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MLB.com:  Succession committee formed for next Commissioner

Commissioner Bud Selig, who plans to retire in January, announced the formation of a succession committee Thursday as the quarterly Owners Meetings concluded at Major League Baseball headquarters.

The committee will be chaired by Cardinals chairman and chief executive officer Bill DeWitt Jr. and will include six other owners: Dick Montfort of the Rockies, Dave Montgomery of the Phillies, Arte Moreno of the Angels, Bob Nutting of the Pirates, Jim Pohlad of the Twins and Jerry Reinsdorf of the White Sox.

“It’s a committee that really represents, I think, the constituency [of baseball],” Selig said.

Swedish Chef Posted: May 15, 2014 at 03:18 PM | 94 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: May 15, 2014 at 03:40 PM (#4707652)
Hank Aaron would've been my choice 20 years ago (he's 80 now). What former player would you like to see as commish?
   2. Gazizza, my Dilznoofuses! Posted: May 15, 2014 at 03:43 PM (#4707657)
What former player would you like to see as commish?


Oh no, they're going to pick Jeter, aren't they?
   3. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 03:44 PM (#4707660)
Is Joe Torre too old? He'd seem a natural fit for the position, and someone respected throughout the game.

   4. zenbitz Posted: May 15, 2014 at 03:46 PM (#4707667)
Barry Bonds, Obv.
   5. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 15, 2014 at 03:48 PM (#4707669)
Donald Sterling is unexpectedly available.
   6. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 15, 2014 at 03:48 PM (#4707670)
Oh no, they're going to pick Jeter, aren't they?

Jeter has said on multiple occasions that he'd like to own a team when he's done playing, so it looks like he meets the Commissioner qualifications.
   7. A Fatty Cow That Need Two Seats Posted: May 15, 2014 at 03:52 PM (#4707675)
It's the part Shinjo was born to play, baby
   8. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 03:56 PM (#4707678)
Lenny Dykstra!
   9. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 15, 2014 at 03:56 PM (#4707679)
This is obvious...Matt Wieters.
   10. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 03:59 PM (#4707681)
This is obvious...Matt Wieters.


Which must be Dutch (or whatever) for Mariano Rivera.
   11. winnipegwhip Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:00 PM (#4707683)
And the winner is......Wendy Prieb.
   12. Ron J2 Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:00 PM (#4707685)
#9 Wieters is out. He's sworn not to use his powers for evil.
   13. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:03 PM (#4707687)
It's funny. I'm trying to think of players who were universally respected when I was a kid in the 70s/80s and there really isn't anyone who fits the bill. Ironically the guys who probably would have most fit the bill are Garvey and Rose so...no.
   14. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:07 PM (#4707689)
Is Joe Torre too old? He'd seem a natural fit for the position, and someone respected throughout the game.

Yeah--he's 73. A lot of the names that were thrown around 10-12 years ago (GWB, Mitchell) are all getting long in the tooth. This ESPN article lists several names, including Costas, George Will, and Sandy Alderson (!!?)
   15. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:07 PM (#4707690)
Chris Truby & Albert Belle.

And Mike Crudale.

   16. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:08 PM (#4707692)
I was a kid in the 70s/80s and there really isn't anyone who fits the bill. Ironically the guys who probably would have most fit the bill are Garvey and Rose so...no.


Ripken maybe?

Not that I'd necessarily want to see him as commish, but he's pretty universally revered.
   17. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:13 PM (#4707698)
It's funny. I'm trying to think of players who were universally respected when I was a kid in the 70s/80s and there really isn't anyone who fits the bill.

Especially now that Pascual Perez is dead.
   18. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:15 PM (#4707699)
Back when my alma mater fired its football coach, it put the position on its website. The listing was complete with an "APPLY NOW" button. I think it had something to do with state rules (it was a public university).

Anyway, I'd love to see baseball do something similar. "Needed: Comissioner. Required: Business acumen, passion for baseball, negotiation skills. Strictly Optional: Attractive hair, charisma."
   19. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:15 PM (#4707700)
I thought of Ripken. I have the impression that Ripken is not as liked within the game as much as his reputation with the fans would suggest. He'd be interesting though. He's got some business experience (Cal Ripken League baseball) that could serve him well.

Nolan Ryan is another one but I get the impression he is a "my way or the highway" type.

I suspect that the right answer is a guy like Manfred that isn't a "sexy" name but is someone who could step in and keep things moving the way they are. There are flaws but generally I think if I were an owner or a player I would not want to see particularly major changes to the business of baseball with the way the money is flooding in.
   20. Swedish Chef Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:18 PM (#4707702)
Curt Schilling is the one.

- He has experience from the game and was recognized as a leadership figure.
- He is good at media.
- He's committed against steroids in baseball.
- But he knows better than to blabb unnecessarily in Congress about it.
- He has experience running a business.
- And was spectacularly successful in securing public funding for said business.

Curt Schilling is the only choice. CURT 2015!

This comment is sponsored by the Curt for Commish Committee
   21. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:23 PM (#4707706)

Among former players, Nolan Ryan seems like a decent choice. But I doubt it will actually be a former player.
   22. Bourbon Samurai Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:31 PM (#4707715)
I'd be pretty surprised if it was a former player. Seems like an oily businessman type if the way to go.
   23. Lassus Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:31 PM (#4707716)
I know it was a joke, but a grass-roots campaign for Jeter almost can't fail, can it?
   24. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:32 PM (#4707718)
I'm probably forgetting someone really, really obvious, but have any of the major sports leagues ever had a former player as commissioner? The ABA started out with George Mikan in that position & ended with Dave DeBusschere, but they weren't the NBA by any means.
   25. esseff Posted: May 15, 2014 at 04:37 PM (#4707724)
Nominee withdrawn.
   26. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 05:09 PM (#4707746)
How would a Jeter campaign differ from a Ripken campaign?

While I have no idea of his business acumen, Mo Rivera seems so wildly respected inside and outside the game that he could fit the position (and he's very significantly involved in a number of charities, no? So he has some leadership experience.)

My personal preference would be Bob Costas or Keith Olbermann, but I doubt either happens.
   27. Rennie's Tenet Posted: May 15, 2014 at 05:12 PM (#4707750)
Frank Coonelly? Now with team-running experience!
   28. PreservedFish Posted: May 15, 2014 at 05:23 PM (#4707755)
Won't it be some boring technocrat? Isn't that who the NFL and NBA have gone for?
   29. Publius Publicola Posted: May 15, 2014 at 05:25 PM (#4707760)
George Mitchell.
   30. dr. scott Posted: May 15, 2014 at 05:26 PM (#4707761)
i cant really think of a player that would be both innovative and savvy enough to keep the owners happy and the game growing. Say what you will of bud, but he did some pretty radical things, and not only did the ship not sink, it thrived. One can say it may have thrived without those radical changes, but making those changes and remaining in power for so long without pissing off the constituency or enabling your opponents is not an easy task.

I'm guessing the next commish will not be a household name.
   31. Publius Publicola Posted: May 15, 2014 at 05:34 PM (#4707764)
How about Elon Musk?
   32. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: May 15, 2014 at 05:35 PM (#4707765)
Definitely wouldn't be my choice, but I bet that it will be George W. Bush.
   33. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 05:36 PM (#4707766)
Hank Steinbrenner.
   34. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 05:37 PM (#4707770)
Definitely wouldn't be my choice, but I bet that it will be George W. Bush.


Maybe worth thinking about if we know he won't bring Dick Cheney along to hold his ... uh ... hand.
   35. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: May 15, 2014 at 05:46 PM (#4707774)
Paul Giamatti.

AJ Ellis.
   36. bookbook Posted: May 15, 2014 at 05:50 PM (#4707776)
Jack Zduriencik.

Please.


   37. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 06:03 PM (#4707783)
Jack Keefe.
   38. tfbg9 Posted: May 15, 2014 at 06:13 PM (#4707789)
Charlie Sheen.
   39. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 15, 2014 at 06:15 PM (#4707790)
Who else but Octavio Dotel?
   40. Canker Soriano Posted: May 15, 2014 at 07:07 PM (#4707813)
Joe Morgan. We've already got a Fire Joe Morgan website out there, so that's an easy transition.

Of course, the right answer, as always, is Frank Stallone.
   41. AndrewJ Posted: May 15, 2014 at 07:17 PM (#4707818)
I'm probably forgetting someone really, really obvious, but have any of the major sports leagues ever had a former player as commissioner?

NFL commish Bert Bell quarterbacked at Penn (though never in the pros). And, of course, MLB league presidents Joe Cronin, Bobby Brown and Bill White.

Definitely wouldn't be my choice, but I bet that it will be George W. Bush.

I'd rather have had a world where he was commissioner from 2001-09 and Bud Selig was president, frankly.
   42. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: May 15, 2014 at 08:00 PM (#4707842)
While I recognize that a lot of good jokes have been written here, I think you all are missing the point here. Selig has announced the formation of a committee? And the succession can't occur until they've released their findings, I assume? So a Selig-appointed panel has been given their task... he'll remain as commissioner well into the next decade, then.
   43. McCoy Posted: May 15, 2014 at 08:14 PM (#4707847)
What's Colin Powell up to nowadays?
   44. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 15, 2014 at 08:48 PM (#4707856)
What's Colin Powell up to nowadays?

Condi Rice was the Cabinet Member who repeatedly said her dream job would be NFL Commissioner. This would be MLB's chance to stick it to the NFL and the Rutgers faculty.
   45. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 08:51 PM (#4707857)
The new commish should be picked via the outcome of the All-Star Game. This time it counts!
   46. asinwreck Posted: May 15, 2014 at 09:02 PM (#4707859)
Ozzie Guillen. Because that would be amazing.
   47. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: May 15, 2014 at 09:30 PM (#4707868)
Ichiro could do it if he wanted to.
   48. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: May 15, 2014 at 09:35 PM (#4707870)
All politics aside, wouldn't George W. Bush actually be a very cool selection? He would probably very good at it. How about Rudy Guiliani? Condi Rice would also be a good pick. It will probably be somebody with a legal background, though...
   49. Scott Ross Posted: May 15, 2014 at 10:03 PM (#4707883)
Mark Cuban.
   50. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 15, 2014 at 10:15 PM (#4707889)
All politics aside, wouldn't George W. Bush actually be a very cool selection?


Sure, I can't wait for the day he announces the Super Bowl has been cancelled.
   51. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 15, 2014 at 10:16 PM (#4707890)
All politics aside, wouldn't George W. Bush actually be a very cool selection?


He voted against the wild card. That's good enough for me.
   52. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: May 15, 2014 at 10:24 PM (#4707894)
It's funny. I'm trying to think of players who were universally respected when I was a kid in the 70s/80s and there really isn't anyone who fits the bill.


Dale Murphy? He was darn good player who was seen as a good guy also.

The obvious choice would be Carl Everett. How fun would that be!

Serious choice...Bill Clinton(though he'll be busy running the U.S. once his "wife" wins in 2016)
   53. winnipegwhip Posted: May 15, 2014 at 10:34 PM (#4707898)
Alan Eagleson?

Vladimir Putin?
   54. winnipegwhip Posted: May 15, 2014 at 10:36 PM (#4707899)
In regards to G W Bush wasn't he the only owner who didn't vote to get rid of Fay Vincent?
   55. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: May 15, 2014 at 10:40 PM (#4707901)
Even money it'll be a committee member.

My pick, Jerry Reinsdorf.
   56. steagles Posted: May 15, 2014 at 10:51 PM (#4707905)
doug glanville? ivy league graduate, 10+ years in MLB, generally well liked.

orel hershiser? john olerud? paul molitor? greg maddux? omar vizquel? mike cameron? kenny lofton?
   57. Traderdave Posted: May 15, 2014 at 11:16 PM (#4707913)

   58. Traderdave Posted: May 15, 2014 at 11:21 PM (#4707916)


I have deep contempt for the man, but GWB would make a decent commish. If he'd never been President he'd have been an excellent one, but his record in office casts too long a shadow for him to perform as he might have but for a butterfly ballot.
   59. JE (Jason) Posted: May 16, 2014 at 03:09 AM (#4707968)
Bob Costas

Will Leitch is not amused.
   60. Tim Wallach was my Hero Posted: May 16, 2014 at 09:21 AM (#4708002)
Especially now that Pascual Perez is dead.

Wait, what? I had totally forgotten, although, as it turns out, I posted in the thread where we discussed his career and death...

May I suggest Gary Bettman? Him leaving the NHL might boost Quebec City's chances to get a team back someday. And who knows, he worked so hard to bring the NHL in non-natural markets that he may do the same with baseball and bring a team back in Montreal.
   61. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: May 16, 2014 at 09:37 AM (#4708010)
Jim Palmer. Not that he'd be crazy enough to take it.
   62. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 16, 2014 at 09:40 AM (#4708012)
If we're talking HoF pitchers "crazy enough to take it," we're talking Steve Carlton, surely.
   63. Ron J2 Posted: May 16, 2014 at 09:47 AM (#4708020)
#62 Not HOF and not a pitcher, but enough crazy to cover both failings. Darren Daulton.
   64. Hal Chase School of Professionalism Posted: May 16, 2014 at 10:27 AM (#4708051)
Vladimir Putin?


More of an NFL-style of leadership.
   65. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 16, 2014 at 10:36 AM (#4708058)
Joe Biden! He'd be awesome.
   66. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: May 16, 2014 at 10:43 AM (#4708064)
Ozzie Guillen. Because that would be amazing.


It would certainly liven up press conferences.
   67. eddieot Posted: May 16, 2014 at 10:53 AM (#4708074)
I vote for Bob Ueker.
   68. Lassus Posted: May 16, 2014 at 10:55 AM (#4708077)
Sean Forman
   69. base ball chick Posted: May 16, 2014 at 11:03 AM (#4708085)
you guys are so silly

the next commish will not be a former player seeing as how almost all former players who are young enough to not be old and feeble are from the free agent era instead of the old reserve clause slavery era when players were rightfully treated as things, not people (sort of, shall we say, like adult females before 1920 in this country)

so the commish has got to be someone whose ONLY interest is increasing profits for the owners, decreasing $$$ for the players as much as possible, making the players look as bad as possible to the Fans (greedy), making sure there are no STARS!!!! like there were with sammy, mark, barry lamar, clemens, jr griffey, johnson. just interchangable laundry to keep the immensly profitable fantasy stuff going - as well as MLBAM

and before you point out good players, who do exist, they are not STARS!!!!! who have any sort of national popularity (jeter and david ortiz coming the closest and they are about gone)

this makes the next commish rob manfred or some other bland business guy. or owner. harvey has stated many times that bud selig is an actual baseball fan. he's usually right about most stuff, but i sure don't see any evidence of that at all
   70. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM (#4708089)
harvey


Nominated.
   71. alilisd Posted: May 16, 2014 at 11:16 AM (#4708097)
Sean Forman


Seconded.
   72. TDF, situational idiot Posted: May 16, 2014 at 11:52 AM (#4708129)
I would have thought Reinsdorf (who seems to be Selig's more evil twin), but he's 78. Likewise, if they went outside of current ownership, George Mitchell is 80 and even GWB is 67. My money would be on an owner similar to Selig/Reinsdorf, but younger - maybe 60ish so he has a similarly long reign.

But my personal choice would be Keith Olbermann.
   73. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 16, 2014 at 11:57 AM (#4708133)
I would have thought Reinsdorf (who seems to be Selig's more evil twin), but he's 78. Likewise, if they went outside of current ownership, George Mitchell is 80 and even GWB is 67. My money would be on an owner similar to Selig/Reinsdorf, but younger - maybe 60ish so he has a similarly long reign.


Hank Steinbrenner is 57, still young and vigorous. To avoid accusations of a conflict of interest he can transfer his ownership of the Yankees to brother Hal. Appointing a successful owner of a profitable large-market team would be a good attempt at balance in baseball's leadership and is long overdue.
   74. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 16, 2014 at 12:02 PM (#4708138)
It would be nice if they chose someone with more leadership skill, foresight, and personal charm than Bud. Of course, you could accomplish all of those goals by picking Pauly Shore, so that doesn't narrow it down much.
   75. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM (#4708140)
Costas, George Will, and Sandy Alderson (!!?)


Why does Sandy get the quizzical mark? If you were restricted to those three, he'd be the best choice by far. He's not an old blowhard like Will, or a slightly younger blowhard like Costas, and unlike them he actually has some relevant experience working on baseball operations in MLB's main office.
   76. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: May 16, 2014 at 12:05 PM (#4708142)
Appointing a successful owner of a profitable large-market team would be a good attempt at balance in baseball's leadership and is long overdue.

Or a GM of a profitable large-market team! There's nothing in the Peter Principle that says Ruben Amaro Jr. can't be promoted FURTHER!
   77. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 16, 2014 at 12:08 PM (#4708147)
It would be nice if they chose someone with more leadership skill, foresight, and personal charm than Bud. Of course, you could accomplish all of those goals by picking Pauly Shore, so that doesn't narrow it down much.


I'd endorse such a move just to see old Bud pass the torch. "Thanks for the job, Bud-dy! (slurpslurpslurp)."

How someone as annoying as Paulie Shore could get popular before the advent of the internet and reality TV astounds me.
   78. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: May 16, 2014 at 12:45 PM (#4708180)
The fact that we're 8 months from when Selig is supposed to step down and they've only now formed the search committee suggests that a decision has basically been made behind the scenes and this search committee is pro forma more than anything else.

I suspect that GWB would be acceptable to most of the owners and I suspect that GWB would relish the opportunity to have a position of some national importance and visibility in order to rehabilitate his legacy somewhat. He's already 67, so it's a job that he'd presumably only have for 5 years or so. With the national television deals in place, his main job will be to keep the antitrust provision in place and be the public figurehead of MLB while allowing the team that's already in place (Manfred, Torre, etc) to keep things running smoothly. The next CBA negotiation would occur during the next commissioner's watch, but regardless of who that commissioner might be I suspect that the negotiations with the players will be handled by Manfred and company while the commissioner will function more as a PR guy as well as keep the owners on board with whatever gets negotiated.

So yeah... I despise the man, but GWB might actually be well-suited for the position.
   79. JL Posted: May 16, 2014 at 01:03 PM (#4708191)
Jack Morris - a proven winner who would will the other owners to follow him. Plus he has the mustache.
   80. Cabbage Posted: May 16, 2014 at 01:05 PM (#4708195)
The fact that we're 8 months from when Selig is supposed to step down and they've only now formed the search committee suggests that a decision has basically been made behind the scenes and this search committee is pro forma more than anything else.


Absolutely. I think Reinsdorf will play kingmaker here. The voters are a handful of billionaires, and their each going to be looking for someone who can protect and build the investment they've put into their franchise. They're going to oppose candidates who would protect and build other franchises at the expense of their own. The basic economic inequalities between the large and small market franchises mean that a successful commish will need to be seen as sympathetic to both camps. This is why Reinsdorf has always had a lot of influence.
   81. Ron J2 Posted: May 16, 2014 at 01:13 PM (#4708203)
#75 I'll always be an Alderson fan just for his response to Richie Phillips' threats. "This is either a threat to be ignored, or an offer to be accepted."
   82. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: May 16, 2014 at 01:19 PM (#4708210)
Jack Morris - a proven winner who would will the other owners to follow him. Plus he has the mustache.

he commissions to the score
   83. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 16, 2014 at 02:18 PM (#4708256)
Donald Trump is forming an exploratory committee to see if he'll run for the position.
   84. deputydrew Posted: May 16, 2014 at 02:21 PM (#4708258)
You'd be wise to bet on a partner at whatever firm gets most of their work. I'm guessing it's Proskauer Rose.
   85. deputydrew Posted: May 16, 2014 at 02:26 PM (#4708267)
The fact that we're 8 months from when Selig is supposed to step down and they've only now formed the search committee suggests that a decision has basically been made behind the scenes and this search committee is pro forma more than anything else.


Why? I'm sure there's a list in existence, but eight months is plenty of time to work through the process.
   86. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: May 16, 2014 at 04:38 PM (#4708409)
Having participated in a few executive-level searches, 8 months for an open national search is not a lot of time. 12-18 months would be more common when the departure date of the outgoing person has been known for so long. My experience has been that when the hiring cycle gets shortened, it's almost always because a decision has essentially already been made, but a search is an exercise initiated to satisfy the expectations of a minority of stakeholders.

The other advantage of GWB is that he has an international profile that would be far greater than any other candidate. As MLB looks to expand globally, that's an non-trivial attribute.
   87. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 16, 2014 at 04:47 PM (#4708417)
The other advantage of GWB is that he has an international profile that would be far greater than any other candidate. As MLB looks to expand globally, that's an non-trivial attribute.


Yeah, but most other countries hate him and think he's an idiot. Is that really a positive, compared to an unknown quantity?
   88. TDF, situational idiot Posted: May 16, 2014 at 05:06 PM (#4708431)
The other advantage of GWB is that he has an international profile that would be far greater than any other candidate. As MLB looks to expand globally, that's an non-trivial attribute.

Yeah, but most other countries hate him and think he's an idiot.
Well, most baseball fans hate the current guy and think he's an idiot, so the owners probably don't see a problem.
   89. Leroy Kincaid Posted: May 16, 2014 at 08:16 PM (#4708522)
Michael Chiklis.
   90. Morty Causa Posted: May 17, 2014 at 12:42 AM (#4708613)
Ted Williams's head. (Futurama had Nixon's head, so you got precedent.)
   91. Jick Posted: May 17, 2014 at 12:44 AM (#4708614)
Scott Boras.
   92. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: May 17, 2014 at 05:46 AM (#4708631)
Yeah, but most other countries hate him and think he's an idiot. Is that really a positive, compared to an unknown quantity?

That poll was taken in 2008. Nothing makes a president look better than time away from the job; hell, even Nixon and Carter get respect these days. (So, buck up, Obama fans!)
   93. Swedish Chef Posted: May 17, 2014 at 06:05 AM (#4708633)
Yeah, but most other countries hate him and think he's an idiot. Is that really a positive, compared to an unknown quantity?

That's irrelevant, what does the polls of billionaires and politicians say?

Not that he has a chance against Curt Schilling, the perfect man for the job.
   94. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 17, 2014 at 07:27 AM (#4708639)
That's irrelevant, what does the polls of billionaires and politicians say?


Oh they think he's an idiot too, but he's the right sort of idiot.

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