving me a coronary.
Huston Street is good for what 20-30 innings the rest of the way? Toss BB some scraps and leave it at that.
Which is why the Cards FO should be chased out of Busch Stadium with pitchforks if they didn't at least inquire about Street for twofold; prevent a division rival from getting him (no offense, but which team leads the league in blown saves?) and massively upgrade this pitiful bullpen.
It appears they've backed off Street, but Street would have been different in that he's not a rental - he's 2.5 years from FA.
Somewhat surprisingly, the Brewers' bullpen has pitched the second-fewest innings in the league (an inning more than ARI), which I didn't expect. Early on, a number of the starters weren't going very deep into the game (Villanueva, Parra, Bush), and McClung isn't a guy you can expect to go real deep into the game.
But this staff that's last in the league in strikeouts has to experience a challenge at some point. Not walking anyone and count on the defense is a strategy. But at some point those balls will fall in for a spell...
Was Melvin seeing if he could peel off a Matt Cain in exchange for an additional package of Weeks and other prospects?
The guy is fifth in the league in WHIP.
And Brewer fans lead in whiplash watching him alternate from great to putrid in the space of 5 days....
Doesn't matter if the heart of a team's order reads Ruth/Williams/Bonds/Gehrig if the bullpen can't hold a six-run lead for two innings.
In his last two starts at Miller Park he threw 16 innings, gave up 7 hits, 2 runs and struck out 20 while walking none.
Ouchemama
So the Matt Morris and Mark Sweeney trades don't count?
Maybe not, but it looks like he is going to bookend Prince's league-leading 2007, so I thought it was interesting.
Seriously? I think Melvin would be losing it if he dealt Weeks straight for Durham, yet you would be ok with that. Sorry, but you would have to be off your rocker to do that deal. Yes, Durham is playing better than Weeks, but not last year, and he is going on 37 and has no future.
Hardicourt was worse than Badger Blogger on that one. That was seriously weak reporting and displayed an utter lack of baseball knowledge. D Ford is a nobody.
Who plays center?
Ray Durham has been a consistently good (and weirdly underrated) player for more than a decade now. I don't know if he's "currently playing over his head," but I do know that his OPS+s the previous 7 years (this included) look like this:
118
111
107
104
127
65
112
The number that doesn't stick out is the 112....
But Weeks value is more on "maybe" than anything he has done consistently on the field.
Weeks v RHP in 2008 .203/.304/.342
Durham has no real split for his career, perhaps his ability to hit LHP is in decline with age. Good trade for Brewers, considering Milwaukee's struggles vs RHP, this will be one of those underrated, unnoticed trades that make a difference. Plus, Weeks is the type of player that needs a kick in the pants to get motivated. He only seems to play well when he is being challenged.
Don't understand this trade for the Giants... unless they just wanted to save some cash
Of course, cash is as good as money these days
Hammond is the kind of guy who in the right setting could make a decent contribution either as a number 5 guy or swing guy out of a bullpen.
Ford is fast and who knows. The Crew's A ball affiliates are terrible hitters parks so you need to puff up those numbers by 10 percent.
Don't understand this trade for the Giants... unless they just wanted to save some cash
Of course, cash is as good as money these days
Ford is real junk. Hammond could be a useful part.
Durham is pretty useful for the contending Brewers, but on the Giants, he blocks young players, isn't going to be re-signed, and isn't going to bring picks (you can't offer arb, because he might take it).
I think the Crew will be fine with Durham staying. He's decent insurance on a second baseman who can't hit for 3 weeks straight and has to take a file to break in his glove.
I'll wager that Howard ends up with more MLB HR's than Fielder does.
No manager would bat that many lefties in a row.
Put it this way: Fielder will reach 300 lbs before he reaches 300 HR's.
Weeks and Durham are both terrible defensive second basemen (Weeks is -6 this year, Durham -9 in plus/minus). The defense is pretty much a wash.
You do know that Prince has gone vegetarian and lost about 20 lbs?
His wife is the instigator. So if he gives it up the Mrs. is gonna be p#ssed....
2:1 odds on this, I'd take the bet. Prince has 4-5 years on Howard, more likely Prince hits 100 more HRs than Howard. Both will not be hitting by age 34, but again, age is a huge advantage for Prince. Prince is just a more talented all around hitter than Howard, this will keep him in the game longer than Howard. Howard has a little more power, but is not a good hitter, in the classic sense of the term "hitter".
Harvey's, there is no way Prince has lost 20 lbs.
I doubt you have weighed him, either have I, but using the eyeball, he appears at least 20 lbs heavier this year than last. During one of the broadcasts last month, they did a side by side of Prince this year and last. They were looking at his swing to determine if there was anything mechanical in his swing that caused a drop in power. I noticed a dramatic difference in overall fitness, it is clear looking at his face and beltline, Prince is not leaner.
You can eat macaroni and cheese and call yourself a vegetarian.
Prince 84
Howard 0
Career HR thru age 24
Prince projected 120
Howard 2
Career HR thru age 25
Prince projected 155
Howard 24
Career HR thru age 26
Prince projected 190
Howard 82
Career DL Stints
Prince 0
Howard 2
Durham quietly has cleared 2,000 hits now, 16th among active/DLd players.
And he wears his clothes so darn baggy I give you credit for noticing.
MIL J-S blog:
Present company excepted of course, but I hear tell some guys resolve this issue by giving up the Mrs.
"Give me some more oranges, NOW!"
"But Prince, all you do now is eat oranges and chocolate pudding"
The rare self-inflicted ball-bash. OW.
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