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Tuesday, August 09, 2011

Mitch Williams: Why was Victorino singled out for scuffle?

Shape it, shape it, Wild Thing…

Back to my original question: Why was Victorino the only player suspended? Whiteside and Ramirez were fined; Ramirez instigated the entire thing, and Whiteside made the first physical contact—yet they were fined, not suspended. I don’t understand how they weren’t both suspended as well or why Victorino simply wasn’t fined, as they were.

It sends a bad message—if you are a pitcher, making bad pitches, and the opposing team is hitting those pitches hard, it is OK to drill a batter and not have to worry about being suspended.

People claim all the time that I dislike the Giants. That couldn’t be further from the truth. I really like the Giants, because they play the game the way it is supposed to be played—hard for 27 outs. That is why they have that ring from last year.

The fact is, I don’t care which team or which pitcher is on the mound; you don’t hit a batter on purpose, because you are making mistakes. If you do, you should be suspended. The only reason I believe a hitter should ever be hit on purpose is if it is a situation where the pitcher is standing up for his teammates; to protect them.

In this situation, the fact no Phillies pitcher stood up for Victorino is the saddest part of the whole deal.

Repoz Posted: August 09, 2011 at 08:22 PM | 10 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 09, 2011 at 08:44 PM (#3896471)
Victorino charged the mound and then later bumped past an umpire so that he could jump back into the melee. Three games seems light.
   2. JRVJ Posted: August 09, 2011 at 09:43 PM (#3896507)
I disagree with the final line, but Williams makes a couple of good points in this article.
   3. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 09, 2011 at 10:01 PM (#3896513)
Anything I could write about Williams would be biased since he comes off as Neanderthalically dumb on MLB.
   4. God Posted: August 09, 2011 at 11:23 PM (#3896554)
Because he started it for no reason. Next question.
   5. phatj Posted: August 10, 2011 at 01:00 AM (#3896659)
I have no problem with Victorino's suspension, and I can see why Ramirez didn't get one (I know the consensus is that it was a purpose pitch, but how do we know?), but Whiteside should have been suspended too. Victorino didn't charge the mound, he took a couple steps and was yelling at Ramirez. Understandably, since he thought he had been hit on purpose. But Whiteside comes hopping in like a boxer on crank, so Polanco came in from first and Whiteside tried to tackle him.
   6. Shooty is obsessed with the latest hoodie Posted: August 10, 2011 at 01:04 AM (#3896662)
Because he started it for no reason. Next question.

Maybe he's a Minuteman.
   7. phatj Posted: August 10, 2011 at 01:37 AM (#3896695)
No, he's a minute man.
   8. Renegade JE (((Jason))) Posted: August 10, 2011 at 03:03 AM (#3896824)
I really like the Giants, because they play the game the way it is supposed to be played—hard for 27 outs.

Just once, I want to hear about Williams name a team that plays hard for only 22 or 25.
   9. Honkie Kong Posted: August 10, 2011 at 03:09 AM (#3896831)
I really like the Giants, because they play the game the way it is supposed to be played—hard for 27 outs.

They lose all their extra innings games?
   10. i don't care what the real STIGGLES says right now Posted: August 10, 2011 at 03:31 AM (#3896873)
I really like the Giants, because they play the game the way it is supposed to be played—hard for 27 outs*.


*unless they're down by 6 runs with 12 outs to go, in which case the game is over, and if you proceed to play as if it's not, you'll get hit in the back with a 95 MPH fastball.

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