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Sunday, August 07, 2011

MLB.com: Bucs fall to Padres, drop ninth straight

The Pirates lost their ninth straight game Saturday night in a 13-2 thumping by the Padres at PNC Park.

Paul Maholm took the loss after allowing seven runs on 10 hits in 6 2/3 innings. It was the most earned runs he’d allowed this season.
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The Padres, who averaged 3.46 runs per game entering the series, have scored 28 runs in the past two games against the Pirates.

The Pirates’ pitching staff appears to have all suddenly turned into pumpkins, despite Halloween being over 2 1/2 months away.

NTNgod Posted: August 07, 2011 at 02:31 AM | 25 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walt Davis Posted: August 07, 2011 at 04:08 AM (#3894545)
75 RA in the last 9 games which includes a 1-0 loss to the Cubs. On the bright side, 77,000 for the first two games of a weekend series against the Padres. Good to see turnstiles turning.
   2. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: August 07, 2011 at 04:31 AM (#3894549)
Regression towards the mean. They're better than they've been in a number of years, but they are 75-win good, not 85-win good.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 07, 2011 at 04:39 AM (#3894551)
I liked this show better the first time I saw it.
   4. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: August 07, 2011 at 05:11 AM (#3894560)
I expected them to come back to earth, but not all at once.
   5. McCoy Posted: August 07, 2011 at 12:50 PM (#3894586)
Bad timing on the part of the Cubs for ripping off this winning streak. They've actually fallen further behind the Brewers in the last 10 games despite winning 7 in a row. A month or so ago you rip off a 7 game winning streak and you would be right back in the thick of things. Now you do it and you are still 15 games back.
   6. McCoy Posted: August 07, 2011 at 12:51 PM (#3894587)
On the bright side, 77,000 for the first two games of a weekend series against the Padres. Good to see turnstiles turning.

Well, the tickets were all sold ahead of time. I kind of doubt all the people showed up.
   7. Russ Posted: August 07, 2011 at 01:23 PM (#3894597)
Devastating timing... I'm not sure what has had the bigger effect on the performance of the Pirates, the Alex Presley injury or the end of the NFL lockout and the beginning of Steelers camp.
   8. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: August 07, 2011 at 01:38 PM (#3894603)
Well, the tickets were all sold ahead of time. I kind of doubt all the people showed up.


I was at the game yesterday and today - park was packed both nights. Until the games blew up, anyway.
   9. Justin T drives a crooked hoss Posted: August 07, 2011 at 02:53 PM (#3894632)
Even better that they didn't try any kind of "Go for it" trade(s) this year. The best is yet to come.
   10. McCoy Posted: August 07, 2011 at 03:13 PM (#3894638)
The best is yet to come

I can hardly wait for the mid season Pirates dump to the Cubs next year.
   11. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: August 07, 2011 at 03:44 PM (#3894649)
Bad timing on the part of the Cubs for ripping off this winning streak. . . . A month or so ago you rip off a 7 game winning streak and you would be right back in the thick of things.

Not really.
   12. There's a bustle in Misirlou's hedgerow Posted: August 07, 2011 at 04:05 PM (#3894657)
Bad timing on the part of the Cubs for ripping off this winning streak. . . . A month or so ago you rip off a 7 game winning streak and you would be right back in the thick of things.

Not really.


Yeah. A month or so ago, the Cubs were 15 games below .500. 8 games below in mid July doesn't normally put you in the thick of things.
   13. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: August 07, 2011 at 04:32 PM (#3894661)
Yeah. A month or so ago, the Cubs were 15 games below .500. 8 games below in mid July doesn't normally put you in the thick of things.

And even then, a 7-0 stretch wouldn't replace an 0-7 stretch, more like a 2-5 stretch or something. So they'd only gain five games.
   14. McCoy Posted: August 07, 2011 at 05:34 PM (#3894677)
8 games below in mid July doesn't normally put you in the thick of things.

It does in the NL Central.
   15. McCoy Posted: August 07, 2011 at 05:40 PM (#3894679)
Heading into July the Cubs were 14 games under and 10 games back. They then went 2-5 over the next 7 games to be 17 games under bur only 11 games back. If they had won 7 in a row instead they would have been 41-48 and 6 games back.

Since July 7th the Cardinals have only been 3 games over .500 and the Reds and Pirates have played under .500 ball. The Brewers have been 17-8 during that stretch which of course features a 3 game sweep of the Cubs.
   16. Fancy Pants with a clinging marmoset on his Handle Posted: August 07, 2011 at 06:33 PM (#3894716)
Heading into July the Cubs were 14 games under and 10 games back. They then went 2-5 over the next 7 games to be 17 games under bur only 11 games back. If they had won 7 in a row instead they would have been 41-48 and 6 games back.

But then you have to peplace their current 7 game streak with 2-5... and magically, they are just as far back as they are in reality. Unless by 'timing' you mean 'add an additional winning streak', which is an entirely different argument. It's saying if they were a better team, they would win more. Timing doesn't magically allow you to win more games.

The only way timing can have an impact, is if you time it against your direct competition, and thus cost them games in the standings...
   17. McCoy Posted: August 07, 2011 at 06:47 PM (#3894727)
Anybody else like to overthink this?
   18. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: August 07, 2011 at 06:59 PM (#3894734)
If they had won 7 in a row instead they would have been 41-48 and 6 games back.

Didn't you say that the Pirates were done last week when they were 4.5 back?

(They're done now, of course.)
   19. Fancy Pants with a clinging marmoset on his Handle Posted: August 07, 2011 at 07:15 PM (#3894745)
Anybody else like to overthink this?

What is there to overthink? If you win 10 and then lose 10, you are just as much .500 as if you lose 10 and then win 10. My 7 year old nephew understands this concept...
   20. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: August 07, 2011 at 07:16 PM (#3894746)
Bad timing on the part of the Cubs to suck donkey dick this year or they'd be right back in the thick of things.
   21. There's a bustle in Misirlou's hedgerow Posted: August 07, 2011 at 07:32 PM (#3894760)
8 games below in mid July doesn't normally put you in the thick of things.

It does in the NL Central.


The Brewers have the second best record in the NL, and 4th best in all of baseball, behind only the Phillies, Yankees, and Red Sox.

If they had won 7 in a row instead they would have been 41-48 and 6 games back.


And still in 5th place. Under very unusual circumstances, 41-48 and 6 games back could be considered in the thick of things, but not when you would have to move past 4 other teams, who, while mediocre, still have played better then you on the season. And it's not like the Cubs would have been 41- 48, 6 games back, but finally got Pujols, Halladay, and Kemp healthy again.

That enough overthinking for you?
   22. bigglou115 Posted: August 07, 2011 at 07:40 PM (#3894766)
The Brewers have the second best record in the NL, and 4th best in all of baseball, behind only the Phillies, Yankees, and Red Sox.


Um, the Braves beg to differ, what with their better record than the Brewers and all.
   23. There's a bustle in Misirlou's hedgerow Posted: August 07, 2011 at 07:58 PM (#3894776)
Um, the Braves beg to differ, what with their better record than the Brewers and all.


Nitpick. Yeah, I transposed their records in my head. So let's just say better record than 3 of the other division leaders then. I know it's fashionable to make fun of the NL Central, but the Brewers have a better record than any West team, and the Cardinals are within a game of both West second place teams. Being 6 games behind those two teams is not really in the thick of it, especially when you have proven over more than half a season that you are a well below .500 team, a recent mythical 7 game winning streak notwithstanding.
   24. bigglou115 Posted: August 07, 2011 at 08:07 PM (#3894781)
^ fair enough. Buy the Braves haven't been playing well lately so it's important to note that fact while it's still true.
   25. Pirate Joe Posted: August 08, 2011 at 02:44 AM (#3895040)
Well, the tickets were all sold ahead of time. I kind of doubt all the people showed up.



I was at the game yesterday and today - park was packed both nights. Until the games blew up, anyway.



And I was there on Thursday when there were about 30,000 there, and there were lines at all the ticket windows at the gate next to the Clemente Bridge.

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