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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Thursday, July 17, 2014MLB, Fox release a joint statement about the lack of a Tony Gwynn tribute on Tuesday nightCalcaterra with the joint blowing statement.
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1. JRVJ Posted: July 17, 2014 at 10:22 AM (#4752634)Look, I am fairly sad that Tony Gwynn passed away, but of all the things in the world to get into a furor about...... this lack of a tribute is not one of them.
#FirstWorldProblems
Not that I care, but there's a distinction with Gwynn: he died young. And played recently.
But I'm glad they didn't want to single out any one individual, and so we never had to sit through them fellating Jeter.
HAHH HAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Derek Jeter - 84
Mike Trout - 38
Miguel Cabrera - 28
That's your top three.
Which one of them didn't know who Uehara was?!
Well Joe, as you know I started my career more than a decade before Derek Jeter played his first game. But one time in Walla Walla, as I was passed out in a haze after tying to get my Betamax to work, I had the vision of a perfect swing by a player in pinstripes. I didn't know whose swing it was, but the way he could inside out a ball, it was just revolutionary. I copied that swing as best I could, and it set me on my way to 3000 hits. Later in my career, playing in my second world series, the Yankees sent this young shortstop up to the plate. He dropped in a perfect single, right in front of me. That's when I knew! It was Deja Vu all over again. Now I had a name and a face to match to the swing. After the game I thanked Derek Jeter for all that he did for my career.
I assume that header was merely a joke about the lack of star status of those nine individuals, since it would be virtually impossible to identify players not known by the announcers.
Seriously, AG? If any True Yankee, let alone named Derek Jeter, dropped dead within one month of the ASG, do you really think MLB wouldn't acknowledge it? Heck, they'd probably carve the deceased's face into the grass behind home plate.
There was also one for Steinbrenner in 2010. He died the morning of the ASG.
They'd cancel the game, if not the rest of the season.
I guessed "not a San Diego Padre." Do I get half credit?
*In a related development, I suspect it's about to get dusty in here.
I guessed how to guess who it was, and now I know, but I don't think that wins me anything :)
In a bit of irony they decided to rename the All Star Game MVP after him for that year. The ironic part is that no one was actually given the award that year since the game ended in a tie. I assume that his name came up a few times though I don't remember.
As I noted in 22, yes he was.
I'm starting to think that A-Rod's year long ban was so that he would not selfishly take the attention away from Jeter's last season.
I assumed he was the same guy as Allen Watson, and was still kicking around. Lefty reliever and all.
They didn't honor Gary Carter, who was similarly great and in his 50s when he died, so it would be a slippery slope to honor Gwynn officially. But Fox could definitely have run a montage at some point.
Carter died in the offseason, so there's a little bit of difference there.
Yeah. And even if the timing had been the same just because they've made the same mistake in the past doesn't mean they should keep making it.
More generally I don't want a full on Oscars style musical montage or anything but it was awfully odd that he did not get mentioned.
Excellent idea. Maybe limit it to former All-Stars, which would still be a fairly large group.
Play it instead of subjecting fans to "God Bless America." The perfect plan.
Oops. Didn't realize you'd addressed that before I asked about it.
I'm not sure why you hate America, but I agree with your plan just the same.
Just "Horse With No Name."
Excellent idea. Maybe limit it to former All-Stars, which would still be a fairly large group.
The least cheesy tribute would be to emulate the PBS NewsHour salutes to the week's military casualties. Have a slowly changing slide show of the deceased players' photos on the Jumbotron, while the crowd remains silent. No music necessary----why does every tribute have to have some goddam marketing tie-in?
Was it Chris Berman?
Now, Tony Watson, I'd be suspicious if someone DID know who he was.
To highlight the "problem": Sure, Gwynn was more famous, younger, etc. But Kiner is also an HoFer and was a beloved broadcaster for decades. Zimmer was famous for having been in baseball for 70+ years and would have been instantly recognizable to pretty much any baseball fan. Coleman was another long-time beloved broadcaster. Etc.
That's the slippery slope. As soon as you honor Gwynn the question is raised "why didn't you honor this guy too?" Even when there's a good answer to that question (e.g. Gwynn vs. Cashen), nobody wants to give that answer because it sounds like an insult.
Day of, a couple of days before is different as everybody is still emotional. Did they do anything for Kile? Was there a playoff/WS tribute to Munson? What did they do for Clemente (opening day I suppose)?
Doesn't excuse not talking about him during the broadcast, doesn't make the "didn't want it to be about one person at the expense of others" excuse less laughable in this particular case.
I'm glad you said that. I thought it was just me.
You can read more about this in Part 4 of Fixing the Hereafter.
That's exactly the sort of model that should be used during the All-Star games. As usual, less is more when it comes to multiple tributes.
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