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1. McCoy Wilfong for Money Posted: June 19, 2010 at 04:18 PM (#3564186)Nah, Redskin training camp has started, most of DC doesn't even know baseball is going on right now.
Right...it was hell on the train last night.
Oh yeah...it seems they have.
Didn't you also accuse the club of nefarious conduct in not pitching Strasburg on June 4th? Moreover, if you had phrased your objections as you did in the paragraph above, rather than in the manner and frequency you did, then your anus would probably be Esoteric free.
EDIT: And it's your tone, McCoy. That's all. It's the same thing that bugs people about Cameron - it's not that he's wrong, it's that he can be churlish and nasty and recalcitrant after the fact.
Well, it's at least partially that he's wrong, but the other stuff does matter too.
Didn't you also accuse the club of nefarious conduct in not pitching Strasburg on June 4th? Moreover, if you had phrased your objections as you did in the paragraph above, rather than in the manner and frequency you did, then your anus would probably be Esoteric free.
You think they handled that well? They took their customer base for a ride. A buddy mine is also claiming that the Nationals have sold out for today's game because people thought Strasburg would pitch today instead of yesterday. I don't believe that is true since I think it was pretty common knowledge that Strasburg would pitch on Friday.
And I did say what I said originally in the same manner as I did above.
EDIT: And it's your tone
No, it's your own sensitivity to the issue that is the problem. My tone was fine until over sensitive freaks like you decided to climb up my anus for things I never said.
Which makes it even more imperative that the innings he does pitch before then occur in the major leagues.
As far as I can tell, the Nats never suggested, hinted or outright said Strasburg would start on the fourth. Fans speculated that's when he'd start. I suppose they could have come out and said, 'No, he's definitely not starting on the fourth," after the buying frenzy began, but I don't think they had any obligation to.
Do you think that is a good way to handle your customer base? If people call me up for reservations for an event I'm not even having at my restaurant I would think it would be basic business sense to inform my customers of what is actually happening. Why would you want to piss off your customers with a scam that can be easily avoided? Is 15,000 extra tickets really that big of a deal to the Washington Nationals? Are they having problems meeting payroll so that they need to suck up every penny now regardless of what it might cost them down the road?
They were in contention until the final weekend in 1945. Example #9,367 of why WWII baseball was so diluted.
he's got the hype of a true yankee pitching prospect, the difference is that it didn't take him 3 years to pitch a good game.
Would love to know what this is referring to.
For whatever reason, McCoy has the biggest bug up his ass of anyone on this site when it comes to the Nationals franchise, and that's saying something. If the Nationals do get a big crowd for today's game, the main reasons why are because there are a good number of White Sox fans in this area, and today is Ryan Zimmerman Bobblehead Day. This crap about the the team misleading people reagrding Strasburg's start is nothing but a bunch of bullsh1t that he made up.
hyperbole based on the fact that somehow hughes and joba are these out of the world prospects who really haven't until this season for Hughes, lived up to the hype. The sheer number of Joba articles we have read on here dwarves his realized talent and his potential. There are probably a dozen or two as young pitchers in other organizations who are better prospects who get 1/10th the press(yes I know it's New York and all)
Edit: And of course, Joba in his first season gave up 1 earned run in 24 innings while striking out 34 and walking six. I think there were a few good games mixed in there somewhere.
I never realized that Washington fans were so sensitive to the merest hint of a slight. You guys need to grow a pair and realize your team is in the majors now.
If I truly am the poster who is the most annoyed by the Nationals that is saying something. It means nobody really cares about the Nationals because I'm not bothered by the Nationals. Again, I think their tickets are overpriced *gasp* the horror. Do I talk about Riggleman? Do I talk about Zimmerman or Dunn? No. I really don't care about the Nationals. I don't care if they bring back Bowden and his leather pants. As for Strasburg I simply said that I thought that Strasburg could have used some more games in the minors. Where did I say he was a bum or that he wasn't going to be good?
I made up the increase in ticket sales for the June 4th game? I wish I had that kind of money to be able to do that.
Not really seeing the big deal here.
Strasburg is already looking to be the most rabidly-defended player since Jeter.
And everyone else disagreed with you, rabidly.
the reason I said hyperbole is that I knew I was exaggerating it with the one game comment, the point still stands that their prospects receive way more air time than their talent represent. Good players with potential, but nearly every team has some players, the amount of ink used on say Tommy Hanson last year doesn't come remotely close to the amount of ink wasted on the Joba in a typical month. (again I realize it's New York, the media capital of the world or something like that so of course it's going to be distorted to their hometown bias)
I would think that so far the defense has been right. I thought they probably brought him up too soon but it seems like that isn't the case. I personally don't trust any first year player numbers/performance until about the eighth start onwards.
I can certainly understand people disagreeing with me what I don't understand is that why because I said that I somehow become Nationals public enemy #1 and have somehow been labeled as some life long hater of all things Nationals. It wasn't even a disparaging remark on Strasburg or the Nationals. It was an opinion that as of right now looks to have been wrong. Get over it Nationals' fans, you're in the majors now.
Actually the law requires us to post up god awful stickers and signs that inform people that you cannot smoke within our building even though they were never allowed to smoke in our building before the law was enacted. It is actually kind of stupid and pointless. We can get fined and penalized if we don't prominently display these notices even though we've never needed these notices before.
I dunno, thinking about the logic of his handle, if you're in his ass, wouldn't that make him your #####?
If you don't like it you should be more careful about the insults you throw around.
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isn't "anus" the correct medical term? Wouldn't me saying "ass" be the vulgar term?
Did not intend to suggest otherwise.
Just saying, between the "zOMG the Indians fans booed when Strasburg came out" and the "Hitler AKA Dave Cameron suggested Strasburg might not be the best player of all time" and the "All-time spokesman for anti-Nats McCoy said that Nats might have benefited from leaving SS down," the panty-twist factor seems to be as high as I've seen.
Gee, sorry Phil Hughes isn't going to make his first All-Star game until his age 24 season. He's a late bloomer.
Seriously, Hughes was a consensus top-2 pitching prospect in baseball (with Buchholz). He was an awesome prospect who took a couple of years to develop, largely b/c he was hindered by injuries. He's also never posted a FIP above 4.35.
It's not exaggeration, it's the complete polar opposite of the truth when it comes to Hughes and Joba. If someone snarked about "true" Cardinal firstbasemen being all field-no hit and then cited Albert Pujols as an example you'd call them astoundlingly ignorant, and you'd be correct.
Believe me, I'm the guy to ask.
Your behavior speaks entirely for itself.
This is the last time I'm going to comment on this. Just leave us all alone, please.
Want to know what's in my anus?
you very first post on me in regards to strasburg wasyou insulting me. Then when I jokingly poked fun at my statement in another thread you called me a troll. Then in this thread you go the lets make fun of his team route even though my view on strasburg was not disparaging. Basically from the beginning you have acted childish, overly sensitive, and petulantly and now you are shocked, shocked.i tell you, when someone responds to you in similar manner.
I thought it was kinda cute.
GS Player Ks
4 Herb Score 41
5 Herb Score 51
6 Score/Wood 58
7 Herb Score 67
8 Herb Score 78
9 Kerry Wood 85
10 Kerry Wood 94
Mentioning Strasburg along with Kerry Wood and Herb Score would seem IMO to be either ironic or a cautionary tale.
hahahahahahahahahahahahah
I've posted in 4 Strasburg threads. The first one I compared him favorable to one of the greatest pitchers of all time. The second one I repeated that statement and said that perhaps Strasburg would have benefitted from some more games in the minors. The third thread I joked about how my previous statement about him being in the minors looked to be wrong. This thread is the fourth. Esoteric jumped into the second thread to post that I was embarrassing myself. The third thread he called me a troll. In this thread I decided to respond. The Strasburg will hurt himself was a joke, it was gallows humor. It was definitely a taunt but a big boy should have been able to handle it. Almost anybody here who is a fan of any of the larger contingency teams hears something like that virtually everyday and it doesn't get their shorts in a bunch and really he deserved it after the venom he has sent my way needlessly. So in terms of this conversation we reached this point long long before I said a single thing negative about Strasburg and I still haven't said anything negative about Strasburg with any kind of serious tone to my words.
The username was also a joke based on JustinT's actions and SOSH's words. I don't change names and it wasn't meant to be anything other than a short time joke. When Esoteric took exception to it I decided to leave it up for awhile to give him a taste of his own medicine since he seemed to be blisfully unaware that his own actions were/are childish. You can certainly believe that it was disrespectful and inflammatory but I do not agree that it was needlessly either of those things. It was some out of the blue thing.
Mark Prior already came and went.
I thought it was hilarious
oh no, it's not cautionary, because Strasburg is special and different.
What the hell is wrong with you?
I just stopped in to applaud this great word. (I'm not sure it's entirely accurate in context as a description of what occurred, but nevertheless, a truly prize-winning piece of vocabulary.)
SS should count his lucky stars Gil McDougald is retired. And eighty.
From BR bullpen:
In other words, that's a common misperception :)
In other words, that's a common misperception :)
You can't say for sure where Score's career would have gone without the accident---it may well have been affected by overwork---but in his first three starts of 1957, he had game scores of 72, 74, and 82. He followed those with one so-so outing (a 49) before the McDougald game, but it's hardly a given that a sore arm would have been permanent, and it's not hard to imagine that psychological considerations didn't play a big part in Score's inability to make a comeback.
And as one of baseball more famous class acts, it's also entirely possible that Score just didn't want to appear to be making excuses. That's not an uncommon trait in ballplayers who get affected by injuries.
BTW one of the ironies of that Score tragedy was that McDougald himself was hit in the head by a line drive in batting practice two years before that, and gradually lost nearly all of his hearing as a result.
Herbie always maintained that he blew a tendon in this game in 1958. It was apparently a cold damp night. He even used to claim he remembers the pitch where it happened. We've had this discussion before: it fits our model of Greek tragedy to have his career ended by the line drive instead of just another boring "he blew out his arm".
Well, that explanation of Score's nosedive makes a lot more sense than "I was already coming down with a sore arm the night I got hit with the line drive," especially since he'd just pitched a 3-hit shutout in his previous start before that 1958 game. I've never said that any pitcher in his early 20's has a guarantee of an injury-free career.
What the hell is wrong with you?
Yeah, no kidding. At this web site? Matt had to be joking, because he's been a member here way too long to believe something so funny.
well, it WOULD be a first. imagine strasburg creating the same sort of, uh, um, emotions that stuff like polit-icks and steroids/bonds/clemens create.
and too many guys are obsessed with certain body parts. you don't never hear them talking bout knees or spleens or kidneys or something
Sure, but I have to admit that I am somewhat curious as to what the reasons are that McCoy hates the team so vehemently that he's hoping that Strasburg blows his arm out. The Lerners are hardly what I would call ideal owners, but he's now resorting to fabricating nonsensical stories to try to make them seem even worse than they are. I suppose I could understand it if he was a Montrealer or former Expos fan, but he's not; he's a Cubs fan for crying out loud.
I'll readily admit that I enjoy tweaking Billy Beane and his fans on here, but I don't hate the guy so much that I'm hoping his players suffer injuries. Frankly, that borders on pathological.
You think Prior was more exciting that Strasburg? Are you out of your mind?
Sure, but I have to admit that I am somewhat curious as to what the reasons are that McCoy hates the team so vehemently that he's hoping that Strasburg blows his arm out.
JFTR, I don't think any such thing. All I wrote about McCoy was that I thought his notion that Strasburg should have been held back was silly.
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