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Tuesday, June 04, 2013

MLB Draft OMNICHATTER

First round draft order:

1. Houston Astros
2. Chicago Cubs
3. Colorado Rockies
4. Minnesota Twins
5. Cleveland Indians
6. Miami Marlins
7. Boston Red Sox
8. Kansas City Royals
9. Pittsburgh Pirates (compensation for failing to sign Mark Appel)
10. Toronto Blue Jays
11. New York Mets
12. Seattle Mariners
13. San Diego Padres
14. Pittsburgh Pirates
15. Arizona Diamondbacks
16. Philadelphia Phillies
17. Chicago White Sox
18. Los Angeles Dodgers
19. St. Louis Cardinals
20. Detroit Tigers
21. Tampa Bay Rays
22. Baltimore Orioles
23. Texas Rangers
24. Oakland Athletics
25. San Francisco Giants
26. New York Yankees
27. Cincinnati Reds
28. St. Louis Cardinals (compensation for Brewers’ signing of Kyle Lohse)
29. Tampa Bay Rays (compensation for Braves’ signing of B. J. Upton)
30. Texas Rangers (compensation for Angels’ signing of Josh Hamilton)
31. Atlanta Braves (compensation for Indians’ signing of Michael Bourn)
32. New York Yankees (compensation for Indians’ signing of Nick Swisher)
33. New York Yankees (compensation for Nationals’ signing of Rafael Soriano)

The Brewers (17th), Angels (22nd), Braves (28th), and Nationals (29th) all forfeited their original first round picks as a result of their free agent signings. The Indians’ first-round pick at #5 was protected, so they forfeited their competitive-balance pick and their second-round pick.

Mike Emeigh Posted: June 04, 2013 at 03:27 PM | 280 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: June 05, 2013 at 10:40 AM (#4460955)
It's strange that the Indians had to forfeit the competitive balance pick too. So if they hadn't had a competitive balance pick would they have had to forfeit a 3rd rounder or do the rich just get off cheaper?
   2. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 05, 2013 at 10:45 AM (#4460964)
What time does this kick-off?
   3. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 05, 2013 at 11:04 AM (#4460987)
7PM for the start of the draft.

It looks like a pretty interesting, if not especially deep draft. There are enough concerns about even the top tier guys that depending on what you value things could change pretty radically as the draft progresses. As a Red Sox fan I've been focusing on the top seven (Sox pick seventh) and I've seen probably 16-17 different names in those top 7 in different mocks the last few weeks. Appel, Gray, Bryant and Moran seem to be certainties but the order and the other names in there keeps moving.
   4. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 05, 2013 at 12:32 PM (#4461106)
This year's draft isn't particularly deep, as Jose notes, while next year's draft is (Rodon, Beede, Trea Turner, Aaron Nola, Nick Burdi among the top college guys, plus a host of HS hitters again). There are at least 10-15 guys in next year's class who would be top-5 candidates this year.

With that in mind, I can't see a team willing to go over slot this year for someone like Appel or Gray - and that suggests to me that there are scenarios where Appel in particular could drop again, just like he did last year. The Astros could easily do what they did a year ago and go for someone who will agree up front to a below-slot deal, freeing up money to be used elsewhere.

-- MWE
   5. JJ1986 Posted: June 05, 2013 at 12:42 PM (#4461119)
Does Appel have to sign a paper allowing the Pirates to draft him like it was under the last CBA? Has he done so?
   6. billyshears Posted: June 05, 2013 at 12:56 PM (#4461136)
I'm calling it now - Appel slides to the Yankees who punt their other 2 first round picks to pool the money to sign him.
   7. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 05, 2013 at 01:00 PM (#4461142)
I'm curious to see if Gray slips. The combination of the positive adderall test and Biogenesis blowing up again might scare teams off. He shouldn't but a couple teams scared off by cost, couple others by PED taint and he could slip to 6-10 rather than top 3.
   8. Gamingboy Posted: June 05, 2013 at 01:07 PM (#4461148)
Baseball America has a list of potentially drafted players with notable relatives.
   9. bigboy1234 Posted: June 05, 2013 at 01:31 PM (#4461186)
MLB Draft goes primetime and draws against game 1 of the NBA Finals, not the greatest break.
   10. bigboy1234 Posted: June 05, 2013 at 01:33 PM (#4461187)
#7, Gray may end up signing for a discount with the Adderall thing, so that may be even more incentive for a team to draft him.
   11. Sonic Youk Posted: June 05, 2013 at 01:56 PM (#4461213)
I don't see how Appel could fall because of signability. This is the year that he's pitched himself into an elite draft position. With the slotting rules, isn't this the most he'll ever get paid? If he burns a team again, and plays Indy ball for a year, what team is going to blow up their draft next year to pick him and pay him HIGHER than 1-1 money? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the rules.

I also don't think the adderall thing will matter. The two pitchers and Bryant will go top 3 unless Huston picks Moran.
   12. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: June 05, 2013 at 02:03 PM (#4461228)
Thanks Gamingboy! My favorite part of the draft is seeing the sons/relatives of Major Leaguers being drafted. MLB.com did a piece on Manny Ramirez Jr. the other day.
   13. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 05, 2013 at 02:12 PM (#4461246)
HIGHER than 1-1 money? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the rules.


The issue is that he may not go 1-1. He loses a million dollars dropping to #2, another 1.1 dropping to 3 and by the time he's gotten to #7 (which I don't think he will) he'll have lost half the value of that #1 pick. If he is insistent on getting 1-1 money (and I don't know that he is, just making the point) then any team other than the Astros that drafts him really has to commit to him.

Baseball America has a nice list of each team's bonus pool which is probably worth keeping handy.

So how does this make him fall? Well, if he doesn't go 1 or 2 then he becomes a pretty tough sign. The thing is when you get down to 7 or 8 and beyond you get to a point where a team might feel it's too good an option to pass up. Let's use the Red Sox as an example. With next year's draft better than this year's the Sox could take him at 7 and offer him slot (about $3.2). If he passes up the Sox could wait until next year's better draft and take the 8th pick (do I have that right?) with the expectation/hope that #8 in 2014 is worth the wait.
   14. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 05, 2013 at 02:14 PM (#4461250)
Baseball America list of slot value for every pick in the first ten rounds.
   15. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 05, 2013 at 02:36 PM (#4461286)
I don't see how Appel could fall because of signability.


Astros take Moran, Cubs take Gray, Rockies take Bryant, Twins take Kohl Stewart. He's now at the Indians, slot value $3.787 million, about what he turned down from the Pirates last year - and because the Indians had to give up both their competitive-balance pick and their second-rounder, they don't have the money flexibility that the teams above them have. That's not an unreasonable scenario.

It comes down to what the top handful of teams think that (a) Appel is worth; (b) how much flexibility they have later; and (c) what it will take to sign him. Realistically, any team below the Twins - except for maybe the Marlins - is going to have to juggle just to offer him what the Pirates did last year.

-- MWE
   16. DL from MN Posted: June 05, 2013 at 03:24 PM (#4461380)
Every mock I've seen that has one of the top 3 sliding to the Twins has the Rockies taking Bryant at #3. Do the Rockies really have Bryant #1 on their draft board or would they rather have one of the pitchers? Also, do the Cubs like Appel or Gray better?
   17. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 05, 2013 at 03:56 PM (#4461449)
From what I've read Bryant to the Rockies is an absolute lock unless the Astros or Cubs take him. I don't know if that's accurate or not but it seems to be the conventional wisdom.
   18. TerpNats Posted: June 05, 2013 at 04:50 PM (#4461523)
MLB Draft goes primetime and draws against game 1 of the NBA Finals, not the greatest break.
No one watches the MLB draft for celebs or bling.
   19. bigboy1234 Posted: June 05, 2013 at 05:27 PM (#4461570)
I know, they watch it for potential future celebs with bling.
   20. Gamingboy Posted: June 05, 2013 at 05:45 PM (#4461585)
No one watches the MLB draft for celebs or bling.



But International Man of Bling Bud Selig hosts!
   21. DA Baracus Posted: June 05, 2013 at 05:53 PM (#4461592)
No one watches the MLB draft for celebs or bling.


I watch it for Bud Selig's charisma. It doesn't get any better than when he says "Los Angeles."
   22. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 05, 2013 at 08:32 PM (#4461705)
Has this started yet?
   23. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: June 05, 2013 at 09:04 PM (#4461752)
Are there any sons of ballplayers who are expected to go high?
   24. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 05, 2013 at 09:24 PM (#4461778)
Does Jeff Weaver have a son?
   25. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 05, 2013 at 09:26 PM (#4461782)
Has this started yet?


Tomorrow night, Snapper.

-- MWE
   26. steagles Posted: June 05, 2013 at 10:04 PM (#4461811)
i don't know much about the prospects in this year's draft, but here are some words/phrases that i do not want to hear about whoever the phillies select in the first ~5 rounds:

"hacker"
"glove-first"
"raw but toolsy"
"may be a rapist"
"has a chance to stick at catcher"
"will have to move to 1B"
"grandfather was a nazi warcriminal"
"more of an average hitter than a power hitter"
"pitcher"
"may not hit enough..."
"creampie"
"organizational player"
"holds the iowa state fair record for most sticks of fried butter consumed in 5 minutes.
"overbearing father; mother disappeared under mysterious circumstances"
"never misses an episode of honey-boo-boo"
"scouts compare his delivery to jim abbott"
"____ drew"
"has a football scholarship to (random SEC school)"
"_____ rolen"
"wife/girlfriend/sister appeared in 2 girls 1 cup"
"could be a lighter hitting endy chavez"
   27. Gamingboy Posted: June 06, 2013 at 12:08 AM (#4461884)

Are there any sons of ballplayers who are expected to go high?


Colin Moran is BJ Surhoff's nephew and is expected to be a top 10 pick, does that count?
   28. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: June 06, 2013 at 01:36 AM (#4461910)
Only odds on favorite to go in round 1, off the top of my head, is Hunter Harvey (son of Bryan)
   29. Sonic Youk Posted: June 06, 2013 at 02:09 AM (#4461913)
I believe Paul Quantrill's son is supposed to go pretty high too.

13-15 thanks, that makes sense. I had no idea the slots declined that precipitously. Obviously 3 vs 4 makes a huge difference. But, because of the slotting rules, wherever he gets picked, he'd need to bet that he gets picked at least one spot higher in next years draft, which is deeper, right?
   30. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 06, 2013 at 10:43 AM (#4462072)
Are there any sons of ballplayers who are expected to go high?


Craig Biggio's son is expected to go fairly early, as well.

Lee Mazilli's boy is fairly well-regarded, and he'll probably go in the first ten rounds for a team that wants a good senior sign.
   31. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 06, 2013 at 10:56 AM (#4462089)

Tomorrow night, Snapper.

-- MWE


Oh, OK. This thread confused me.
   32. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 06, 2013 at 11:03 AM (#4462099)
Rockies rumored to be interested in 1B Dominic Smith at #4. That's a lot higher than mocks have him going. He reminds me of Eric Hosmer a lot.

Red Sox supposedly love Austin Meadows or Clint Frazier. Frazier just screams "the next Jeff Francoeur" to me. Georgia kid, a "gamer", not especially big but wiry with great power, overly aggressive, "athletic." Yep, that's Frenchy. Meadows reminds me a bit of Johnny Damon and is the better pick IMO.

RHP Cody Reed tweeted he worked out for the Royals. The Royals would probably consider him for the 34th pick if he's available.

Latest Baseball America Mock Draft

Carl Crawford's nephew J.P. is expected to go in the first 15 picks. Profiles as a similar player, although he's at SS for now (probably ends up in CF).

Phil Bickford and Austin Wilson are my first round "sleepers". Bickford has great velocity and command for a prep pitcher, he just lacks secondary pitches. Wilson had an injury that hurt his year at Stanford, but he's huge and looks like a Carlos Quentin-type power hitter with good plate discipline (and a propensity for getting HBPs).

I think Frazier, Ryne Stanek, and Reese McGuire have bust potential. Appel won't be a bust, but I think he'll be fairly "meh" for a top five pick.

Colin Moran reminds me of Dustin Ackley. (I know, I have a "same school" comp thing going)

DJ Peterson reminds me of Billy Butler.

Sean Manaea reminds me of Madison Bumgarner.

   33. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 06, 2013 at 11:06 AM (#4462104)
wherever he gets picked, he'd need to bet that he gets picked at least one spot higher in next years draft, which is deeper, right?


Not necessarily as the slot amounts increased this year and could increase next year. It's probably likely to say that he can't go any lower.

If he doesn't sign this year though it's not clear to me what happens. I'm sure someone here knows but if he goes and plays Indy ball for a year does he become a free agent? That probably changes things though of course he's gambling pretty heavily at that point. He's closing in on Matt Harrington territory here. At some point I would think you say $3,000,000>$11.50/hour at CostCo and sign but guys like Drew and Varitek have succeeded doing otherwise.
   34. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: June 06, 2013 at 11:12 AM (#4462114)
Thanks guys! I'm curious about Ramirez Jr.

A little bummed that the draft isn't until tonight. Now what am I going to do at work all day?
   35. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 06, 2013 at 11:15 AM (#4462118)
Rounds 3-10 are tomorrow at 1 pm
   36. Astroenteritis Posted: June 06, 2013 at 11:16 AM (#4462122)
I find myself hoping the Astros take Appel, but it doesn't look like they will. Like Meadows a lot.

And as for #26, if a pick is connected to....

"wife/girlfriend/sister appeared in 2 girls 1 cup"


...you can take him off the board...YES!
   37. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 06, 2013 at 11:26 AM (#4462138)
Rockies rumored to be interested in 1B Dominic Smith at #4. That's a lot higher than mocks have him going.


I assume that's if Bryant is already taken.

I like the idea of the Rox going after a big power hitter, rather than another washout pitcher. Coors Field notwithstanding, the Rockies haven't had a 40-homer hitter since Todd Helton in 2001.
   38. bigboy1234 Posted: June 06, 2013 at 11:35 AM (#4462158)
Assuming you are an Astro fan (which I'm guessing you are by your name) why do you hope the Astros take Appel? Both PG and BA (by far the two best sources) have the exact same top 5 players as Gray, Appel, Bryant, Frazier, Stewart. If I'm an Astro fan I just hope they don't go Moran.

Gray vs. Appel - Gray has the better pure arm, thus better fastball, their breaking balls are pretty equal but I'd give a very slight advantage to Gray's potential breaking ball, then Appel has the better change-up. Appel has more of a track record, better body, and to me slightly better performance this year. To me both should be dominating more than they are based on their stuff, that combined with them being pitchers and I can see why a team may like Bryant or Frazier more.

Others (Bryant, Frazier, Stewart) - Bryant has monster power, but still has slight worrisome contact issues and may end up being a RF instead of a 3B, he was also brutal in the Cape a couple years ago. Frazier, I don't know, I don't like talking about HS guys really, but kid has now tools but not a ton of projection left. Stewart would be the hometown kid for the Astros (they aren't thought to be in on him really though) but a HS pitcher is quite risky, that being said his arm is said to be as good as Appel's with more athleticism.

Will be interesting to see where Manaea ends up going with all his injury concerns after having probably the most impressive Cape Cod seasons ever.

Anyone have any players they think are sleepers?
   39. AROM Posted: June 06, 2013 at 11:37 AM (#4462163)
Frazier just screams "the next Jeff Francoeur" to me. Georgia kid, a "gamer", not especially big but wiry with great power, overly aggressive, "athletic." Yep, that's Frenchy.


Frenchy is pretty big, 6'4, listed at 210 which he probably was on draft day, probably around 230-240 now.
   40. Astroenteritis Posted: June 06, 2013 at 12:18 PM (#4462229)
why do you hope the Astros take Appel? Both PG and BA (by far the two best sources) have the exact same top 5 players as Gray, Appel, Bryant, Frazier, Stewart. If I'm an Astro fan I just hope they don't go Moran.


I've come around on Appel (didn't want him last year) because I see him as a "safer" pick, if that's possible given TINSTAAPP. His performance this year has been encouraging, and has boosted his stock. Would not be unhappy with Gray, either, or Bryant, though Bryant doesn't seem to be in the picture for Houston. I would normally prefer a position player with the 1-1, but Appel seems fairly polished, and the system is begging for some potential top of the rotation talent.
Agree that Moran would be letdown with the 1-1.
   41. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2013 at 12:45 PM (#4462290)
If I'm an Astro fan I just hope they don't go Moran.


The problem here, I think, is that the Astros are going to have to pay Gray or Appel something close to slot money to get them to sign. Moran has less upside, sure (will he hit for power?), but he'd likely sign for less than slot, which would give the Astros a lot of flexibility later.

I don't see either Gray or Appel as truly being worth a 6-7 million dollar bonus; the fact that they're at the top of the draft class is more a testimony to the shallowness of the pool as it is to their level of talent. In that context, if I can get a somewhat lesser talent to sign for less money and use the savings to grab a good talent or three later, that might make a heck of a lot more sense.

For the people who think Appel has no leverage and will sign for whatever - because Appel is a college senior, the July 15 signing deadline does not apply to him, so he can hold the rest of the team's bonus pool hostage, and I have little doubt that with Boras as his advisor he will do just that.

-- MWE
   42. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2013 at 12:49 PM (#4462301)
Phil Bickford and Austin Wilson are my first round "sleepers".


I like Rob Kaminsky, a lefty HS pitcher out of New Jersey. If he were 6'2" or 6'3" instead of 6', he'd be getting some top-10 love.

-- MWE
   43. bigboy1234 Posted: June 06, 2013 at 12:55 PM (#4462310)
While Gray isn't a Strasburg/Harper type talent, but most accounts his talent is deserving of the first overall pick.
Jim Callis ?@jimcallisBA 1h

No reason $9.2 mil not in ballpark to get Gray or Appel, then Manaea. #Astros #mlbdraft

Jim Callis ?@jimcallisBA 2h

Rumblings #Astros might be team to pop Manaea, at No. 40. Not sure what cost would be but they have $9.2 mil for top 2 picks. #mlbdraft

That would have to be the dream for Astronation.
   44. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 06, 2013 at 01:02 PM (#4462323)

The problem here, I think, is that the Astros are going to have to pay Gray or Appel something close to slot money to get them to sign. Moran has less upside, sure (will he hit for power?), but he'd likely sign for less than slot, which would give the Astros a lot of flexibility later.


If you're going to reach at 1-1 for an underslot deal, why not do so with a prep player with more upside than Moran like Austin Meadows or one of the pitchers like Kohl Stewart? Moran doesn't do much for me.
   45. bookbook Posted: June 06, 2013 at 01:05 PM (#4462334)
Colin Moran is Brian Moran's brother. Brian Moran will probably get a few innings in the Mariners bullpen of doom this summer.
   46. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2013 at 01:06 PM (#4462336)
If you're going to reach at 1-1 for an underslot deal, why not do so with a prep player with more upside than Moran like Austin Meadows or one of the pitchers like Kohl Stewart?


Risk/reward. Moran's something like a 50 or 55 medium (to use BA's scale), Meadows something like a 60 or 65 high. You can't afford a complete bust at 1-1.

-- MWE
   47. Astroenteritis Posted: June 06, 2013 at 01:11 PM (#4462346)
I don't see either Gray or Appel as truly being worth a 6-7 million dollar bonus; the fact that they're at the top of the draft class is more a testimony to the shallowness of the pool as it is to their level of talent.


This may be key point in the Houston thinking. If they can max their dollars as they did last year, and they don't think Gray or Appel are worthy of a huge bonus, then it makes sense to try and spread the money around.
I can't see them picking Appel unless they already have a deal, or are certain they can work one out. As much as the farm system has improved the last few years there is still a need for top to bottom talent.
Now Manaea, yes, that would be wonderful.
   48. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 06, 2013 at 01:12 PM (#4462352)

Risk/reward. Moran's something like a 50 or 55 medium (to use BA's scale), Meadows something like a 60 or 65 high. You can't afford a complete bust at 1-1.


Meh. I've seen enough "close to MLB ready/low ceiling guys" completely bust (Jeff Austin, Luke Hochevar, heck Dustin Ackley ain't looking so hot) to be willing to take the risk on a higher upside guy.
   49. Mark S. is bored Posted: June 06, 2013 at 02:10 PM (#4462434)
I find myself hoping the Astros take Appel, but it doesn't look like they will. Like Meadows a lot.


From Keith Law's Mock Draft this morning:

So the last rumor of the night Wednesday … or the small hours of Thursday morning, had the Astros trying to nail down a price from Appel so they could take him with the first pick and still ensure that they had enough savings to exceed MLB's bonus recommendations with picks 40 and 74.
   50. Rennie's Tenet Posted: June 06, 2013 at 02:44 PM (#4462496)
Hunter Harvey


Hunter Harvey is going to shoot a wabbit.
   51. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2013 at 04:29 PM (#4462639)
Shadow drafting the Pirates through the first five rounds, but since I probably won't be around when the draft starts I'm going to post what I'd do now.

Pick #9, in order of preference: Peterson, Crawford, Dominic Brown
Pick #14, in order of preference: Crawford, Brown, Kaminsky (obviously whoever I take at 9 affects this pick, i.e. if I'd take Peterson at 9 he'd be gone by 14 so I don't have him here).

We will see who I end up with.

-- MWE
   52. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2013 at 04:32 PM (#4462644)
by most accounts his talent is deserving of the first overall pick.


This year. There are about half a dozen players in next year's draft who would likely go ahead of Appel if they were coming out this year.

-- MWE
   53. DA Baracus Posted: June 06, 2013 at 04:43 PM (#4462657)
In 2009, only one player was in attendance for MLB Network's coverage of the draft, because he lived not too far from their studios.

It was Mike Trout.
   54. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 06, 2013 at 04:45 PM (#4462662)
My draft board:

1. 3B Kris Bryant
2. P Jonathan Gray
3. P Mark Appel
4. P Kohl Stewart
5. P Trey Ball
6. P Braden Shipley
7. OF Austin Meadows
8. 3B DJ Peterson
9. 3B Colin Moran
10.P Sean Manaea
11.OF Austin Wilson - I know I'm way rating him higher than others do, but I love this guy
12.P Phil Bickford
13.1B Dominic Smith
14.SS JP Crawford
15.OF Clint Frazier
16.P Ryne Stanek
17.OF Hunter Renfroe
18.3B Eric Jagielo
19.C Reese McGuire
20.P Alex Gonzalez

Keith Law and Peter Gammons are both saying the Royals are taking Bickford. I'd be okay with that - I think he has pretty good upside, but I think there are better talents out there. What I think is that they have a pre-draft deal with him for underslot and will go over-slot at #34, which would be a terrific strategy IMO.
   55. steagles Posted: June 06, 2013 at 04:50 PM (#4462670)
Dominic Brown
i believe he may have already been taken.
   56. bigboy1234 Posted: June 06, 2013 at 05:04 PM (#4462684)
lol no Mike, any year and I'm talking about Gray, who is rated higher than Appel by more people that matter to me.
As discussed above, Appel and Gray have set themselves apart from the rest of the group. They fall in the middle range of typical No. 1 overall selections.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/ask-ba-who-are-the-2013-drafts-true-first-rounders/

Rick (Sherbrooke,QC): If illigible in this year draft, where would you have rank Rondon & Beede ?
Jim Callis: I’d put Carlos Rodon No. 3 because his command hasn’t been as sharp as that of Appel and Gray. You could argue those guys in any order, though. Beede would fit in the 6-10 range somewhere.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/draft-chat-with-jim-callis-may-9/
   57. Dan Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:03 PM (#4462788)
Why so low on Frazier, RR?
   58. JJ1986 Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:07 PM (#4462790)
Why do teams need 4:30 to make a pick? Especially the first team.
   59. JJ1986 Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:12 PM (#4462792)
Another win for Scott Boras.
   60. Dan Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:14 PM (#4462794)
Proving his need to say something stupid about every topic, Harold Reynolds predicts Appel will be in the majors by July.
   61. Dan Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:18 PM (#4462795)
Cubs go Bryant over Gray. This is getting a bit interesting.
   62. bigboy1234 Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:19 PM (#4462796)
I like how they just get extra time if they want it, what is exactly the point of the timer then? Poor Gray may get stuck in pitchers hell now, or will the crazy rumor about Dom Smith to the Rockies come true?
   63. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:20 PM (#4462797)
Why do teams need 4:30 to make a pick? Especially the first team.


So MLBN can do their thing
   64. JJ1986 Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:23 PM (#4462798)
Poor Jonathan Gray.
   65. LionoftheSenate (Brewers v A's World Series) Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:27 PM (#4462803)
Does anyone have an opinion on MLB holding the draft during the College Baseball post season tourney? I know these dates have overlapped for years now, but now that this is a media event, wouldn't it be a tad better to hold this immediately after the CWS in a couple of weeks? Allow some of these college players to attend and even enjoy? Or tell me it doesn't matter? It will certainly give fans of teams that took expensive arms heartburn watching their SP studs throw 150 pitches.
   66. LionoftheSenate (Brewers v A's World Series) Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:31 PM (#4462806)
Gray may end up signing for a discount with the Adderall thing, so that may be even more incentive for a team to draft him.


The Brewers sitting in the mid 50s with their first pick could use him. Braun could even teach him a thing or two about how to make forceful denials in the media.
   67. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:31 PM (#4462808)
Does anyone have an opinion on MLB holding the draft during the College Baseball post season tourney? I know these dates have overlapped for years now, but now that this is a media event, wouldn't it be a tad better to hold this immediately after the CWS in a couple of weeks? Allow some of these college players to attend and even enjoy?


I bet it actually works in favor of the CWS. This creates an additional interest in the tourney as fans start tuning in to see the guys their teams drafted.
   68. TerpNats Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:32 PM (#4462809)
With the Nats game rained out, I can watch the draft...though I won't have any direct interest until tomorrow.
   69. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:32 PM (#4462810)
First four picks went as expected with the names, albeit not with the order.

Mayo says Colin Moran.

-- MWE
   70. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:34 PM (#4462811)
It's Howdy Doody Time...
   71. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:35 PM (#4462812)
Clint Frazier to the Indians. Probably the best talent available, but he wasn't expected to go quite that high.

-- MWE
   72. bigboy1234 Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:35 PM (#4462813)
In an interesting twist, the Indians have made Clint Frazier a 3B according to Selig.
   73. Dan Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:37 PM (#4462815)
Frazier was my hope for the Red Sox at #7. Bleh.
   74. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:41 PM (#4462818)
I'd really like to see the Sox get Meadows. I'm OK with Moran but I'm nervous that the Sox might do something like Stanek if the Marlins take Meadows.
   75. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:43 PM (#4462820)
Colin Moran to the Marlins. That leaves Meadows for the Red Sox if they want to go that way.

-- MWE
   76. Dan Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:44 PM (#4462822)
If the Sox dont take Meadows I will be very disappointed.
   77. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:44 PM (#4462823)
Everything I've read suggests that he's up on their board. I expected that if he or Frazier were there they would take one of them. I'll be surprised if he's not the pick.
   78. TerpNats Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:44 PM (#4462824)
Selig announced Moran as being "from UNC-Chapel Hill"...is Selig a Wolfpack fan? (N.C. State loves to refer to the Tar Heels as "UNC-Chapel Hill," rendering them to the level of Wilmington, Greensboro or Asheville.)
   79. bigboy1234 Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:46 PM (#4462825)
Luhnow just bursted Reynolds bubble with letting him down gently without calling him an idiot for his July/Appel comment.
   80. JJ1986 Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:46 PM (#4462827)
Selig usually announces it as "The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina."
   81. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:49 PM (#4462828)
Red Sox take Trey Ball.

-- MWE
   82. Dan Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:49 PM (#4462829)
Boooo
   83. TerpNats Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:49 PM (#4462830)
Disappointed, Dan?
   84. LionoftheSenate (Brewers v A's World Series) Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:50 PM (#4462831)
Selig went to the University of Wisconsin and in Wisconsin, it is not unusual to refer to Wisconsin as UW-Madison.
   85. Dan Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:51 PM (#4462832)
Yes. Red Sox had their first top 10 pick in ages, and Cherington blew it. Just like everything else he's done as GM (with the possible exception of the Punto Trade, but that was supposedly mostly done on the ownership level anyway so it's hard to give him much credit for it)
   86. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:53 PM (#4462833)
I meant Dominic Smith, not Brown....arrrr

-- MWE
   87. bigboy1234 Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:53 PM (#4462834)
Would be nice if they utilized Callis at all, but I guess they have to have a commercial between every pick.
   88. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:55 PM (#4462835)
Royals take Hunter Dozier. First surprise of the draft. Dozier was projected at the back end of the round. Mayo says the Royals are cutting a deal, which makes sense.

-- MWE
   89. JJ1986 Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:55 PM (#4462836)
Royals just took BA's 39th ranked prospect at 8.
   90. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:56 PM (#4462837)
I wonder if Bryant can stick at third. Cubs really need some pitching but I guess depth isnt a bad thing and next year they should still have a pretty high pick.
   91. Bull Pain Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:56 PM (#4462839)
Selig keeps saying 2000 First Year Player Draft! That's at least the 3rd time.
   92. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:57 PM (#4462840)
Jonathan Mayo actually being critical of a pick! Hallelujah!
   93. Mark S. is bored Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:57 PM (#4462841)
Who is Hunter Dozier and is he related to DJ Dozier?
   94. Willie Mayspedester Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:57 PM (#4462842)
When you've been alive 156 years it's hard to remember the year.
   95. Willie Mayspedester Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:58 PM (#4462843)
I thought he was related to Bull.

-- I'll be here all week.
   96. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:58 PM (#4462844)
I still want Peterson for the Pirates here.

-- MWE
   97. Gamingboy Posted: June 06, 2013 at 07:59 PM (#4462845)
When you've been alive 156 years it's hard to remember the year.


Doesn't look a day above 130.
   98. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 06, 2013 at 08:00 PM (#4462848)
With the slotting the way it is I don't think having that money to spend is that exciting. Holy crap I'm agreeing with Harold Reynolds but if you're going to spend $3 million on someone, get the best player on the board at #8.
   99. Willie Mayspedester Posted: June 06, 2013 at 08:01 PM (#4462849)
Austin Meadows, good face, need to see that girlfriend he's talking about.
   100. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2013 at 08:01 PM (#4462850)
Pirates take Austin Meadows. I can't complain about that one too much although I'd still rather have Peterson.

-- MWE
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