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Wednesday, October 25, 2017

‘MLB on Fox’ and Alex Rodriguez’s Path to Redemption - The Ringer

Here Anthony Masterson, the MLB on Fox researcher whom Shah-Rais calls Human Siri, interjects. “He’s incredibly aggressive,” he says. “He’s got more swings on the first pitch than all of baseball!”

“If you look at metrics,” Rodriguez concludes, “there’s no way a guy who is hitting .579 this postseason should have two walks. If that was Papi? Or Big Hurt? They would have, what, 12 or 14 walks.”

“This is good, guys,” says Jonathan Kaplan, one of the show’s producers. “Put that in.”

Jim Furtado Posted: October 25, 2017 at 03:28 PM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 25, 2017 at 04:15 PM (#5562086)
One reason A-Rod's rehabilitation has worked, at least from my perspective, is that he really does like baseball as a fan. Another reason is that regardless of his own #######, he got royally jobbed by MLB with that suspension.
   2. The Good Face Posted: October 25, 2017 at 04:53 PM (#5562127)
One reason A-Rod's rehabilitation has worked, at least from my perspective, is that he really does like baseball as a fan.


Right. Say what you will about the guy, but he's super passionate about baseball and that really shines through.

That was a good article and it's interesting because it reinforces what people have been saying about A-Rod for over a decade; he really just wanted to be liked. It's kind of ironic that an inner circle HOF-worthy career didn't accomplish that for him but being a studio talking head did.
   3. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: October 25, 2017 at 04:58 PM (#5562131)
A-Rod is must watch TV on the postgame. I had no idea he had this in him. I love the dude now. He has great passion, knowledge, and is oddly self aware compared to when he was a player.
   4. Howie Menckel Posted: October 25, 2017 at 05:03 PM (#5562139)
I can't believe it's the same guy, either.

The percentage of his comments that are not just blather are amazingly high. and I don't even usually watch pre-game or post-game shows in any sport.
   5. asinwreck Posted: October 25, 2017 at 06:17 PM (#5562162)
Can he replace Joe Buck on all Fox baseball broadcasts?
   6. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 25, 2017 at 06:31 PM (#5562168)
Fox has tilted so heavily toward banter among its analysts that their observations are in danger of being obscured. They'd do well to ratchet that back a bit.
   7. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 25, 2017 at 06:34 PM (#5562171)
Can he replace Joe Buck on all Fox baseball broadcasts?

Might not fit in the booth. From what I've seen, broadcast booths don't seem to be very deep at all.
   8. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: October 25, 2017 at 06:42 PM (#5562174)
Fox has tilted so heavily toward banter among its analysts that their observations are in danger of being obscured. They'd do well to ratchet that back a bit.


I know it's hard to believe, but you aren't the target audience.
   9. eric Posted: October 25, 2017 at 09:38 PM (#5562319)
I wonder what effect being liked might have on his HOF chances?
   10. No longer interested in this website Posted: October 25, 2017 at 11:02 PM (#5562444)
This postseason is ARod's signature moment.
   11. Lars6788 Posted: October 26, 2017 at 02:37 AM (#5562726)
I wonder what effect being liked might have on his HOF chances?


I think there would be less objection for his eventual election if he becomes a bigger celebrity and face to all sorts of things unrelated to baseball - though it maybe a moot point if the only one still holding grudges [rightly or wrongly] would be the older generation of baseball writers still wanting to make him pay for the mistakes he has made.
   12. RMc Has Bizarre Ideas to Fix Baseball Posted: October 26, 2017 at 07:13 AM (#5562732)
Might not fit in the booth. From what I've seen, broadcast booths don't seem to be very deep at all.

There'll never be another A-Rod thread on Primer that doesn't feature a horse/centaur joke ever again, will there?
   13. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 26, 2017 at 08:32 AM (#5562741)
The Preakness is our weakness.
   14. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: October 26, 2017 at 09:42 AM (#5562764)
There'll never be another A-Rod thread on Primer that doesn't feature a horse/centaur joke ever again, will there?

Neigh.
   15. wjones Posted: October 26, 2017 at 10:18 AM (#5562792)
Not that crazy about some of the other guys in the pre/post game team, but thankful to God that none of them are Pete Rose.
   16. Bote Man is no David Posted: October 26, 2017 at 01:42 PM (#5562999)
I cut the cord almost 5 years ago, so could could someone give me a thumbnail synopsis of why EVERYONE is raving about A-Rod?

In any case, if he's as good as everyone says he is then he should make hay while the Sun shines.
   17. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: October 26, 2017 at 01:48 PM (#5563005)
I cut the cord almost 5 years ago, so could could someone give me a thumbnail synopsis of why EVERYONE is raving about A-Rod?


Telegenic, smooth delivery, in a word: he's polished. He's also well prepared, has done his research, and speaks with passion. He's not afraid to laugh at himself and seems to realize that a lot of people disliked him for being too self obsessed, which he parodies at times.
   18. shoewizard Posted: October 26, 2017 at 08:42 PM (#5563268)
Bote Man , i would check out all the clips in TFA as a starting point
   19. Bote Man is no David Posted: October 26, 2017 at 09:09 PM (#5563276)
I inadvertently read the first few pages of the linked article just now, but it rambled all over the place, seeming more to be a "day in the life" recounting and I'm not in the mood for that. I just never get to see the pre-game nor post-game shows any more and consider myself better off for it. Now I read all the fawning over A-Rod and with so many disparate folks praising him that I have to wonder what I'm missing.

Maybe I'll hook up the aerial to the old Admiral console TV and warm up the tubes for Game 3 to see what all the fuss is about; I just learned that the World's Series is broadcast over the airwaves--FOR FREE. Hard to believe they'd pass up all that subscription money, but there it is.
   20. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 26, 2017 at 09:18 PM (#5563279)
I just learned that the World's Series is broadcast over the airwaves--FOR FREE. Hard to believe they'd pass up all that subscription money, but there it is.

Well, not exactly - you may notice that a rather large percentage of the broadcast is devoted not to the base ball, but to the promotion of various and sundry goods, services and bad Fox TV shows.
   21. Endless Trash Posted: October 27, 2017 at 02:34 AM (#5563337)
Most ex players are incredibly likeable when they first enter the booth. Then they get sent to some sort of broadcaster brainwash camp where they learn to be dull and speak only in bland cliches.
   22. Lassus Posted: October 27, 2017 at 08:30 AM (#5563363)
and bad Fox TV shows.

I never watched it, did that Buck/forgotten TV montage include Firefly?
   23. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: October 27, 2017 at 08:37 AM (#5563366)
I think he'd make a fine major league manager some day. Perhaps some day soon.
   24. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: October 27, 2017 at 09:12 AM (#5563377)
A-Rod always struck me as a guy who wanted desperately to be liked but didn't know how to go about it. I suspect jealousy of various sorts both from fans and players played into that and one of the things that works with that panel is it is all great players who achieved success. He's surrounded by guys who have one if not both of Hall of Fame and World Champion credentials as well as having made the money to not be jealous of him. That allows ARod the opportunity to relax and just talk about baseball which he is obviously very very good at.
   25. PreservedFish Posted: October 27, 2017 at 09:18 AM (#5563379)
Most ex players are incredibly likeable when they first enter the booth. Then they get sent to some sort of broadcaster brainwash camp where they learn to be dull and speak only in bland cliches.


This is accurate. I think two things are happening. 1, we get bored, and 2, they get bored. It's not possible to fill dozens or hundreds of hours, year after year, with fresh insights.
   26. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: October 27, 2017 at 10:04 AM (#5563410)
This is accurate. I think two things are happening. 1, we get bored, and 2, they get bored. It's not possible to fill dozens or hundreds of hours, year after year, with fresh insights.


I'll add a "3." they know the players less. When a guy has just left his playing days he is intimately familiar with all the players. The mental scouting reports A-Rod has on every pitcher or where he needs to position every hitter is going to be useful for analysis. The further from his playing days he gets the less knowledgeable he will be.
   27. SoSH U at work Posted: October 27, 2017 at 10:12 AM (#5563416)
I think it's mostly true, and they're definitely better when they're just out of the game, but there are a lot of guys who are never likeable or good, regardless how fresh they are.

   28. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: October 27, 2017 at 10:15 AM (#5563420)
I just never get to see the pre-game nor post-game shows any more and consider myself better off for it.

Considering sports-adjacent programming is awful no matter how good it is, you are.
   29. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: October 27, 2017 at 12:13 PM (#5563554)
I think it's mostly true, and they're definitely better when they're just out of the game, but there are a lot of guys who are never likeable or good, regardless how fresh they are.


Eric Byrnes doesn't do it for you?

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