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MLB releases postseason schedule and the World Series begins Oct. 22

Pick out your best costume, baseball fans, because you’ll be able to celebrate Halloween this year. Major League Baseball released its postseason schedule Monday, and Game 7 of the World Series will occur on Oct. 30 if necessary.

That’s right, there will be no baseball on the night of Halloween. That also means we won’t have any November baseball.

Make your plans now!

QLE Posted: August 07, 2019 at 04:06 AM | 48 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. rconn23 Posted: August 07, 2019 at 10:20 AM (#5869038)
This is fine. Just let me know what time the Mike Tauchman World Series MVP presentation will be held.
   2. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 07, 2019 at 11:03 AM (#5869059)
2 off days in the LDS. Favors the no real SP approach.

Your #1 and #3 SP can go 3 IP in G1, and 3 IP in G3 (which would be their throw. #2 and #4 do the same for G2 and G4. G5 would be the next regular start day for #1 and #3.

What I have in mind is something like:

Team carries 4 SPs, 2 openers, and 5-6 short relievers

G1 Opener A (1-2 IP), SP A (3 IP), SP B (3 IP), short RPs
G2 Opener B (1-2 IP), SP C (3 IP), SP D (3 IP), short RPs
Off-day
G3 Opener A (1-2 IP), SP A (3 IP), SP B (3 IP), short RPs
G4 Opener B (1-2 IP), SP C (3 IP), SP D (3 IP), short RPs
Off-day
G3 Opener A (1-2 IP), SP A (3 IP), SP B (3 IP), short RPs

No pitcher ever faces the same batter more than twice.
   3. Karl from NY Posted: August 07, 2019 at 03:31 PM (#5869264)
I had no idea the postseason schedule wasn't set, like, in January. Or at the latest, after the NFL schedule in April. What makes it wait until now?

I know during the "this time it counts" years, it'd come after the ASG, because the WS home-field league would be taken into account for the scheduling. But now that's not known until the very end after the LCSes.
   4. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: August 07, 2019 at 03:43 PM (#5869268)
That’s right, there will be no baseball on the night of Halloween. That also means we won’t have any November baseball.


Good.

I presume all playoff games will be at night time again so I'm rooting for no freezing cold, meaning no northern teams (except the Phillies).

I thought having all playoff games in the cold and dark was a Bud Selig TV innovation but I just read a Roger Ailes piece about the 1979 World Series where he complains about it. Apparently in Game 1 Bruce Kison could barely grip the ball and there were several throwing errors.
   5. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: August 07, 2019 at 03:50 PM (#5869270)
I thought having all playoff games in the cold and dark was a Bud Selig TV innovation but I just read a Roger Ailes piece about the 1979 World Series

it first became a thing during the 76 sweep by the Reds over the Yankees--Bowie Kuhn insisted on very prominently showing up in short sleeves even though the temp was in the 40s
   6. Karl from NY Posted: August 07, 2019 at 04:04 PM (#5869273)
1987 Game 6, on a Saturday, was the last daytime World Series game. (Although there are west coast games that start at 5 pm Pacific time, in daylight.)
   7. Sunday silence Posted: August 07, 2019 at 05:59 PM (#5869313)
2 off days in the LDS. Favors the no real SP approach.


Jeezus man, weren't you arguing just last week that CLE had created a "hole" in their rotation by trading Bauer? Doesnt this sort of scheduling put an emphasis on the top end of your rotation? CLE has Bieber/Clevinger w/ ERA+ of of 143/155; plus Plesac/Salazer/pluto etc. to add to the mix. THey seem quite strong in terms of their front line pitching...

So why not trade a position of depth to fill a glaring weakness or two? Isnt that just common sense?

You throw out these arguments like with no short term memory of what you just said..
   8. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 07, 2019 at 06:20 PM (#5869322)
I had no idea the postseason schedule wasn't set, like, in January.
I suspect it’s all pretty well mapped out when the regular season schedule is set, even if the formal announcement is delayed until folks are actually paying some attention. It’s like being “authorized to print playoff tickets”, reminding fans who is playing well, and generating some buzz about the playoffs.
   9. Howie Menckel Posted: August 07, 2019 at 08:27 PM (#5869347)
Game 7 of the SUBWAY Series will occur on Oct. 30 if necessary.

ftfy
   10. Where have you gone Brady Anderson? Posted: August 07, 2019 at 08:40 PM (#5869352)
I’m pretty sure game 7 of the subway series won’t be necessary, or games 1-6 of the subway series, for that matter.
   11. Howie Menckel Posted: August 07, 2019 at 09:22 PM (#5869373)
now, now, don't rule the scrappy Yankees out just yet. baseball can be unpredictable. I'm saying there's a chance.
   12. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: August 07, 2019 at 09:27 PM (#5869375)
Watched World Series day games on YouTube. Anyone ever actually go to one? Trying to get a feel for why this is somehow the epitome of baseball. No snark. Legit curious
   13. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 07, 2019 at 10:04 PM (#5869387)

Jeezus man, weren't you arguing just last week that CLE had created a "hole" in their rotation by trading Bauer? Doesnt this sort of scheduling put an emphasis on the top end of your rotation? CLE has Bieber/Clevinger w/ ERA+ of of 143/155; plus Plesac/Salazer/pluto etc. to add to the mix. THey seem quite strong in terms of their front line pitching...

So why not trade a position of depth to fill a glaring weakness or two? Isnt that just common sense?

You throw out these arguments like with no short term memory of what you just said..


I've been talking about this strategy for the Yankees, and their rotation, and bullpen. If I had Houston's or Cleveland's rotation and bullpen, it would be an awful idea.
   14. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: August 07, 2019 at 10:12 PM (#5869392)
Watched World Series day games on YouTube. Anyone ever actually go to one? Trying to get a feel for why this is somehow the epitome of baseball. No snark. Legit curious


You seem pretty sarcastic, but I'll answer anyway: playing when it's warmer and the sun is out is better. We can't do that on weekdays anymore, but it's depressing to spend all day on Saturday and Sunday doing nothing, watching the temperature drop until 8:05 PM and finally then start the baseball game.
   15. Howie Menckel Posted: August 07, 2019 at 10:47 PM (#5869399)
October in the northeast and midwest often used to be lovely weather. sometimes it still is, whereas those same evenings can be awfully chilly for fans and players alike.

also, if you have ever been to even a midweek regular-season game in nice weather, it's good for the soul to not only be off from work - but also relaxing instead at a leisurely sporting event.

for World Series games, you'd wake up, look forward to going to the ballpark, revel in a few hours of intensity - and you get home in time for dinner.

I guess some would prefer to leave work early, get to the game in evening rush-hour traffic, get home past midnight, and then likely work the next day on less sleep than usual.

which one would you prefer, is the question?

   16. PeteF3 Posted: August 07, 2019 at 11:00 PM (#5869401)
1987 Game 6, on a Saturday, was the last daytime World Series game. (Although there are west coast games that start at 5 pm Pacific time, in daylight.)


Game 6 of the '88 Series was scheduled for a 5pm Eastern start, putting it at 2pm local time in Oakland. But of course, the Dodgers ensured that we didn't get that far.
   17. Howie Menckel Posted: August 07, 2019 at 11:05 PM (#5869403)
I attended Game 7 of the 1986 World Series at Shea Stadium.
was scheduled for Sunday, but a rainout pushed it to Monday night.

it was a glorious evening.
   18. SoSH U at work Posted: August 07, 2019 at 11:06 PM (#5869404)
was scheduled for Sunday, but a rainout pushed it to Sunday night.

it was a glorious evening.


Monday night. And no it wasn't.
   19. Howie Menckel Posted: August 07, 2019 at 11:10 PM (#5869405)
wow, quick trigger there.

fixed typo, and it so was.
:)
   20. Jose is an Absurd Time Cube Posted: August 07, 2019 at 11:26 PM (#5869406)
I attended Game 7 of the 1986 World Series at Shea Stadium.
was scheduled for Sunday, but a rainout pushed it to Monday night.

it was a glorious evening.


It was a terrible evening. As I recall the Giants (I think, maybe the Jets) had a game the same night and there was a penalty assessed when Knight hit his homer because so many fans had a transistor radio and cheered causing an offside or illegal procedure.
   21. Jose is an Absurd Time Cube Posted: August 07, 2019 at 11:28 PM (#5869407)
Watched World Series day games on YouTube. Anyone ever actually go to one? Trying to get a feel for why this is somehow the epitome of baseball. No snark. Legit curious


I think knowing the game will end before midnight for the East Coast is the draw. I think we are still around 60% of the US population lives in the eastern time zone.
   22. SoSH U at work Posted: August 08, 2019 at 12:01 AM (#5869412)
I think knowing the game will end before midnight for the East Coast is the draw. I think we are still around 60% of the US population lives in the eastern time zone.


It's just short of half living in the Eastern time zone, but more than 75 percent live in the Eastern and Central.
   23. Howie Menckel Posted: August 08, 2019 at 12:10 AM (#5869414)
It was a terrible evening. As I recall the Giants (I think, maybe the Jets) had a game the same night

the Giants, en route to their first Super Bowl title, beat the mighty Redskins (12-4 that year and also 11-2 at the time of that game) on Monday Night that night. it kicked off a 12-0 finish.

had the vibe of 1969-70 Jets-Mets-Knicks - one after another.

also the Knicks won their other NBA title in 1973 - and months later, the Mets went on that incredible stretch run to Game 7 of the World Series.

   24. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 08, 2019 at 12:20 AM (#5869416)
As I recall the Giants (I think, maybe the Jets) had a game the same night and there was a penalty assessed when Knight hit his homer because so many fans had a transistor radio and cheered causing an offside or illegal procedure.
Man. Seems like a really long time ago that fans at a football game would be paying more attention to a baseball game rather than vice versa.
   25. DJS Thinks Apples and Oranges are Similar Posted: August 08, 2019 at 01:16 AM (#5869417)
I should note that in the majority of MLB cities, November 1st has a warmer average temperature than April 5th.
   26. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 08, 2019 at 08:53 AM (#5869455)
1987 Game 6, on a Saturday, was the last daytime World Series game.


And it was indoors! The last World Series game played in sunshine was Game 5 of the 1984 series between the Tigers and Padres.
   27. SoSH U at work Posted: August 08, 2019 at 09:48 AM (#5869474)

I should note that in the majority of MLB cities, November 1st has a warmer average temperature than April 5th.


Yes, but night games in early April in cold-weather cities usually suck.

   28. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: August 08, 2019 at 10:02 AM (#5869477)
Yes, these are the games that get the big spotlight on them. It's just not a good look for them all to be in the cold and dark.

Some West Coast games have surely been in the daylight recently, right? 5 PM starts over there?
   29. Karl from NY Posted: August 08, 2019 at 10:22 AM (#5869479)
A 5 PM west coast game would start in daylight, although for the time of year the WS happens, sunset occurs by 6:15 pm or so even with daylight time.
   30. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 08, 2019 at 10:34 AM (#5869483)
Watched World Series day games on YouTube. Anyone ever actually go to one? Trying to get a feel for why this is somehow the epitome of baseball. No snark. Legit curious

Took a train to Philly for the final game of the 1983 World Series, which began at 4:05. I also went to game 3 of the 1976 WS at Yankee Stadium, which began at 8:05.

Other than the games themselves, which on a scale of 1 to 100 were 100 and 1, the biggest difference was the weather. In 1976 we froze our butts off, whereas in 1983 it was in the 60's but would've been in the 40's if it'd been a night game.

Of course the biggest difference by far between the World Series at night and the World Series in the day is cultural. When the World Series was played exclusively in the afternoon, the entire sports world's attention was focused on it, with feature stories on the front page of the front sections of newspapers,** radios or TV's playing in work places,*** kids skipping school to watch it on TV,*** radios and TV's in the occasional classroom, etc.*** Whereas today the entire focus is on TV ratings to the exclusion of all other considerations, including the certainty that many children won't be allowed to stay up to watch the end of the games. Money Talks and Bullshitte Walks, and I'm just glad I was around when the Benjamins didn't override everything else.

** In part because the games didn't end close to midnight, which gave the writers plenty of time to compose multiple stories

*** Been there, done that
   31. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 08, 2019 at 10:40 AM (#5869488)
1987 Game 6, on a Saturday, was the last daytime World Series game.


And it was indoors! The last World Series game played in sunshine was Game 5 of the 1984 series between the Tigers and Padres.

Ah, but it was cloudy in Detroit that day, as it was the day before. The sun was hidden, and by the late innings the lights had been turned on. The last Series game in actual sunshine was game 2 of that Series, which started in the late afternoon in San Diego.
   32. Nasty Nate Posted: August 08, 2019 at 10:44 AM (#5869489)
My Dad tells the tale of getting home from school in time to listen to only the last batter of Larsen's game in '56.
   33. TomH Posted: August 08, 2019 at 11:52 AM (#5869521)
My Dad got home from school to hear Bobby Thompson's home run in 1951.
(not meaning to start a "my dad can take your dad" thing...)
   34. TomH Posted: August 08, 2019 at 11:54 AM (#5869523)
.. and of course my dad's memory is imperfect. He believes (I won't tell him otherwise) that after Willie Mays made his famous catch in the 54 Series, that he threw the runner out at home trying to tag up :)
   35. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 08, 2019 at 12:15 PM (#5869534)
My Dad tells the tale of getting home from school in time to listen to only the last batter of Larsen's game in '56.

That's entirely possible, since the game ended at 3:06 or 3:11 (depending on whether it began at 1:00 or 1:05), and schools usually let out at 3:00. I skipped school for game 7 of that Series, but I missed the entire perfect game, and didn't believe it until I saw the banner headline an hour or two later on the front page of the Washington Evening Star.

And in that Willie Mays game, our teacher had a TV in the school, so we could watch the entire game, which that day began at 12:30. The problem was that school let out just as the Indians were coming to bat in the 8th, so though I ran home as fast as I could, by the time I got there it was already in the bottom half of the inning. Very bad timing, though I did see the game winning home run by Dusty Rhodes that the second baseman could have caught if that 258' RF wall hadn't gotten in the way.
   36. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 08, 2019 at 12:17 PM (#5869538)
.. and of course my dad's memory is imperfect. He believes (I won't tell him otherwise) that after Willie Mays made his famous catch in the 54 Series, that he threw the runner out at home trying to tag up :)

Well, you can console him by telling him one true fact: That runner never made it home.
   37. manchestermets Posted: August 08, 2019 at 02:02 PM (#5869579)
I'm obviously in the minority here, but a World Series game starting before 1am my time would be lovely.
   38. Jose is an Absurd Time Cube Posted: August 08, 2019 at 02:11 PM (#5869583)
One of the amusing things about Game Three of last year's World Series was getting to see Dodger fans having to experience the joy of a World Series game going well passed midnight.

(not meaning to start a "my dad can take your dad" thing...)


My father was watching the Larsen game at his house in Cuba but got bored because nothing was happening so he went outside to play with his friends.

He believes (I won't tell him otherwise) that after Willie Mays made his famous catch in the 54 Series, that he threw the runner out at home trying to tag up :)


A friend's dad has insisted for YEARS that part of what made Mays' catch so great is he made a strong throw and kept the runner from tagging up (he didn't, Doby went to third).
   39. Jose is an Absurd Time Cube Posted: August 08, 2019 at 02:12 PM (#5869584)
I'm just glad I was around when the Benjamins didn't override everything else.


I think that's an optimistic viewpoint. The difference then was that TV money wasn't the driver. I'd bet if the newspapers had insisted on games starting at 8PM the teams would have caved in a heartbeat. What was Wrigley's line? "It's easier to get a man to call in sick to work than to get away from his wife" or something along those lines?
   40. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: August 08, 2019 at 02:17 PM (#5869588)
Watched World Series day games on YouTube. Anyone ever actually go to one? Trying to get a feel for why this is somehow the epitome of baseball.

I think it's the aprocryphal tales of elementary school kids sneaking transistor radios and earpieces into school in the 50's and 60's so they could listen to the game during class without the teacher knowing.
   41. The Run Fairy Posted: August 08, 2019 at 02:35 PM (#5869593)
A friend's dad has insisted for YEARS that part of what made Mays' catch so great is he made a strong throw and kept the runner from tagging up (he didn't, Doby went to third).


I thought the story was that Doby was a fast runner and could've tagged up and advanced two bases because CF in the Polo Grounds was so deep and Mays should've been out of position to make anything resembling a decent throw.
   42. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 08, 2019 at 02:42 PM (#5869596)
I think it's the apocryphal tales of elementary school kids sneaking transistor radios and earpieces into school in the 50's and 60's so they could listen to the game during class without the teacher knowing.

Pat, I can guarantee that those tales weren't the slightest bit apocryphal. Believe it or not, teachers and parents back then weren't nearly as obsessed about raising Perfect Little Children as they are today, and they knew that the World Series was something special.

Obviously not all teachers and parents were that laid back, but enough of them were to make things bearable. My elementary schools had a TV in a special room where the teachers watched along with us, and my Jr. High and high school had numerous teachers who never bothered me when I brought in my radio to listen to the games.
   43. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: August 08, 2019 at 02:54 PM (#5869604)
That's fair, and I tried a couple of other words there before using "apocryphal." Maybe "romanticized" is what I really meant. That era was just a little before my time, and when I've seen it in movies/TV, it's always presented as the kid having to sneak the radio in and hide it from the teacher and almost get caught and oh, isn't it cute how he's getting one over on the teacher, etc.
   44. . Posted: August 08, 2019 at 03:10 PM (#5869609)
Ah, but it was cloudy in Detroit that day, as it was the day before. The sun was hidden, and by the late innings the lights had been turned on. The last Series game in actual sunshine was game 2 of that Series, which started in the late afternoon in San Diego.


Hall of Famer Jack Morris made the Padres look like Little Leaguers the day before. Complete game, 5 hits, two runs, an efficient two hours and 20 minutes -- textbook postseason domination. And, yes, it was indeed gray and overcast.
   45. . Posted: August 08, 2019 at 03:17 PM (#5869610)
That's fair, and I tried a couple of other words there before using "apocryphal." Maybe "romanticized" is what I really meant. That era was just a little before my time, and when I've seen it in movies/TV, it's always presented as the kid having to sneak the radio in and hide it from the teacher and almost get caught and oh, isn't it cute how he's getting one over on the teacher, etc.


Obviously romanticized. So some kids pre-internet snuck listens to big sporting events during work or school. Not really that big a deal. Kids do the same thing today, just in other ways. So do adults. The NCAA basketball tournament is on office TVs all over the country during the workday. The main sporting events on during US school/workdays now are Champions League soccer matches and we can all rest assured that many, many kids are sneaking looks.
   46. Howie Menckel Posted: August 08, 2019 at 03:46 PM (#5869618)
I thought the story was that Doby was a fast runner and could've tagged up and advanced two bases because CF in the Polo Grounds was so deep and Mays should've been out of position to make anything resembling a decent throw.

that's exactly right.

as for the small transistor radio, I was 7 or 8 when I realized that I COULD LEAVE IT ON under my pillow, and my Mom still couldn't hear it through the pillow when she came in to say good night. what a revelation!
   47. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: August 08, 2019 at 04:01 PM (#5869624)
We can have the best of both worlds. Here's the plan: game time is 12:05. Broadcast starts at 8:05. Cell phones are confiscated as you enter the stadium, and once the game starts the gates are locked until after the broadcast ends so that no one can tell the outside world what happened during the game. Fans get to watch day game baseball, Fox gets to broadcast the game during prime time, and the owners get twelve hours to sell concessions inside the stadium. It's win-win-win. Obviously the last call for beer will be during the 7th inning of the broadcast, not the game itself. Heck, let the fans in the stadium down onto the field after the game ends; they can have a huge picnic and watch the broadcast on the jumbotron. Then the grounds crew works all night to get the field in shape for the game the next day.
   48. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: August 08, 2019 at 04:31 PM (#5869636)
Lots of good perspective on day games in the fall. Thanks

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