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Sunday, April 27, 2014

MLB: Nationals lose Bryce Harper to disabled list with thumb sprain

Oh for crying out loud…

WASHINGTON—The Nationals on Sunday placed outfielder Bryce Harper on the 15-day disabled list, retroactive to April 26, with a sprained left thumb and recalled outfielder Steven Souza Jr. from Triple-A Syracuse.

Harper becomes the fourth player—Wilson Ramos, Ryan Zimmerman and Scott Hairston are the others—to be placed on the DL this month by the Nationals.

Harper hurt the thumb in the bottom of the third inning Friday against the Padres. With the bases loaded, Harper hit a three-run triple to right-center off left-hander Robbie Erlin. As Harper was sliding head-first, he jammed the thumb into the base. Harper later scored on a single by Jose Lobaton.

Harper went 2-for-2 with four RBIs in the game before being replaced by Nate McLouth in the fifth inning.

Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: April 27, 2014 at 11:54 AM | 36 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Tom (and his broom) Posted: April 27, 2014 at 01:48 PM (#4695307)
Sliding head first, how many injuries related to that have we seen this year?
   2. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: April 27, 2014 at 01:56 PM (#4695309)
Clearly this was God's belated answer to his loafing down to first.
   3. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: April 27, 2014 at 02:12 PM (#4695316)
Sliding head first, how many injuries related to that have we seen this year?
There's a world's worth of difference between a headfirst slide into third under the circumstances here and a headfirst slide into FIRST. Harper's slide wasn't really stupid in any way, unless you just think that ALL headfirst slides are impermissible under ALL circumstances.
   4. TerpNats Posted: April 27, 2014 at 02:58 PM (#4695343)
This season looks more like 2013 every day.
   5. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: April 27, 2014 at 05:14 PM (#4695413)
McLouth takes over for him in the lineup... Tyler Moore on the 25-man, I'm guessing?

The biggest reason the Nats struggled last year was that when their starting position players got injured, their bench was just completely worthless. They did a lot this winter to try to correct that (bringing in McLouth, Lobaton and Hairston; holding on to Espinosa and Laroche)--let's see if it makes a difference. They need them to contribute at least something over replacement level to catch the Braves this time.
   6. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: April 27, 2014 at 05:24 PM (#4695426)
How many injuries is this for Harper? Can the Nats really afford to have someone this fragile as the face of their franchise?
   7. boteman Posted: April 27, 2014 at 05:49 PM (#4695440)
Taylor Jordan reportedly was pitching with a "bad case of the flu", which supposedly explains his sub-par outing. Danny Espinosa got plunked on the knee and tried to stay in the game, but came out a short time later.

I'm hoping Murphy pulls out all the stops and all 8 starting position players end up on the DL at once to maximize this comedy theater.
   8. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: April 27, 2014 at 06:03 PM (#4695454)
A faster, more athletic Nick Johnson?
   9. valuearbitrageur Posted: April 27, 2014 at 06:05 PM (#4695455)
Clearly this was God's belated answer to his loafing down to first.


Harper isn't hurt that badly, he can still play. Matt Williams actually is suspending him for quitting on an inside the park homer.
   10. Cooper Nielson Posted: April 27, 2014 at 10:36 PM (#4695534)
A faster, more athletic Nick Johnson?

Yeesh, that would be every fantasy player's nightmare. Too tempting not to draft (more so than Nick the Stick), but just as likely to give you 30 games as 130.

Interesting:

Nick Johnson, Washington (+ Montreal) years only: .280/.408/.460, 129 OPS+ (2041 PA)
Bryce Harper, entire Washington career to date: .273/.352/.476, 125 OPS+ (1185 PA)
Best two years by WAR: Johnson (5.0, 3.6), Harper (5.1, 3.5)

Obviously Harper's doing it at a ridiculously young age, so it's not a fair comparison, but I'm a bit surprised how close they are in terms of performance when you consider their reputations. Harper's already been to two All-Star Games, Johnson never made one.

Though I guess Johnson was a bit of a phenom in his own right -- at age 20, in a full season (132 games) in AA, he hit .345 with a .525 OBP... and then he missed the entire next season with an injury. Welcome to Nick Johnson's career.
   11. JE (Jason) Posted: April 27, 2014 at 11:52 PM (#4695560)
Earlier today, I heard one of the hosts on MLB Network Radio mention that some baserunners wear padded mittens but I can't recall spotting any. Does anyone know how prevalent this is?
   12. Greg K Posted: April 28, 2014 at 12:04 AM (#4695565)
Earlier today, I heard one of the hosts on MLB Network Radio mention that some baserunners wear padded mittens but I can't recall spotting any. Does anyone know how prevalent this is?

Rajai Davis used to wear what was essentially an oven mitt when he was with the Jays. I assume he still does in Detroit.
   13. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: April 28, 2014 at 07:04 AM (#4695604)
Health is a skill. Bryce Harper doesn't have it. As a baseball fan I find this sorely disappointing.

Who knows though, there's still plenty of time for Harper to get on the Paul Molitor career track (preferably without the drug addiction).
   14. Rants Mulliniks Posted: April 28, 2014 at 08:22 AM (#4695618)
#13 - Sad to say, I think you're right. Brett Lawrie appears to have the same problem.
   15. Chris Fluit Posted: April 28, 2014 at 08:27 AM (#4695620)
Brett Gardner was wearing a base running mitt the other night. It allowed him to slide head first into second on a steal while protecting his hand from injuries. However, the "oven mitt" wouldn't have helped Harper. He injured himself on a triple and was still wearing batting gloves.
   16. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 28, 2014 at 08:47 AM (#4695626)
Will he be having Tommy John surgery?
   17. boteman Posted: April 28, 2014 at 12:18 PM (#4695834)
I haven't seen him this season, but Emilio Bonifacio has been wearing an oven mitt since messing up his thumb pretty bad in 2012-ish.

And in more good news, Harper goes to 15-day DL and is seeing a doctor in Cleveland. Nobody in D.C. is paying attention because...Bullets.
   18. alilisd Posted: April 28, 2014 at 03:14 PM (#4696004)
Harper's slide wasn't really stupid in any way


Other than sliding headfirst. While "stupid" is not the way I would categorize it, sliding headfirst is clearly much more of an injury risk than feet first. Fingers and thumbs are hurt, wrists, shoulders, and less frequently the arm or elbow. Sliding feet first you'll see an ankle injury, but never any toe injuries, and I've never heard of a hip injury, though there are occasional leg and knee injuries. It's simply much easier to get hurt going headfirst than feet first.
   19. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: April 28, 2014 at 03:41 PM (#4696030)
I'm pretty sure Bryce Harper in particular is going to get hurt no matter how he slides or if he stays upright, to be fair.
   20. jingoist Posted: April 28, 2014 at 04:47 PM (#4696077)
Paste, I believe you are 100% correct.
This kid only knows one speed. whether running the bases or running into walls chasing fly balls.
I don't foresee a Don Zimmer in the making but Nick Johnson might be an apt comparison.
   21. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: April 28, 2014 at 05:01 PM (#4696087)
Pete Reiser.
   22. Zach Posted: April 28, 2014 at 05:34 PM (#4696118)
This is why you don't try to get in Harper's head about hustling. He's already got that voice in his head. What he needs is a cynical voice that tells him to concede the play and beat 'em tomorrow.
   23. boteman Posted: April 28, 2014 at 05:52 PM (#4696134)
@Ken_Rosenthal: Source confirms report by @keithlaw: Nationals’ Harper needs thumb surgery and likely is out until July.

Oh, happy happy, joy joy!! Who's next??
   24. JE (Jason) Posted: April 28, 2014 at 06:16 PM (#4696147)
Keith Law pointed out that this was the same injury that affected Pedroia last season, leading to his lowest-ever slugging percentage.
   25. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: April 28, 2014 at 06:22 PM (#4696150)
Dammit
   26. boteman Posted: April 28, 2014 at 06:58 PM (#4696160)
Apparently it's also the same thumb that Harper injured in college. So that might make this one worse as it aggravated it, or maybe it doesn't change it one lick.

The Nationals still need Desmond, LaRoche, and Werth to go on the DL to complete the starter set.
   27. alilisd Posted: April 28, 2014 at 07:03 PM (#4696161)
I'm pretty sure Bryce Harper in particular is going to get hurt no matter how he slides or if he stays upright, to be fair.


I sincerely hope this changes in the near future. It would be a shame if he were to have a shortened, injury plagued career rather than coming closer to realizing his considerable potential.
   28. Al Kaline Trio Posted: April 28, 2014 at 07:42 PM (#4696177)
   29. Yoenis Cespedes, Baseball Savant Posted: April 28, 2014 at 08:04 PM (#4696192)
John Kruk said that the thumb injury might be a blessing in disguise for Bryce Harper because he might find his passion for the game.

WHAT A ####### #######.
   30. JE (Jason) Posted: April 28, 2014 at 08:12 PM (#4696196)
John Kruk said that the thumb injury might be a blessing in disguise for Bryce Harper because he might find his passion for the game.

April (28th) Fools, right? Right???
   31. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: April 28, 2014 at 10:04 PM (#4696301)
John Kruk said


There's your problem.
   32. Spahn Insane Posted: April 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM (#4696322)
Yeah, whatever else might be said about Harper, he sure doesn't seem to me to lack passion for the game.
   33. Russ Posted: April 29, 2014 at 05:51 AM (#4696394)
John Kruk said that the thumb injury might be a blessing in disguise for Bryce Harper because he might find his passion for the game.


That's a clown conjecture, bro.
   34. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 29, 2014 at 06:07 AM (#4696395)
It's become clear that John Kruk's testicle underwent surgery to have Kruk removed.
   35. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 29, 2014 at 06:30 AM (#4696400)
How many injuries is this for Harper? Can the Nats really afford to have someone this fragile as the face of their franchise?


I'm not really sure what you would suggest they do about it. It's not like he makes any money yet. They can't sign Mike Trout, and they have plenty of people they can focus on if they need to in the marketing.
   36. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 29, 2014 at 08:38 AM (#4696419)
Keith Law pointed out that this was the same injury that affected Pedroia last season, leading to his lowest-ever slugging percentage.


To add to the bad news surgery and an off-season of rest has not caused a return of that power in 2014 so far. The positive for Harper is that he is having the surgery immediately rather than playing an entire season first so hopefully he can make a full recovery.

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