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MLB mock draft on June 2 | MLB.com

Last time to get mocked.

Jim Furtado Posted: June 03, 2019 at 11:53 AM | 34 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. JJ1986 Posted: June 03, 2019 at 08:49 PM (#5847975)
There have been only 2 pitchers picked in the first 16 guys.
   2. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: June 03, 2019 at 08:54 PM (#5847976)
i didn't follow the leadup to the draft at all this year, but i'm gonna out on a limb and say the phillies made a mistake by not drafting that chewbaca looking guy from that whatever junior college.

that guy could be closing games for the phillies by september (well, if not for typical service time bullshit, and also teams generally being complete pussies about promoting players aggressively)
   3. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: June 03, 2019 at 08:56 PM (#5847977)
The Nationals first rounder is 6'8" and 250 lbs? HFS that is a big dude
   4. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: June 03, 2019 at 08:57 PM (#5847979)
The Nationals first rounder is 6'8" and 250 lbs? HFS that is a big dude
(and that's the guy i was talking about in post #2)
   5. Howie Menckel Posted: June 03, 2019 at 09:04 PM (#5847982)
one mlb.com got the first 9 picks exactly right - and 10 out of 11 - which seems impossible (the getting the team/players right, not roughly who the top 10 are).
   6. RobDeer Posted: June 03, 2019 at 09:04 PM (#5847983)
I thought Fangraphs had an interesting write-up on the 6'8" 250lb RHP re. his body type
Jackson Rutledge, RHP, San Jacinto JC (TX):
Rutledge has power stuff that you could argue is among the best in the class, but there’s little precedent for a prospect who throws this hard, with this type of body (Rutledge is 6-foot-8, 250), having sustained big league success; we don’t feel comfortable comparing anyone to CC Sabathia, who has accumulated the second-most WAR of any big league pitcher this century. Better, recent prospect examples include Sal Romano, Tyler Kolek and Nate Pearson. That’s a wide range of quality. You could argue Alek Manoah also belongs in this group. Not all teams are scared off by the body type, but it sounds like some teams would move either one of these two bigger pitchers toward the back of their first round college arm rankings because of it.
   7. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: June 03, 2019 at 09:07 PM (#5847984)
Rutledge has power stuff that you could argue is among the best in the class, but there’s little precedent for a prospect who throws this hard, with this type of body (Rutledge is 6-foot-8, 250), having sustained big league success; we don’t feel comfortable comparing anyone to CC Sabathia, who has accumulated the second-most WAR of any big league pitcher this century. Better, recent prospect examples include Sal Romano, Tyler Kolek and Nate Pearson. That’s a wide range of quality. You could argue Alek Manoah also belongs in this group. Not all teams are scared off by the body type, but it sounds like some teams would move either one of these two bigger pitchers toward the back of their first round college arm rankings because of it.
i guess we're still buying jeans.


   8. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: June 03, 2019 at 09:09 PM (#5847985)
Rutledge has power stuff that you could argue is among the best in the class, but there’s little precedent for a prospect who throws this hard, with this type of body (Rutledge is 6-foot-8, 250), having sustained big league success; we don’t feel comfortable comparing anyone to CC Sabathia, who has accumulated the second-most WAR of any big league pitcher this century. Better, recent prospect examples include Sal Romano, Tyler Kolek and Nate Pearson. That’s a wide range of quality. You could argue Alek Manoah also belongs in this group. Not all teams are scared off by the body type, but it sounds like some teams would move either one of these two bigger pitchers toward the back of their first round college arm rankings because of it.
fwiw, his body doesn't scare me at all, but his arm is going to have a bunch of scars by the time he turns 30. the arm action in his pitching motion is the worst that i've seen in a first round pick in the last decade.
   9. PreservedFish Posted: June 03, 2019 at 09:23 PM (#5847988)
there’s little precedent for a prospect who throws this hard, with this type of body (Rutledge is 6-foot-8, 250), having sustained big league success; we don’t feel comfortable comparing anyone to CC Sabathia, who has accumulated the second-most WAR of any big league pitcher this century. Better, recent prospect examples include Sal Romano, Tyler Kolek and Nate Pearson. That’s a wide range of quality.

A lot of stupid in this excerpt.
   10. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: June 03, 2019 at 09:24 PM (#5847989)
Rutledge has power stuff that you could argue is among the best in the class, but there’s little precedent for a prospect who throws this hard, with this type of body (Rutledge is 6-foot-8, 250), having sustained big league success; we don’t feel comfortable comparing anyone to CC Sabathia, who has accumulated the second-most WAR of any big league pitcher this century. Better, recent prospect examples include Sal Romano, Tyler Kolek and Nate Pearson. That’s a wide range of quality. You could argue Alek Manoah also belongs in this group. Not all teams are scared off by the body type, but it sounds like some teams would move either one of these two bigger pitchers toward the back of their first round college arm rankings because of it.
also, people underestimate how much his body can improve once he gets into a professional training environment. that's true for everyone who gets drafted this week, but it's kind of especially true for someone who'll come out of community college with a 7-figure bank account.
   11. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 03, 2019 at 10:06 PM (#5847993)

There have been only 2 pitchers picked in the first 16 guys.


It is supposed to be one of the weakest pitcher drafts in 20 years. Some good bats at the top though.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: June 03, 2019 at 11:40 PM (#5848007)
I know they picked it up through a trade but I'm tickled that the Yanks had a competitive balance pick.
   13. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: June 04, 2019 at 12:03 AM (#5848009)
HS SS Bobby Witt Jr goes #2 overall to the Royals. Man, I hope their 1B is like 8 feet tall if Jr got Sr's control.
   14. My name is RMc and I feel extremely affected Posted: June 04, 2019 at 07:32 AM (#5848027)
It is supposed to be one of the weakest pitcher drafts in 20 years.

So weak, even the Tigers didn't draft a pitcher in the first round, something they've done every year since 1871.
   15. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 04, 2019 at 10:40 AM (#5848097)
The Rockies took a switch-hitting first baseman out of UCLA named Michael Toglia. Purple Row describes him as more of a doubles hitter than a home run hitter, which is not exactly what I'd be looking for out of a first baseman in Coors Field.
   16. SoSH U at work Posted: June 04, 2019 at 10:42 AM (#5848099)

The Rockies took a switch-hitting first baseman out of UCLA named Michael Toglia. Purple Row describes him as more of a doubles hitter than a home run hitter, which is not exactly what I'd be looking for out of a first baseman in Coors Field.


Doesn't that describe Todd Helton?

   17. PreservedFish Posted: June 04, 2019 at 10:58 AM (#5848109)
I don't think there's such thing as a doubles hitter anymore.

Seriously, there are like a dozen good hitters that you'd call doubles hitters, most of them little guys and infielders. Anyone with a sliver of ability can hit 20+ homeruns now.
   18. Panik on the streets of Flushing! (Trout! Trout!) Posted: June 04, 2019 at 11:27 AM (#5848134)
Seriously, there are like a dozen good hitters that you'd call doubles hitters, most of them little guys and infielders. Anyone with a sliver of ability can hit 20+ homeruns now.


Christian Yelich was the quintessential doubles hitter until he turned into Barry Bonds.
   19. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 04, 2019 at 11:49 AM (#5848160)
The Rockies took a switch-hitting first baseman out of UCLA named Michael Toglia. Purple Row describes him as more of a doubles hitter than a home run hitter, which is not exactly what I'd be looking for out of a first baseman in Coors Field.


FWIW, Brian Crawford's translated numbers for his college hitting suggest that he'll be pretty good.
   20. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: June 04, 2019 at 11:55 AM (#5848167)
18--Yelich was that guy until ASB of 2018 when he said he adjusted his stance which led to the big jump in dingers.
   21. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 04, 2019 at 12:02 PM (#5848176)

FWIW, Brian Crawford's translated numbers for his college hitting suggest that he'll be pretty good.


Thanks, I'm glad to hear that.
   22. Panik on the streets of Flushing! (Trout! Trout!) Posted: June 04, 2019 at 12:34 PM (#5848203)
18--Yelich was that guy until ASB of 2018 when he said he adjusted his stance which led to the big jump in dingers.


Interesting I didn't hear that was the adjustment he made. I just assumed it was something to do with hitting more fly balls.
   23. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: June 04, 2019 at 12:47 PM (#5848217)
22--He didn't focus on launch angle in fact Yelich sounds a bit cranky calling launch angle a trend. He had made some incremental changes in his stance at least per interviews with Yelich.
   24. Panik on the streets of Flushing! (Trout! Trout!) Posted: June 04, 2019 at 01:00 PM (#5848227)
He had made some incremental changes in his stance at least per interviews with Yelich.


I assume the incremental changes he made resulted in him hitting more fly balls though, because wasn't he previously a guy who hit a ton of ground balls?
   25. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: June 04, 2019 at 01:20 PM (#5848240)
24--From memory and not checking Fangraphs or anything I believe at least in 2018 it was that he had a crazy high success rate of homers to fly balls. So he did not have a dramatic increase in percentage of fly balls struck. Just that I believe 48% of his fly balls after the break were home runs. But THIS season the composition of his hit profile HAS changed with more fly balls against ground balls.
   26. Panik on the streets of Flushing! (Trout! Trout!) Posted: June 04, 2019 at 03:28 PM (#5848333)
24--From memory and not checking Fangraphs or anything I believe at least in 2018 it was that he had a crazy high success rate of homers to fly balls. So he did not have a dramatic increase in percentage of fly balls struck. Just that I believe 48% of his fly balls after the break were home runs. But THIS season the composition of his hit profile HAS changed with more fly balls against ground balls.


Thank you, that makes sense :)
   27. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: June 04, 2019 at 03:55 PM (#5848355)
26--Np. Even Yelich seems a bit amazed at how things have played out.
   28. Davo Posted: June 04, 2019 at 04:06 PM (#5848370)
“Adley Rutschman”??? Oof that is not a good baseball name. They’re gonna regret that pick for sure. I’d be shocked if he ever even makes it to the Majors with a name like that.
   29. Davo Posted: June 04, 2019 at 04:06 PM (#5848371)
Let’s look at previous #1 picks:

Carlos Correa: basically perfect, got the superhero alliteration to boot
Gerrit Cole: Bad, Dumb first name, hard to spell and pronounce. “Trevor Bauer” was the smarter move. Got that V, name rhymes with “power,” etc.
Bryce Harper: no complaints
Stephen Strasburg: alliteration saves him
Tim Beckham: baaaaad. Tim? Sounds small and weak. No good Tims in sports history. You got Buster Posey, Pedro Alvarez and Kyle Shipworth right there!
David Price: basically perfect again.
Luke Hochevar: ugggggggh Holy #### this sucks. All-time terrible name. “Evan Longoria” is there!
Justin Upton: Love it, it almost rhymes.
Matt Bush: not good. “Homer Bailey” has gotta be the guy.
Delmon Young: #### kinda name is “Delmon”? I’m going with “Kyle Sleeth” easy.
Bryan Bullington: absolutely perfect name, perfect pick.
Joe Mauer: Wonderful.
Adrian Gonzalez: Fine, though there’s an all-timer later on in “Rocco Baldelli.”
   30. Panik on the streets of Flushing! (Trout! Trout!) Posted: June 04, 2019 at 04:10 PM (#5848373)
26--Np. Even Yelich seems a bit amazed at how things have played out.


It's hard not to root for Yelich. I don't have much of a dog in the NL Central fight but I do find myself pulling for the Crew.
   31. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: June 04, 2019 at 04:15 PM (#5848379)
30--I know we all think players on our teams are awesome but if you follow his social media and stuff Yelich really does across as legit. And on the field he has this impressive combination of getting excited at fun stuff but when say a pitcher comes hard inside Yelich just kind of leans back and while the catcher is returning the ball he steps out just smiling. I know if I was the pitcher that would kind of psych me out. Like what is up with this dude?
   32. Jose is an Absurd Time Cube Posted: June 04, 2019 at 04:17 PM (#5848381)
And of course Yelich had a small role on Magnum PI over the winter!
   33. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 04, 2019 at 04:20 PM (#5848384)
"Casey Mize" is a contender, combining two great old Hall of Fame names. "Chipper Jones" is great; if you've got something like Jones, you have to take advantage of it with a distinctive first name or nickname. You don't want two blah names like "Paul Wilson" or "Alex Rodriguez."

"Tim Belcher" has got to be the worst.
   34. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: June 04, 2019 at 04:56 PM (#5848408)
"Tim Belcher" has got to be the worst.
"george pants-shitter" isn't far off.

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