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Wednesday, April 09, 2014

MLB: Relief Awards named for Rivera, Hoffman

The American League’s top reliever will be given an award named for Mariano Rivera, and the National League winner will receive a trophy named for Trevor Hoffman. Rivera and Hoffman, Nos. 1 and 2 in career saves, spent their entire careers pitching in their respective leagues. . .

The new honors, beginning this season, will replace MLB’s Delivery Man of the Year Award, which was given to one reliever each year, as opposed to one reliever per league. . .

The award winners will be determined by a vote of other great relievers. Rivera and Hoffman will be joined by Dennis Eckersley, Rollie Fingers, Goose Gossage and Bruce Sutter, who are the four living relievers in the Hall of Fame, and Lee Smith, John Franco and Billy Wagner, all of whom are among the top five in career saves.

The nine voters will rank the top three pitchers in each league based solely on regular-season performance, and each of their ballots will use a 5-3-1 weighted point system.

That’s an interesting way to pick an award.

The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 09, 2014 at 03:16 PM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: awards, hoffman, mariano rivera, relievers

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   1. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: April 09, 2014 at 05:35 PM (#4683328)
That’s an interesting way to pick an award.

I have it on good authority that Ron Kittle, Joe Charboneau, Jerome Walton, and Butch Metzger are on the panel to select the Mariano Rivera Rookie of the Year Awards.
   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 09, 2014 at 05:44 PM (#4683334)
MLB needs to do an award show, like the NHL does (don't they have one?). Give MVP, ROY, Manager of the Year, this thing, Gold Gloves, Silver Sluggers, Hank Aaron Award, Minor League Player of the Year, the Lady Byng Award. You could create a few more like the Rickey! Award for best base-stealer, the Derek Jeter Award for "best clutch hitter", the Jeff Francoeur Award for "most likeable teammate." Players come in tuxes (would be great to see who wears the most outlandish outfit. Maybe we invite Jonny Gomes and Brian Wilson just to fill seats)

Seriously, why wouldn't this work? Have it hosted by Mets fan Jon Stewart, air it on MLB Network and give me something to watch in November. MLB has really the only sports individual awards anyone cares about aside from the Heisman and they have an ENTIRE HOUR dedicated to ONE award for the Heisman. MLB totally botches how they announce their awards.
   3. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: April 09, 2014 at 05:51 PM (#4683340)
You could create a few more like the Rickey! Mariano Rivera Base Stealing Award for best base-stealer, the Derek Jeter Mariano Rivera Clutch Hitting Award for "best clutch hitter", the Jeff Francoeur Mariano Rivera Mr. Congeniality Award for "most likeable teammate."
   4. cardsfanboy Posted: April 09, 2014 at 06:01 PM (#4683356)
Seriously, why wouldn't this work? Have it hosted by Mets fan Jon Stewart, air it on MLB Network and give me something to watch in November. MLB has really the only sports individual awards anyone cares about aside from the Heisman and they have an ENTIRE HOUR dedicated to ONE award for the Heisman. MLB totally botches how they announce their awards.


The thing about MLB is that they like having that entire week dedicated to awards. Doing it as one show actually reduces their relevance. I think botched is the wrong word. They have arguably the most talked about awards and the way they present it, probably has a lot to do with it.

I'm personally split on which would be better, I love the debates on the awards and the discussion generated by each and feel a lot of that would be lost if it all got lumped into one day, but at the same time, an awards show would be kind of cool as long as Fox isn't involved in it.
   5. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 09, 2014 at 06:47 PM (#4683387)
an awards show would be kind of cool as long as Fox isn't involved in it.


The Scooter Award for best FUNdamentals!
   6. The District Attorney Posted: April 09, 2014 at 06:56 PM (#4683393)
I would say this would help Hoffman's Hall of Fame narrative, but there's an Edgar Martinez Award and that doesn't seem to have helped Edgar much.

Still couldn't hurt, though.
   7. Sean Forman Posted: April 09, 2014 at 09:44 PM (#4683503)
Coming soon. Derek Jeter Medal of Honor (and yes I stole this from a colleague)
   8. bjhanke Posted: April 09, 2014 at 10:12 PM (#4683525)
Mutter. Grumble. Geezer that I am, I think that at least one of those awards should be named for Hoyt Wilhelm, who is the greatest reliever of all time. But, then, Hoyt wasn't a closer, so his save stats don't look like much. His career numbers as a pitcher, on the other hand.... - Brock Hanke
   9. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: April 10, 2014 at 01:18 AM (#4683584)
MLB needs to do an award show, like the NHL does (don't they have one?). Give MVP, ROY, Manager of the Year, this thing, Gold Gloves, Silver Sluggers, Hank Aaron Award, Minor League Player of the Year, the Lady Byng Award. You could create a few more like the Rickey! Award for best base-stealer, the Derek Jeter Award for "best clutch hitter", the Jeff Francoeur Award for "most likeable teammate." Players come in tuxes (would be great to see who wears the most outlandish outfit. Maybe we invite Jonny Gomes and Brian Wilson just to fill seats)


I would pay a lot of money to see awards such as
"the Braun" for that player who leads the league in making false accusations
the manny being manny award, which is self explanatory
and of course the Carl Everett award for the most unstable player of the year.
   10. bjhanke Posted: April 10, 2014 at 01:38 AM (#4683590)
The Derek Jeter Award is for "worst defensive middle infielder to hold down a regular job and have no one think the worse of him for it." The trophy is a bronze-coated gift basket.

You can't afford Manny. You have to pay Manny to BE Manny. - Brock Hanke
   11. Walt Davis Posted: April 10, 2014 at 04:24 PM (#4684016)
Surely that should be named after Milton Bradley not Everett. Perhaps the Carlos Zambrano for most unstable pitcher.

I don't necessarily mind an award named after Rivera although, c'mon, at least wait until he's actually in the HoF. But Hoffman? That's like naming an award after Tony Perez.
   12. cardsfanboy Posted: April 10, 2014 at 04:30 PM (#4684027)
Mutter. Grumble. Geezer that I am, I think that at least one of those awards should be named for Hoyt Wilhelm, who is the greatest reliever of all time. But, then, Hoyt wasn't a closer, so his save stats don't look like much. His career numbers as a pitcher, on the other hand.... - Brock Hanke


To be fair, they went with Hoffman and Rivera because their entire career was in their respective leagues. I would subscribe to your newsletter if they proposed a "Hoyt" award for the best overall reliever in baseball and specifically mentioned in it's development that being a closer isn't necessary a requirement for the award.
   13. Ron J2 Posted: April 10, 2014 at 04:30 PM (#4684029)
#11 Surely Brandon Phillips won the Tony Perez award last year. (rbis due primarily to batting behind at least two OBP machines)
   14. SouthSideRyan Posted: April 10, 2014 at 04:46 PM (#4684052)
[2] They do an awards show on MLB network. I imagine it would be difficult to get most guys to give up their golf schedule/family time to go to an event.
   15. Moeball Posted: April 10, 2014 at 04:51 PM (#4684057)
Mutter. Grumble. Geezer that I am, I think that at least one of those awards should be named for Hoyt Wilhelm, who is the greatest reliever of all time. But, then, Hoyt wasn't a closer, so his save stats don't look like much. His career numbers as a pitcher, on the other hand.... - Brock Hanke


Agreed, Brock. I remember watching Wilhelm put up sub-2 ERAs year after year, sometimes with 100 or more IP. He was damned near impossible to hit...or catch.

Much as I loved hearing "Hell's Bells" (particularly in 1998, when the Padres first started regularly doing that upon Trevor's entrances) and watching Trevor Time for many years, Hoffy's overrated as a closer. I know that. He was very good but I wouldn't call him great.

Still, as unlikely as I think it is to happen - if he somehow gets the Call for the Hall, I will be very happy to use it as an excuse to make my fourth journey to Cooperstown!

The Tony Perez award should go to any player who wins an All Star Game with a 15th-inning HR. I'm still waiting to hand this award out, but these players nowadays just don't have the stamina to go that long!
   16. SouthSideRyan Posted: April 10, 2014 at 04:55 PM (#4684060)
Lee Smith didn't watch games when he was an active player. Gossage will probably write his own name in 3 times.
   17. cardsfanboy Posted: April 10, 2014 at 05:00 PM (#4684066)
[2] They do an awards show on MLB network. I imagine it would be difficult to get most guys to give up their golf schedule/family time to go to an event.


Cardinals do a baseball writers dinner every year, and with the exception of Molina(who never shows up) they have no problems getting pretty much everyone from the team they want and most of the hall of famers (and players from a team that they are celebrating, example 1964 Cardinals) and even a few opposing players (Ryan Howard, Mark Buehrle, and Randy Wells.)

I don't think that would be a problem.

But as I mentioned before, I think an awards show would actually diminish the importance that the fans have placed on the awards. Outside of the Heisman, is there any sport that competes nationally for the public's interest in their awards with MLB. And I think the reason is how it's spread out, where each major award gets it's own day. Making the job easy for writers and give them a ready made article subject to talk about. If you lump it into one show, then there will be less "ink" dedicated to the awards.
   18. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 10, 2014 at 05:05 PM (#4684070)
They do an awards show on MLB network. I imagine it would be difficult to get most guys to give up their golf schedule/family time to go to an event.


The thing is the event already exists. The BBWAA hosts a dinner every year in New York and a lot of the recipients turn out to receive their awards. You don't need a new event, just gotta pretty it up a little bit and put it on TV, ideally somewhere that ESPN and Fox are not involved.
   19. cardsfanboy Posted: April 10, 2014 at 05:07 PM (#4684073)
Much as I loved hearing "Hell's Bells" (particularly in 1998, when the Padres first started regularly doing that upon Trevor's entrances) and watching Trevor Time for many years, Hoffy's overrated as a closer. I know that. He was very good but I wouldn't call him great.


10 years ago, I would have agreed with you, and he might still be overrated, but he is clearly great in regards to closers. I've tried studying relievers and closers and generally the names that come up at the top of the list(in the era of the closer) no matter what I do is 1. Rivera 2. Wagner 3. Hoffman. (with Joe Nathan now joining them) But his graceful decline put a stamp on his greatness.
   20. Select Storage Device Posted: April 10, 2014 at 08:18 PM (#4684161)
I have an unbreakable association between Trevor Hoffman and Trevor Plouffe, because "plouffe" is what I imagined a Hoffman fastball sounds like hitting a pillow.

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