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Friday, October 07, 2011

MLB.com: With no late magic, Yanks’ season ends

The Yankees’ dreams of a 28th World Series championship were packed into winter hibernation on Thursday, as the Tigers defeated New York, 3-2, in Game 5 of the American League Division Series.
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Manager Joe Girardi’s bullpen usage raised eyebrows after starter Ivan Nova was pulled after two innings with right forearm tightness. But the Yankees managed only two runs against four Detroit pitchers, including Doug Fister, who pitched five good innings for the win.

Nova surrendered two first-inning solo homers to put his club down early. Don Kelly poked the first into the right-field seats and Delmon Young followed on the next pitch with a rocket to left field, marking the first back-to-back homers in Tigers postseason history.

NTNgod Posted: October 07, 2011 at 03:53 AM | 77 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 03:58 AM (#3954741)
Girardi in a different dugout next year?
   2. tfbg9 Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:02 AM (#3954749)
Great game.
   3. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:04 AM (#3954758)
Girardi in a different dugout next year?
Are the Yankees switching to the third base side?
   4. ray james Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:05 AM (#3954761)
On the road, yeah.
   5. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:11 AM (#3954772)
Congratulations to Detroit.

I'll be rooting for you guys in the ALCS.
   6. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:17 AM (#3954781)
the avalanche of post game reaction has Joe in about 34 different places. Is there a more irrational place for fans to come together than the AM radio band?
   7. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:19 AM (#3954784)
I'll bet Miguel Cabrera already has the lamp shade on his head.
   8. El Tigre Astride A Space Camel Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:19 AM (#3954786)
Two fairly evenly matched teams play a close series. I look forward to a similar series of events in the ALCS.
   9. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:29 AM (#3954799)
Tigers win! Fun!
   10. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:36 AM (#3954804)
Thank you, Baseball Jesus.
   11. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:37 AM (#3954809)
There's been some seriously intense baseball over the last eight days. Hard to believe the LCSs haven't even begun yet. This has been a crazy good stretch drive and LDS round (with two LDS elimination games still to go).
   12. JE (Jason) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:44 AM (#3954817)
I'll bet Miguel Cabrera already has the lamp shade on his head.

Seriously, either Jim Leyland or Captain Morgan had better find that dude a designated driver.
   13. Hugh Jorgan Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:45 AM (#3954818)
I was going to go with the infantile rant that would be typical of a bitter Red Sox fan, but all I'm going to go with is this:

Fun series to follow, well done Detroit, good luck in the ALCS.
   14. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:49 AM (#3954821)
If the Cardinals win, I've got no real complaints about whoever wins. Still, Cards, do everyone a favor and knock out the Phillies and then let the Brewers face the Texans for either team's first championship.
   15. scareduck Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:49 AM (#3954822)
Given that the Angels didn't win last year, didn't win this year, and most likely won't win next year, well -- go, Tigers!

Really enjoyed this round, with three of the division series going to five games. I was having a lot of heartburn about how many sweeps there've been in late years, so, cool.
   16. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:51 AM (#3954823)
Seriously, either Jim Leyland or Captain Morgan had better find that dude a designated driver.


Or move the celebration to Boston. The team just eliminated the Yankees, Cabrera could probably swerve over 10-15 BU or BC fratboys and no jury would convict him. Also, 10-15 fewer fratboys. Win-win!
   17. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:57 AM (#3954827)
The team just eliminated the Yankees, Cabrera could probably swerve over 10-15 BU or BC fratboys and no jury would convict him.

That's probably true regardless of any baseball outcomes.
   18. RollingWave Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:59 AM (#3954830)
ugggggggh, ah well it's not a terriblly bad defeat to swallow, aside from Jose Valverde doing his usual ape dance
   19. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 05:02 AM (#3954831)
Holding ARod at third has to sting a bit right now.

But I'm shocked Nova lost. He was 16-4 on the season. That's an .800 winning percentage. And we know he turned into Greg Maddux after he worked on his pitches in the middle of the year.
   20. Benji Posted: October 07, 2011 at 05:49 AM (#3954837)
Great series and the Yankees deserve praise for a great year and fighting injuries and adversity. But I hope somebody kills that P.C. Richard whistle after a strikeout. In player vernacular of my youth, it's Bush League.
   21. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 06:02 AM (#3954839)
Nova going for an MRI tomorrow.

Could be complete ass-covering for Girardi by the Yankees ... could also be something real.

Here's hoping it's the former, not the latter.

"Forearm tightness" is one of those things that doesn't sound so bad, but far too often is a precursor to a TJ procedure ...
   22. DFA Posted: October 07, 2011 at 06:11 AM (#3954841)
With the Yankees out of it and the Red Sox not even making the playoffs, who can I root against now?
   23. hokieneer Posted: October 07, 2011 at 06:13 AM (#3954842)
#22, The Cardinals are an easy choice.
   24. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: October 07, 2011 at 06:20 AM (#3954843)
Congrats to the Tigers. Sucks, but this is probably the least any playoff lost has hurt.

#21, why would they need to cover their asses? Pen gave up 1 run over 7 innings. Offense just failed today.
   25. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: October 07, 2011 at 06:29 AM (#3954847)
No truth to the rumor that Girardi has already started action in the pen for the first spring training game.

"Forearm tightness" is one of those things that doesn't sound so bad, but far too often is a precursor to a TJ procedure ...

Yup, might as well get on Dr. Andrews calender now.
   26. Juan V Posted: October 07, 2011 at 07:24 AM (#3954857)
I think I'll root for the Brewers winning it all now.
   27. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 07, 2011 at 07:49 AM (#3954859)
With the Yankees out of it and the Red Sox not even making the playoffs, who can I root against now?
I'm still rooting against them. From here on out, every game that they're not in is a win.
   28. Pawapuro Posted: October 07, 2011 at 07:56 AM (#3954860)
So we got rid of the Red Sox, Rays and Yankees in 8 days. The baseball gods can be very efficient.
   29. stevegamer Posted: October 07, 2011 at 07:58 AM (#3954861)
Happily, the big baddies are gone, and I can spend more time with my girlfriend watching baseball. She's a Yankee fan, from childhood. It really causes problems when they are int he playoffs, since I hate them and they always get the prime evening time slot.

Hopefully, the Cards are next out, I can't stand LaRussa.
   30. Something Other Posted: October 07, 2011 at 08:43 AM (#3954870)
The Spanks are the only team I enjoy seeing lose. I suppose that makes me a lesser person, but it can't be helped.

Go Everyone Else!
   31. valuearbitrageur Posted: October 07, 2011 at 09:30 AM (#3954878)
Who yearns for the days before the wildcard now?
   32. Something Other Posted: October 07, 2011 at 09:55 AM (#3954880)
Well, I still like the comparative purity of division races but, yeah, the wildcard has its moments. I'm planning to thoroughly not like the expanded playoff format for 2012, however. Once the loot for that gets split umpty different ways, how much is any one person really making off of what I'm happy to prejudge as an unwarranted dilution of the regular season?

I wouldn't have wished the season ending K on Rodriguez. For anyone watching the game (I had to catch it on the radio), how much did Jeter's flyball in the 8th miss the fences by? And how many minutes before the narrative settles in at, 'Jeter gave it a good ride and almost got it done, while Alex spit the bit and choked again'?
   33. Rowland Office Supplies Posted: October 07, 2011 at 10:19 AM (#3954881)
I wouldn't have wished the season ending K on Rodriguez. For anyone watching the game (I had to catch it on the radio), how much did Jeter's flyball in the 8th miss the fences by?


Mid-warning track, but can-of-corn trajectory. I'm surprised Kelly didn't pat his glove to rub it in as he waited to make the catch.
   34. Lassus Posted: October 07, 2011 at 12:04 PM (#3954899)
With the Yankees out of it and the Red Sox not even making the playoffs, who can I root against now?

Texas, obviously. Always Texas.
   35. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: October 07, 2011 at 12:10 PM (#3954901)
What do you guys think, could Jeter have made it to third on Granderson's single if he'd had a decent jump? That was a key play in the game.
   36. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: October 07, 2011 at 12:50 PM (#3954921)
I'm a little sad because Jorge Posada's amazing postseason resurgence isn't going to continue. Spending the whole season as a platoon DH batting ninth might be a little depressing, but if you could couple that with hitting .429/.579/.571 in 15 postseason games before valiantly losing to the Phillies or Brewers, just imagine how the legend of his clutchness would linger.
   37. ray james Posted: October 07, 2011 at 01:00 PM (#3954925)
Nova going for an MRI tomorrow.

Could be complete ass-covering for Girardi by the Yankees ... could also be something real.


??

The Yankees didn't lose because they didn't pitch well.
   38. Bases of Anonymity (Zeyes) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 01:08 PM (#3954929)
So we got rid of the Red Sox, Rays and Yankees in 8 days. The baseball gods can be very efficient.

It would be rather funny if after the AL East has been wiped out so early, the NLCS was contested by two NL Central teams.
   39. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 07, 2011 at 01:10 PM (#3954932)
What do you guys think, could Jeter have made it to third on Granderson's single if he'd had a decent jump? That was a key play in the game.


That, and Alex Rodriguez had a shot at making it to third on Swisher's single to right with one out. Twice, the Yanks had a man on first with one out when the batter singled to rightfield, and in neither case did it look like they ever even thought about trying for third base.
   40. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: October 07, 2011 at 01:17 PM (#3954935)
. The team just eliminated the Yankees, Cabrera could probably swerve over 10-15 BU or BC fratboys and no jury would convict him. Also, 10-15 fewer fratboys. Win-win!

BC grad here. No frats at the school, haven't been for almost 30 years.
   41. Lassus Posted: October 07, 2011 at 01:29 PM (#3954938)
?? The Yankees didn't lose because they didn't pitch well.

I believe he means ass-covering as far as what seemed like a pre-determined strategy to take out pitchers that were doing OK.
   42. WillYoung Posted: October 07, 2011 at 01:44 PM (#3954945)
I was having a lot of heartburn about how many sweeps there've been in late years, so, cool.


It's a lot easier to not have sweeps if the Twins don't make the playoffs.
   43. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 01:51 PM (#3954947)

Mid-warning track, but can-of-corn trajectory. I'm surprised Kelly didn't pat his glove to rub it in as he waited to make the catch.


Jeffrey Maier would have had it. Kids today, meh.
   44. BDC Posted: October 07, 2011 at 02:09 PM (#3954968)
With the Yankees out of it and the Red Sox not even making the playoffs, who can I root against now?

Amazing: one month ago, the Yankees were 2½ ahead of Boston, and the Red Sox were 4½ games ahead of Detroit, 5 ahead of Texas (not to mention 7 ahead of Tampa Bay). FOX was licking its chops over a Sox-Yankees playoff series; I was certainly braced for it, and not even that sanguine that the Rangers could hold their own 2½ game lead over Anaheim. Now I guess we're headed for the lowest TV ratings in the history of the ALCS :) I'll do my part to keep them low by heading out to the Ballpark for Games One and Two ...
   45. chemdoc Posted: October 07, 2011 at 02:14 PM (#3954975)
I congratulate the Yankees on their Pythagorean ALDS victory.
   46. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: October 07, 2011 at 02:17 PM (#3954979)
I congratulate the Yankees on their Pythagorean ALDS victory.

Ouch! Too bad that Pythagoras couldn't have pinch hit for Swisher and A-Rod.
   47. Nasty Nate Posted: October 07, 2011 at 02:23 PM (#3954985)
I'll do my part to keep them low by heading out to the Ballpark for Games One and Two ...


Nice! have fun. This ALCS could be a barnburner.
   48. Textbook Editor Posted: October 07, 2011 at 02:36 PM (#3954995)
Nova going for an MRI tomorrow.

Could be complete ass-covering for Girardi by the Yankees ... could also be something real.

Here's hoping it's the former, not the latter.

"Forearm tightness" is one of those things that doesn't sound so bad, but far too often is a precursor to a TJ procedure ...


FWIW, he went from 42 IP last year to 165 IP this year (doesn't include postseason). That's a pretty big jump; it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out something went kablooey in his arm.

So if CC opts out & signs elsewhere--I know, I know, but humor me--and Nova has something seriously wrong, the rotation would be (based on who is actually signed for 2012):

Burnett
Hughes?
?
?
?

That would be amusing... Though I'm guessing Brinks has already been alerted by the Yankees that their trucks will be needed for a delivery to Sabbathia's house sometime this off-season... And that they'd try to resign at least one of Garcia/Colon... but, still, could be an interesting off-season.
   49. franoscar Posted: October 07, 2011 at 02:38 PM (#3954997)
Cabrera doesn't drink at the celebrations. He participates in the pouring/being poured on, but he is drinking pop.
   50. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 02:47 PM (#3955010)
FWIW, he went from 42 IP last year to 165 IP this year (doesn't include postseason). That's a pretty big jump; it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out something went kablooey in his arm.

It was actually 145 minors + 42 majors in '10 to 165.1 majors + 16 minors + 9 postseason.

[48] I think they will go hard after CJ Wilson.
   51. DKDC Posted: October 07, 2011 at 02:48 PM (#3955012)
Nueva York No Va Al ALCS
   52. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 07, 2011 at 02:50 PM (#3955015)
Well, the plucky underdogs did win the AL East in a year when virtually none of the experts here or in the media picked them to do so -- finishing 7 games ahead of the Best Team Evah. That's something, but, of course, folks wanted a bit more.

Probably going to see a full season of Montero in 2012, which could help. Nova & Hughes could stabilize the rotation (or not), and coupled with a full year of the "good AJ" & CC at the top of his form -- there could be enough pitching, and assuming Father Time doesn't strike down some of the older position players, the Yanks could do well. That's a fair number of ifs, so it's likely to be an interesting year.
   53. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: October 07, 2011 at 02:52 PM (#3955020)
So if CC opts out & signs elsewhere--I know, I know, but humor me--and Nova has something seriously wrong, the rotation would be (based on who is actually signed for 2012):

Burnett
Hughes?
?
?
?

That would be amusing... Though I'm guessing Brinks has already been alerted by the Yankees that their trucks will be needed for a delivery to Sabbathia's house sometime this off-season... And that they'd try to resign at least one of Garcia/Colon... but, still, could be an interesting off-season.


The reason that this early exit was probably the least depressing I can remember is that I can also remember what the Yanks' 2011 rotation looked like at the beginning of the season. The 119 ERA+ they managed to get out of that patchwork pitching staff has got to be one of the greater miracles the Yankees have ever had bestowed upon them this side of Shawn Chacon and Aaron Small. I can see a decent first three next year in CC, Nova and Hughes, and hope springs eternal for Burnett, but finding two more pitchers who can duplicate what Colon and Garcia did is going to take an even greater miracle than what Cashman pulled off this year.
   54. Nasty Nate Posted: October 07, 2011 at 02:54 PM (#3955024)
[48] I think they will go hard after CJ Wilson.


I think so too (especially once CC opts out and signs with Boston...)
   55. Textbook Editor Posted: October 07, 2011 at 03:06 PM (#3955041)
Thanks for the info, NJ in NY--I should have looked into the minors thing.

I think so too (especially once CC opts out and signs with Boston...)


I have no doubt that if Theo leaves, Luchhino will push long and hard to get Sabbathia, regardless of who the next GM is. I don't think it will ultimately yield results, of course...
   56. Nasty Nate Posted: October 07, 2011 at 03:09 PM (#3955050)
I don't really think CC will sign w/ Boston, but I would love it especially if coupled with the Sox trading Beckett.
   57. TomH Posted: October 07, 2011 at 03:10 PM (#3955053)
Fate sometimes brings fairness. Yanks outhit and outpitched Tigers, but lost. Sorta makes up for reedikulous stuff that happened in late 90s etc.

A-Rod had a terrible series, but he ahd more RBI than Jeter. You know what the story woul dbe if the stats were reversed.

Mariano, 1.1 IP in the series. You found ways to get CC in lots of games, but not your best P. Not good.
   58. philphan Posted: October 07, 2011 at 03:28 PM (#3955075)
C'mon, you guys--you know that if CC opts out, he's heading for Philly, right? :-)
   59. Sam M. Posted: October 07, 2011 at 03:31 PM (#3955076)
Burnett
Hughes?
?
?
?


If the Yankees are looking for pitching, we've got a nice innings-snarfing Mike Pelfrey on display in the front window.

First time since 2006 no AL East team is in the ALCS. Darn.
   60. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 03:35 PM (#3955082)
"Mariano, 1.1 IP in the series. You found ways to get CC in lots of games, but not your best P. Not good."

Girardi used him in a blowout game, then didn't use him in a close game (down by 3 in the 9th; back of the pen gave up another run), then allowed Soriano to give up the eventual game-winning run in the 7th of the next game, then didn't use him in a blowout game, then used him last night.

But I don't think Girardi really did anything wrong. I wouldn't have used Rivera in Game 1 (blowout), but I'd have used Rivera in Game 2 (though it didn't end up mattering) and in Game 3 (the Soriano blown lead). I would freely go to Rivera any time starting in the 7th, and even in the 6th if there are bases loaded or whatever, and in an elimination game I'd even go to him earlier. I want to use my best reliever when I think the game is at a turning point. But I'm obsessive about this, and clearly on my own island. Managers today simply aren't going to do that. But I can't fault Girardi for much here.

If I'm remembering correctly, it was 2006 where the Yankees lost to the Tigers and Rivera was a non-factor because Torre kept waiting for a Save Situation that never came.
   61. Nasty Nate Posted: October 07, 2011 at 03:42 PM (#3955087)
I want to use my best reliever when I think the game is at a turning point.


The way the announcers were blathering about the set-up guys having to "get the ball to Valverde" as if it were like some relay race, you would think that by rule the designated closer could not be brought into a game until the 9th inning.
   62. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:00 PM (#3955100)
The thing is that I can control the present. If there are men on base in the 7th of a tie game, I know that Rivera can be useful to me there. I _don't_ know that I'll ever get a chance to use him later in a save situation -- in fact, it's less likely given that I'm trying to use inferior pitchers to get the game to a save situation. And with a save situation there is a margin for error by definition, so I'd rather use the inferior pitchers there. The concept of a closer doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

But the bottom line is that I don't want the other team going through my pen to win a game without getting my best reliever in.
   63. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:12 PM (#3955103)
The thing is that I can control the present.

Well, not really, but I think everyone gets your point. It's not like it's never come up around here before.
   64. Lassus Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:13 PM (#3955104)
The way the announcers were blathering about the set-up guys having to "get the ball to Valverde" as if it were like some relay race, you would think that by rule the designated closer could not be brought into a game until the 9th inning.

This has been the narrative for years now, nothing really too surprising about it.
   65. The Id of SugarBear Blanks Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:15 PM (#3955109)
Who yearns for the days before the wildcard now?

Me. Yankees/Tigers was a great series between two division champs, but there's no discernable reason the Phillies should be playing the Cardinals this week.

What's the point of that series?
   66. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:18 PM (#3955111)
What do you guys think, could Jeter have made it to third on Granderson's single if he'd had a decent jump? That was a key play in the game.

That, and Alex Rodriguez had a shot at making it to third on Swisher's single to right with one out. Twice, the Yanks had a man on first with one out when the batter singled to rightfield, and in neither case did it look like they ever even thought about trying for third base.


I'm not sure Jeter would have been safe, and station-to-station makes a lot of sense with a guy coming off knee surgery.
   67. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:18 PM (#3955113)
What's the point of that series?

Profits.
   68. The Id of SugarBear Blanks Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:20 PM (#3955116)
I was certainly braced for it, and not even that sanguine that the Rangers could hold their own 2½ game lead over Anaheim. Now I guess we're headed for the lowest TV ratings in the history of the ALCS :)

Same conversation as last year at this time, but that's what happens when TV's baseball universe revolves around a tiny handful of teams and fails to introduce other really good teams and really good players to the nation. It's simply absurd that an ALCS between two division champs, one with 95 wins, the other with 96, will be so poorly watched.
   69. Danny Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:22 PM (#3955118)
then didn't use him in a close game (down by 3 in the 9th

You know that the Tigers had a better chance of winning that game than the Red "lock" Sox had of making the playoffs, right?
back of the pen gave up another run

Outcomes suddenly matter to you, now?
   70. Ray (RDP) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:42 PM (#3955144)
Danny, have you ever responded to a post of mine without trying to insult me?

It's really lame. But, whatever.
   71. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 07, 2011 at 04:51 PM (#3955160)
A lot of my Tiger fan friends are amusing me this morning because they're talking as though there aren't tougher teams ahead en route to a world championship. Taking nothing away from the Yankees, I'd fear this year's Rangers or Phillies before quivering in my boots at the sight of the 2011 Yankees. The Yankees had a very good-great team, plus there's always Yankee Magic (TM), but the Ranger bats and the Phillies pitching seems more intimidating than the Yankees had to offer at this point in the season. The rotation felt really patchwork and big bats such as A-Rod and Teixeira have looked off for several weeks.
   72. Willie Mayspedester Posted: October 07, 2011 at 05:13 PM (#3955190)
ARod and Tex really provided some expensive non-hitting in that short series no?
   73. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: October 07, 2011 at 05:19 PM (#3955200)
A lot of my Tiger fan friends are amusing me this morning because they're talking as though there aren't tougher teams ahead en route to a world championship. Taking nothing away from the Yankees, I'd fear this year's Rangers or Phillies before quivering in my boots at the sight of the 2011 Yankees. The Yankees had a very good-great team, plus there's always Yankee Magic (TM), but the Ranger bats and the Phillies pitching seems more intimidating than the Yankees had to offer at this point in the season. The rotation felt really patchwork and big bats such as A-Rod and Teixeira have looked off for several weeks.

You're right about all of the above, and you might also remind your Tiger friends about 2006.
   74. Karl from NY Posted: October 07, 2011 at 05:50 PM (#3955230)
"Who do we root against now" - Philly is quite obviously the evillest force remaining. Maybe Texas if you really don't like Hamilton or just don't like Texas (the state).

Brewers seem to be the clearest force of good. Not sure whether to dock them for whatever ties Selig still has there, or take satisfaction that they're winning now that Selig's gone. Probably about a wash.
   75. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: October 07, 2011 at 07:33 PM (#3955381)
Brewers
DBacks
Tigers
Rangers
Cardinals
Phillies

No room for debate, sorry.
   76. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 07:53 PM (#3955392)
Brewers
DBacks
Tigers
Rangers
Cardinals
Phillies

No room for debate, sorry


I would flip the Rangers and Cards...or maybe just call it a tie, but this looks right.
   77. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 07, 2011 at 07:59 PM (#3955396)
"Who do we root against now"


Texas - because, #### the state of Texas

big gap

Arizona - because, well, #### the state of Arizona too

gap

Philly / St. Louis - mostly just ambivalent between these two. suppose I should root against Philly fans, but that's more or less balanced by my dislike of TLR.

big gap

Detroit - for Jim Leyland, chain smoking his heaters down the tunnel between innings and for the city, which deserves some awesome

gap

Milwaukee - for my grandmother, who was a big Brewers fan and for the state of Wisconsin, which is just a wonderful place filled with some of the nicest people I've ever met.

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