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Wednesday, December 28, 2011

MLB: Marlins’ new home to feature aquatic theme

Weeki Wachee your freakin’ head!

This is part of an MLB.com/Marlins.com exclusive series with team president David Samson, chronicling the progress and developments of the new retractable-roof stadium that is opening in 2012.

...Last Friday, two 450-gallon fish tanks were installed inside the wall behind the home-plate wall. They are positioned on the first- and third-base sides, and currently they are not filled with water.

The fish will be protected by shatter-proof glass, and the team has been ensured the fish will be safe.

“The reason this has never been done before, is not that it can’t be done,” Marlins president David Samson said. “It’s because no one thought to do it.”

...The aquariums will provide the fish with a home at the ballpark that is safe from crowd and stadium sound-system noises. And the glass is shatter-proof if it were to be struck by a baseball.

“As far as the fish are concerned, all I can tell you is we are working with people who work with fish for a living,” Samson said. “If we thought for one minute that the fish were in danger in any way, we wouldn’t have done it.”

...“In other ballparks, behind home plate, there was a lot of brick and limestone, or just green padding,” Samson said. “We just sat down and said, ‘What can we do with this part of the ballpark that’s never been done?’ And we just came up with the idea, ‘How about an aquarium, is that even possible?’”

Repoz Posted: December 28, 2011 at 04:24 PM | 41 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: December 28, 2011 at 04:56 PM (#4024362)
Don't we already know this?
   2. scotto Posted: December 28, 2011 at 05:10 PM (#4024375)
I wonder if they plan on fresh or salt water?

I assume they know what they're doing, but given how water conducts sound and how disturbed fish get by someone knocking on the glass I hope they're somewhat protected from foul balls/wild pitches/errant throws banging on the glass.

It's a cool idea.
   3. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 28, 2011 at 05:15 PM (#4024382)
May 12, 2012: Josh Thole becomes the first major-league player to be pecked to death by seagulls during a game.
   4. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: December 28, 2011 at 05:21 PM (#4024389)
@ 2 -- presumably, if the description "installed inside the wall behind the home-plate wall" is accurate and not just clunky writing, there's a gap between the actual wall and the tank itself. Or the glass is extremely thick.

Either way, my assumption is that the fish et al will be visible from the field-- couldn't that be distracting to the fielders? I mean, I know they're professionals, but if I was on the mound waiting for the catcher's signal and I saw a, I don't know, reef shark attack a trout, I'd stare.
   5. Endless Trash Posted: December 28, 2011 at 05:23 PM (#4024393)
“The reason this has never been done before, is not that it can’t be done,” Marlins president David Samson said. “It’s because no one thought to do it.”


Can't argue with that...
   6. JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler.... Posted: December 28, 2011 at 05:50 PM (#4024408)
This is going to be the LAMEST stadium of all time - I can't wait!
   7. The Yankee Clapper Posted: December 28, 2011 at 05:53 PM (#4024411)
What if they miscalculated, and a Bryce Harper foul ball shatters one of the tanks - with fish and water gushing on to the field. Do they have to call the game?
   8. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: December 28, 2011 at 05:59 PM (#4024414)
What if they miscalculated, and a Bryce Harper foul ball shatters one of the tanks - with fish and water gushing on to the field. Do they have to call the game?
"And now Harper is trying to save the fish... But he's being attacked by a reef shark! This is a dark day for baseball."
   9. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: December 28, 2011 at 06:07 PM (#4024422)
The original plans for Petco called for a tank full of priests behind home plate.
   10. Juan V Posted: December 28, 2011 at 06:16 PM (#4024432)
The home run feature has a water laced with acid theme.
   11. TerpNats Posted: December 28, 2011 at 06:24 PM (#4024440)
The San Francisco park at China Basin was going to have a "giants" theme -- Goliath, Wilt Chamberlain and the like -- but it all fell apart when officials couldn't decide whether to honor Allison Hayes or Daryl Hannah as the 50-foot woman.
   12. UCCF Posted: December 28, 2011 at 06:27 PM (#4024446)
Either way, my assumption is that the fish et al will be visible from the field-- couldn't that be distracting to the fielders?

That was my question - wouldn't fish swimming around behind the batter potentially create a distraction for the ball coming off the bat?

They should fill the tank with white fish when they're at bat, and dark-colored fish when they're in the field.
   13. Bob Evans Posted: December 28, 2011 at 06:29 PM (#4024449)
They should fill the tank with...dark-colored fish when they're in the field.

Or they could fill it with squids and octopodes and agitate them at appropriate times.
   14. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 28, 2011 at 06:36 PM (#4024457)
The fish will be protected by shatter-proof glass, and the team has been ensured the fish will be safe.

Is this really a sentence from a professionally written piece?

"ensured"? Really?
   15. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 28, 2011 at 06:38 PM (#4024458)
"And now Harper is trying to save the fish... But he's being attacked by a reef shark! This is a dark day for baseball."


"And heeeeeeere cooooooome the brine shrimp!"
   16. toratoratora Posted: December 28, 2011 at 06:38 PM (#4024459)
The more they talk, the more Ace Ventura this whole stadium gets. I freaking love it.
   17. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: December 28, 2011 at 07:15 PM (#4024477)
The aquarium is ####### awesome.

I doubt they will have anything resembling carnivorous fish. From mock-ups it doesn't really look like they will be at all distracting to the fielders, though could be wrong.
   18. Endless Trash Posted: December 28, 2011 at 07:21 PM (#4024481)
Hopefully they realize the fish need to be fed...and the tank cleaned once in awhile.
   19. Zonk qualifies as an invasive species Posted: December 28, 2011 at 07:24 PM (#4024488)
Pushawww.... The Wilpons have had the Mets underwater for some time now.
   20. DA Baracus Posted: December 28, 2011 at 07:26 PM (#4024489)
This is so pointless. Is anyone going to be more inclined to go to a game because of this? No, I didn't think so.
   21. Endless Trash Posted: December 28, 2011 at 07:27 PM (#4024493)

This is so pointless. Is anyone going to be more inclined to go to a game because of this? No, I didn't think so.


I kinda wanna go. I'm 5,000KM away, but still...
   22. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: December 28, 2011 at 07:35 PM (#4024498)
Enjoy your team, taxpayers of Miami!
   23. scotto Posted: December 28, 2011 at 07:48 PM (#4024514)
I doubt they will have anything resembling carnivorous fish.

There are very few truly vegetarian fish. Generally speaking if it's big enough to fit in a fish's mouth then in it will go if the fish can catch it. Ask anyone who's had live bearers in their tank.

A 450 gallon tank isn't that big, it's about 60 cubic feet. So maybe 10 ft long, 2 ft wide and 3 ft tall. I doubt any but the most eagle-eyed infielder would be able to discern what any fish was doing from their position in the field unless they put a couple of humungous fish like Jack Dempseys or Oscars in there.

Edit: And yeah, I hope they contract out the fish-keeping.
   24. Swedish Chef Posted: December 28, 2011 at 07:48 PM (#4024515)
Is anyone going to be more inclined to go to a game because of this?

Troy McClure.
   25. valuearbitrageur Posted: December 28, 2011 at 07:56 PM (#4024525)
If you had told me that a MLB team was about to do something supremely dumb in their stadium, I would have snap guessed "Marlins!".
   26. DA Baracus Posted: December 28, 2011 at 07:58 PM (#4024529)
I kinda wanna go. I'm 5,000KM away, but still...


Why? You'd have to be sitting right next to the aquarium for it to have any value to you. Just go to an aquarium, where you'll have a better (and cheaper) fish viewing experience.

Troy McClure.


Winner.
   27. Guapo Posted: December 28, 2011 at 08:02 PM (#4024533)
Is this really a sentence from a professionally written piece?


My personal favorite was:

With the stadium sitting in the shadows of the Atlantic Ocean, the organization feels it is only natural to display a couple of aquariums.
   28. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 28, 2011 at 08:10 PM (#4024542)
Yes, the Atlantic Ocean looms over the stadium. I hope the Army Corps of Engineers built those dams strong.
   29. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: December 28, 2011 at 08:26 PM (#4024553)
Just go to an aquarium, where you'll have a better (and cheaper) fish viewing experience.


Aquaria are expensive. The Shedd Aquarium in Chicago has a ticket price of $34.95.
   30. Guapo Posted: December 28, 2011 at 08:27 PM (#4024556)
...“In other ballparks, behind home plate, there was a lot of brick and limestone, or just green padding,” Samson said. “We just sat down and said, ‘What can we do with this part of the ballpark that’s never been done?’ And we just came up with the idea, ‘How about an aquarium, is that even possible?’”


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   31. DA Baracus Posted: December 28, 2011 at 08:37 PM (#4024558)
Haven't been to an aquarium recently, have you? The Shedd Aquarium in Chicago has a ticket price of $34.95.


Yes, I have been to an aquarium recently. $35 is significantly cheaper than the seats right by the aquarium will go for (not to mention you get actual variety of exhibits at an aquarium and $35 is not a lot more than the cheapest ticket at the stadium will be), and if you don't have those seats then the aquarium is pretty much useless. It provides no value if you are sitting in the outfield, upper deck or down the baselines. So again I ask, is anyone going to be more inclined to go to a baseball game because of this? It's two fairly small aquariums in the most expensive part of the ball park. After a few rows you likely won't even be able to see it so long as there are people in the seats. You won't be able to see the fish on TV either. They're just there to be there and to sound cool in press releases.
   32. Tripon Posted: December 28, 2011 at 08:45 PM (#4024561)
This is how you waste 2.4 billion dollars.
   33. scotto Posted: December 28, 2011 at 09:11 PM (#4024575)
Aquaria are expensive. The Shedd Aquarium in Chicago has a ticket price of $34.95.

It is, but it's a pretty great place. The Amazon Rising and the Living Reef exhibits alone justify that expense. I've been a member for 8 years and it's worth every single penny. But pretty much all the museums and the Brookfield Zoo are fairly pricey to non-members. The Lincoln Park zoo is free, of course.

The Chicago library has free passes, you can reserve them in advance. I think, they used to anyway.
   34. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 28, 2011 at 09:18 PM (#4024578)
The San Francisco park at China Basin was going to have a "giants" theme -- Goliath, Wilt Chamberlain and the like -- but it all fell apart when officials couldn't decide whether to honor Allison Hayes or Daryl Hannah as the 50-foot woman.


Fortunately, Daryl Hannah will probably find a home in one of the fish tanks. Tom Hanks will of course buy season tickets.
   35. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: December 29, 2011 at 03:16 AM (#4024850)
This is great. I hope it works. Even if it fails, it'll be glorious.

I'm just glad the Marlins didn't go with an overdone retro ballpark scheme. Those are played out and make even less sense in a place like Miami where there was never an "original" retro ballpark to begin with.
   36. Swoboda is freedom Posted: December 29, 2011 at 04:53 AM (#4024899)
The fish will be protected by shatter-proof glass, and the team has been ensured the fish will be safe.

Unless that crazy Riggs comes to a game with his partner Murtaugh.
   37. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: December 29, 2011 at 05:30 AM (#4024913)
#33

I've been to both the Brookfield Zoo and the Lincoln Park Zoo on separate trips to Chicago, and I actually liked the Lincoln Park Zoo better. Is this normal? Reasonable?
   38. scotto Posted: December 29, 2011 at 04:01 PM (#4025074)
I've been to both the Brookfield Zoo and the Lincoln Park Zoo on separate trips to Chicago, and I actually liked the Lincoln Park Zoo better. Is this normal? Reasonable?

I'm not one to say what's normal or reasonable. LPZ is more compact, and it's free. Parking's a #####, but that's the neighborhood. You can easily sally forth from there to eat, at Brookfield you're pretty much stuck with their overpriced eats unless you bring your own. Brookfield has beer, however.

Brookfield's got more exhibits and a lot more ground to cover. If you're a member the costs go down really quickly, especially since membership confers free parking.

Rating them on exhibits, I'd say they rank about the same on primates. Both have quality great ape exhibits, although the LPZ one is more intimate. This may translate to more stress for the apes, but I haven't asked them. LPZ lost its lemur exhibit along with other lesser primates a few years ago, maybe about the time that Jim and Dan set up the fora. Coincidence? Anyway, demerits to LPZ. Having the very human-interested white cheeked gibbon on prominent display is a plus for LPZ.

Both zoos have had trouble with elephants. Brookfield's got an edge with other charismatic megafauna, and their dolphin show is pretty great. I think Brookfield stresses evolutionary niche and conservation more than LPZ.

I'm happy at either, and a member at Brookfield. Such is life with a 9 year old. I'd say we're at the aquarium and the zoo once a month on average. It's nice to live in a city with this kind of stuff so readily available.
   39. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: December 29, 2011 at 04:08 PM (#4025081)
With this, baseball moves ever closer to the "Naked Gun" Diamondvision blooper reel. How can this be a bad thing?
   40. Bourbon Samurai, what price fettucine? Posted: December 29, 2011 at 04:08 PM (#4025082)
I have never been to Miami but this makes me want to take a trip.
   41. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 29, 2011 at 08:21 PM (#4025345)
Both have quality great ape exhibits, although the LPZ one is more intimate.


And by "intimate," he means "feces-flinging."
   42. Flynn Posted: December 29, 2011 at 08:29 PM (#4025351)
I never thought a new stadium would so perfectly encapsulate living in Florida.

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