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Wednesday, March 20, 2019

MLB rumors: Brewers talking to former Red Sox closer Craig Kimbrel

We’re just over one week away from Opening Day, and Craig Kimbrel somehow remains unsigned.

But finally, there appears to be a team showing interest in the former Red Sox closer. That team is the Brewers, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic.

The hot stove that never ends marches on!

QLE Posted: March 20, 2019 at 07:42 AM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: brewers, craig kimbrel, hot stove

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   1. asinwreck Posted: March 20, 2019 at 08:23 AM (#5823942)
Will this be a one-year contract like Grandal's, or is Milwaukee proposing a long-term contract?
   2. bbmck Posted: March 20, 2019 at 09:28 AM (#5823953)
Most Saves 2016-18, left on contract:

126 - Kenley Jansen, 3/57.3
109 - Edwin Diaz, 2019 is last pre-arb season
108 - Craig Kimbrel, FA
102 - Wade Davis, 2/36 or 3/50
96 - Alex Colome, 7.325 in A2
96 - Roberto Osuna, 6.5 in A1

90 - Aroldis Chapman, 3/51.6
89 - Cody Allen, 1/8.5, $0.25mil for 35+ GF to $2mil for 55+ GF
89 - Fernando Rodney, 1/5.25
75 - Jeurys Familia, 3/30, $0.5mil per season of 50+ GF
75 - Ken Giles, 1/6.3 in A2
   3. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: March 20, 2019 at 10:51 AM (#5823967)
When we think of 30ish closers who might just be losing it and who sign late with the Milwaukee Brewers, we have to think of Francisco Rodriguez:

December 7, 2011: Signed as a Free Agent with the Milwaukee Brewers.
October 29, 2012: Granted Free Agency.
April 17, 2013: Signed as a Free Agent with the Milwaukee Brewers.
July 23, 2013: Traded by the Milwaukee Brewers to the Baltimore Orioles for Nicky Delmonico.
October 31, 2013: Granted Free Agency.
February 7, 2014: Signed as a Free Agent with the Milwaukee Brewers.
October 30, 2014: Granted Free Agency.
March 14, 2015: Signed as a Free Agent with the Milwaukee Brewers.
   4. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 20, 2019 at 10:55 AM (#5823969)
It's a little incredible that both Kimbrel and Keuchel are unsigned.
   5. The Duke Posted: March 20, 2019 at 11:13 AM (#5823979)
The brewers are mastering the art of the late spring training sign. Anything three years or less will be a great deal for them
   6. Howie Menckel Posted: March 20, 2019 at 11:52 AM (#5823990)
Jeremy Jeffress - he of the 1.29 ERA in 2018 - has a sore arm and starts the season on the DL.
the usual "day to day" claims, but I wonder.

Jeffress had an ERA barely half of Josh Hader's last season - and had more W, more SV, and a better winning percentage.
   7. Jose is an Absurd Kahuna Posted: March 20, 2019 at 12:10 PM (#5824001)
I think Kimbrel shot himself in the foot with his demands at the start of the winter. if reports of 6/100 were true I can see a lot of teams just saying \"#### it, he's not going to listen to what we would do." My sense is that the last couple of off-seasons teams have stopped engaging on players with huge demands and trying to negotiate down and meet in the middle. It seems like teams are just not bothering with that.
   8. Cris E Posted: March 20, 2019 at 01:31 PM (#5824032)
They haven't needed to with the market slowing the way it has.
   9. JRVJ Posted: March 20, 2019 at 01:40 PM (#5824039)
I'm really surprised that Keuchel is still unsigned.

Either teams are seeing something terrible in his pitches that the public can't see without high falutin' cameras and such or he is asking for WAY too much.
   10. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: March 20, 2019 at 02:44 PM (#5824065)
Gio Gonzalez just signed a minor league deal.
   11. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 20, 2019 at 02:49 PM (#5824068)
When we think of 30ish closers who might just be losing it and who sign late with the Milwaukee Brewers, we have to think of Francisco Rodriguez:
He's Plan B if Kimbrel doesn't sign.
   12. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 20, 2019 at 02:56 PM (#5824069)
Gio Gonzalez just signed a minor league deal.


That is INSANE. The guy is two years removed from posting a sub-3 ERA and was not only above replacement level last year... he was ABOVE AVERAGE. The contract at best gives him 12m, and that's if he gets called up right away and makes every scheduled start. The base salary is only 3m. There's no way almost every team expecting to be in contention shouldn't have given him 8-10m to replace their 4th starter.
   13. Master of the Horse Posted: March 20, 2019 at 02:57 PM (#5824070)
6--Why did you choose those metrics for comparison? Except for contract discussions are wins, saves or winning percentage of any value in assessing pitcher performance? And ERA is kind of maybe ok but still not quality.

Just curious.

And as for JJ he received crazy good luck last season. Just unreal. And if his arm isn't better by now have to figure it's not happening if ever.

Hope the best because the guy is an amazing person. But he might have left whatever he had left in 2018.
   14. Nasty Nate Posted: March 20, 2019 at 02:58 PM (#5824071)
10. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: March 20, 2019 at 02:44 PM (#5824065)
Gio Gonzalez just signed a minor league deal.
It's an unusual deal. If he starts 30 games (as he has in the 8 of the last 9 years), he will make $12m. It's almost an NFL style non-guaranteed contract.
   15. Walt Davis Posted: March 20, 2019 at 04:47 PM (#5824107)
With no spring training, presumably Gio won't be ready to take the mound until around week 2-3 which means making 30 starts will require not missing one.
   16. Bote Man Posted: March 20, 2019 at 05:34 PM (#5824130)
With no spring training, presumably Gio won't be ready to take the mound until around week 2-3

Reporters have reported that Gio has been throwing some simulated games in Hialeah to stay close to in-shape. No word on whether he simulated his patented temper tantrum after giving up a simulated home run, though.
   17. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 20, 2019 at 06:05 PM (#5824139)
Reporters have reported
As is their habit.
   18. Zonk Ignored the Comment Posted: March 20, 2019 at 07:05 PM (#5824144)
There's no way almost every team expecting to be in contention shouldn't have given him 8-10m to replace their 4th starter.


I agree.

I just hope it's someone else's team.
   19. cardsfanboy Posted: March 20, 2019 at 07:55 PM (#5824149)
I think Kimbrel shot himself in the foot with his demands at the start of the winter.


Yep.. he has noone to blame other than himself or his agent.... No competitive team is going to sign him for more than four years, so he's basically asking a crappy team to sign him so he can languish in obscurity while waiting for a trade opportunity.


If he wanted a long term contract he should have pushed the option contract where if he gets 30+ saves in his fourth year, it automatically vest his 5th year option, and if he does it in the 5th year, it automatically vest his 6th year option... beyond that, the fact that there has almost never ever been a free agent reliever contract that has been worth the money for even three years shows the folly of his agent.
   20. cardsfanboy Posted: March 20, 2019 at 08:01 PM (#5824151)
6--Why did you choose those metrics for comparison? Except for contract discussions are wins, saves or winning percentage of any value in assessing pitcher performance? And ERA is kind of maybe ok but still not quality.


because there is a contingent on here of Jeffress groupies, who want to throw him their panties and are upset that Hader got the better love last season by pretty much everyone that actually knows anything about the game. I mean sure Hader had the better whip, fip, krate and pretty much every other number that matters, but Jeffress had the better era.... so he should have been as beloved as the guy who pretty obviously pitched better than him.. (even with a late season slump)
   21. Walt Davis Posted: March 21, 2019 at 07:37 AM (#5824203)
#19: not a big deal but "saves" would be a performance measure, they would have to use games finished (I think there's a precedent for that) or maybe even games relieved.

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