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Wednesday, July 26, 2006

MLB.com: Tribe ships Broussard to M’s for Choo

That was ... unexpected. The Mariners complete the acquisition of the Indians’ 1B platoon.

The Indians continued their midseason trading spree Wednesday by shipping first baseman Ben Broussard and cash to the Mariners for outfielder Shin-Soo Choo and a player to be named later.

Matthew Rich Posted: July 26, 2006 at 09:40 PM | 67 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Sean McNally Posted: July 26, 2006 at 09:49 PM (#2113703)
WTF?

So Seattle has acquired both halves of Cleveland's first base platoon? For more starts by Martinez at first? Is he that bad behind the plate? Seems like you really reduce his value by sticking him at first rather than catcher.
   2. Mike Emeigh Posted: July 26, 2006 at 09:53 PM (#2113709)
That was ... unexpected.


To put it mildly.

This clears space for someone, I guess - Garko or Marte - and I suppose it's an admission on Shapiro's part that it's time to start looking at next year. Choo's not a lot of return, though; I want to see who the PTBNL is.

-- MWE
   3. Daunte Vicknabbit! Posted: July 26, 2006 at 09:57 PM (#2113713)
This clears space for someone, I guess - Garko or Marte - and I suppose it's an admission on Shapiro's part that it's time to start looking at next year. Choo's not a lot of return, though; I want to see who the PTBNL is.


Obviously you're a lot more educated on these things than I am, but I personally feel that, all things considered, the Indians have done a good job in getting rid of both of their guys for Cabrera, Choo, and whoever the PTBNL is. I liked Choo a lot more 2 years ago than I do today, but I still think he could settle in as a decent CF (possibly league average if he learns to field the position) or a good 4th OFer, which is an ok return IMO for an old part that you really don't need anymore, especially with this season in the tank.
   4. Halofan Posted: July 26, 2006 at 09:57 PM (#2113714)
Choo's age is mentioned in the article, Broussard's is not.

Is that an oversight or deference to a veteran, much like a Hollywood starlet would get?
   5. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:02 PM (#2113720)
I'm guessing this clears the way for Martinez at first and all-Shoppach, all the time behind the plate. Either that, or Mike's notion about Garko.
   6. David Cameron Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:03 PM (#2113721)
Since this trade killed USSM, I'll stick this here for the Indians fans who care what I think:

Choo will be a useful major league role player for the next few years, especially while he makes nothing. I've been calling him Todd Hollandsworth with an accent for the past few months.

He's got a long swing and is vulnerable to pitches in. He doesn't hit breaking balls well. He can't hit lefties at all - like 8 or 60 or something in Tacoma against LHP's. This is a problem every year, not a new thing. He takes terrible routes in the outfield - just has no instincts whatsoever. His defense, even in the corners, isn't very good. And he's not much of a baserunner.

However, he can hit a fastball, has batspeed, an absolute cannon arm, and can run a little bit. His plate discipline is fine - he's probably too patient at times - and he'll draw his share of walks.

I've projected him as a .270/.340/.450 guy, which is a nice fourth outfielder who should play strictly against RHP's. If he's used right, nothing wrong with that.
   7. Matthew Rich Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:07 PM (#2113724)
I don't think Martinez will be at 1B full-time. At least, I hope and pray not.

Garko hasn't really done anything at the plate this year though. But if they just brought up Marte that would mean Victor is the only guy on the roster who could really play 1B. I dunno, it looks to me like there has to be another move involved here, even if it is just DFA'ing Boone.

It would be cool if they brought up Marte to play 3B and Kouzmanoff to play 1B.
   8. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:11 PM (#2113729)
I've been calling him Todd Hollandsworth with an accent for the past few months.

Funny - my first reaction when I saw his numbers is that he looked like a faster, younger Todd Hollandsworth.

I don't think this means Martinez to first, full-time, forever. Clearly he'll be at first for the rest of the season, but they could just as easily move Blake, Hafner, or Garko to first in '07 and beyond.

Broussard's a pretty decent player - probably a lot better than a lot of people think - but he's a butcher defensively.

Worst-case scenario for Cleveland, it ends up like Gerut-Dubois: Much ado about nothing.
   9. Matthew Rich Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:16 PM (#2113731)
http://indians.scout.com/2/550005.html
Shapiro said that Casey Blake would play first base against left-handed pitching with catcher Victor Martinez being used at that position more against lefty pitchers.


But Choo can't hit lefties at all. So the outfield vs. LHP is Michaels, Sizemore, ???
   10. buddy34 Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:18 PM (#2113732)
broussard can't hit lefties at all, and this is the first season he's done anything very interesting. he's also terrible defensively. to get cabrera, choo and another player for the platoon of perez-broussard is outstanding return.
   11. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:19 PM (#2113733)
the outfield vs. LHP is Michaels, Sizemore, ???

Hollandsworth? Inglett?

Kouzmanoff?

/wishful thinking
   12. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:21 PM (#2113735)
I've been calling him Todd Hollandsworth with an accent for the past few months.

I didn't realize you had an accent
   13. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:28 PM (#2113737)
Without thinking...good trade for the Indians. Now I'll read what everyone else has said.
   14. Dr. Death Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:28 PM (#2113740)
So who's the next to go? Boone? Mota? And will they really trade Westbrook who several teams seem to like? I'd rather they try to trade Byrd.
   15. Tony H. Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:33 PM (#2113743)
Let's see, here. Long swing, can't hit lefties. Sounds like... Ben Broussard!

So Beatbox Bennie's gone. Seems like a good guy, but I for one will not miss him. Good job of Shapiro selling high. Don't know much about Choo, but at first glance it seems the Cabrera/Perez trade was a better one from the Indians perspective. That one looks like a great deal.

And the Mariners are coming to Cleveland on Friday. That'll be weird.
   16. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:34 PM (#2113745)
Welcome back, Dr. Death. Haven't seen you in these parts for a while.

I can't imagine anyone would trade anything for Mota, and Boone will probably just get cut. My money's on Belliard - he's a pretty good player, he's a free agent at the end of the year, Inglett's playing really well, and Ronnie can play a few positions.
   17. Dr. Death Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:41 PM (#2113751)
The only team I heard might be remotely interested in Mota was Texas, I think. I'm curious about Westbrook and Byrd. I hear Arizona really wants Jake. If Belliard goes, does Inglett play second? And if Inglett plays 2nd then who plays with Michaels and Sizemore against lefties. No offense to Hollandsworth but I'd rather see a young guy get more PA's. Plus what if they trade Hollandsworth.
   18. shoewizard Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:41 PM (#2113752)
So does this open up CF for Ichiro, and a trade for Shawn Green to come play RF for the M's, so they can make a run at this thing?

I'm just asking.
   19. Tony H. Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:46 PM (#2113756)
Shapiro said that Casey Blake would play first base against left-handed pitching with catcher Victor Martinez being used at that position more against lefty pitchers.


Surely this is just a misprint. I would think that Casey would be played at first against righties, with Vic playing there against lefties. Then the outfield vs. righties would be Michaels/Sizemore/Choo with Casey at first and against lefties it would be Michaels/Sizemore/Blake with Vic at first. That is the only thing that makes sense.

Belliard should be the next to go. I like him too, but it's time to see if Inglett can handle the job full time. He's looked good so far, but he's got to prove himself the rest of the season to win me over. I still see him as a utility guy, personally.

Boone is obviously going to be gone soon, thank merciful god. I don't see anyone else being dealt, unless we can find a taker for Mota. But Shapiro seems intent on overhauling this team, so I doubt there are many people off-limits. I'm his biggest fan, but maybe we can get somebody to take Casey Blake off our hands as well.
   20. Tony H. Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:48 PM (#2113759)
Also, from cleveland.com Paul Hoynes writes this: For the last two years manager Eric Wedge and Broussard have not seen eye-to-eye.

Does anyone else know anything about this? I have never seen/heard a single mention of this ever.
   21. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:50 PM (#2113760)
He's got a long swing and is vulnerable to pitches in. He doesn't hit breaking balls well. He can't hit lefties at all - like 8 or 60 or something in Tacoma against LHP's. This is a problem every year, not a new thing. He takes terrible routes in the outfield - just has no instincts whatsoever. His defense, even in the corners, isn't very good. And he's not much of a baserunner.

Aside from that, though, he's a nice guy who looks good in a uniform.
   22. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:51 PM (#2113761)
I'm curious about Westbrook and Byrd. I hear Arizona really wants Jake.

levski and I sort of (unintentionally) ran through a potential Westbrook trade negotiation a couple days ago in another thread. It went something like:

AZ: We'll give you Scott Hairston.
CLE: He's 26 and a terrible defensive second baseman. We'd need more.
AZ: Have you seen Hairston's numbers this year at Tucson?
CLE: They're really good, but they're PCL-bloated, he's 26, and he's a terrible defensive second baseman. We'd need a better prospect.
AZ: He can play left.
CLE: Yeah, but how much better is he than Michaels? Is Carlos Gonzalez available?
AZ: We're not going to mortgage the future to win now.
CLE: We're not going to give you a league average starter for a year and a half unless you make it worth our while. We'll be able to get a Grade B prospect for Jake this time next year - we're not in any hurry.
AZ: Okay. If you change your mind, let us know.
   23. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:56 PM (#2113763)
Does anyone else know anything about this? I have never seen/heard a single mention of this ever.

Remember last year when Jeff Liefer got a bunch of starts at first? That's why he got all those starts - from what I heard, Wedge was pissed that Broussard was spending so much time on his music while his OBP was hovering around .300.

Also, I heard from a media member who went to the Jake earlier this month that Broussard was "persona non-grata in the room". (Direct quote from the e-mail I got.)
   24. Tony H. Posted: July 26, 2006 at 11:09 PM (#2113771)
Ah, cool, thanks. I did not know that.
   25. The Hop-Clop Goes On (psa1) Posted: July 27, 2006 at 12:00 AM (#2113796)
Choo vs LHP: .205/.272/.233 in 73 AB. That's too bad, since he's got the 14th best OPS vs. RHP in the Minors this year.
   26. MM1f Posted: July 27, 2006 at 12:32 AM (#2113850)
(from the link in 25)

Hey look! Rico Washingtons still around and actually doing really good things
   27. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 27, 2006 at 12:38 AM (#2113866)
from what I heard, Wedge was pissed that Broussard was spending so much time on his music while his OBP was hovering around .300.

Wow, I didn't know Broussard was a musician.

In fact, he has an album of original songs! Bronson Arroyo is a parasitic cover band.
   28. Matthew Rich Posted: July 27, 2006 at 12:40 AM (#2113870)
"persona non-grata in the room"

What room?
   29. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 27, 2006 at 12:44 AM (#2113874)
What room?

Locker room. My 'source' is a hockey guy. That's how hockey people talk, apparently.
   30. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 27, 2006 at 12:47 AM (#2113881)
he has an album of original songs!

Yeah, I've got it. It's okay - nothing special, but certainly better than you'd expect from a pro athlete. If one of his songs came on the radio, I wouldn't change the channel, but if I was flipping around and came across a Ben Broussard song I'd probably just keep flipping.
   31. Darren Posted: July 27, 2006 at 01:11 AM (#2113931)
All Choo has done is hit well in the minors. I like him a lot and there's still a chance he'll develop more power. It'll be interesting to see if his defensive rep (bad) is deserved.
   32. Len Lansford, Carney Barker Posted: July 27, 2006 at 01:17 AM (#2113949)
We have hockey guys in Cleveland?
   33. Matthew Rich Posted: July 27, 2006 at 01:38 AM (#2113985)
So Dan you're saying his teammates didn't like him either? The writers? Just Wedge? I'm confused.
   34. Mike Emeigh Posted: July 27, 2006 at 02:10 AM (#2114024)
All Choo has done is hit well in the minors.


His Wisconsin numbers were good, but an .824 OPS at Inland Empire, an .844 OPS at San Antonio, and an .813 OPS at Tacoma (all good-to-excellent hitting environments) isn't exactly what I'd call hitting "well". He also fails to make contact an awful lot for someone with as little power as he has. Choo's got a huge home/road split at Tacoma, too (.384/.462/.566 at home, .280/.333/.450 on the road in '06).

there's still a chance he'll develop more power.


He's 24, 5'11", 210. If he hasn't developed it by now, I don't know where he's going to get it from.

I think that David Cameron's assessment is spot-on. He's shown (almost literally) *no* improvement from Day 1 in the minors; what he was four years ago is what he is today.

-- MWE
   35. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: July 27, 2006 at 02:16 AM (#2114040)
How's Marte been in AAA this year?
   36. David Cameron Posted: July 27, 2006 at 02:18 AM (#2114043)
His Wisconsin numbers were good, but an .824 OPS at Inland Empire, an .844 OPS at San Antonio, and an .813 OPS at Tacoma (all good-to-excellent hitting environments) isn't exactly what I'd call hitting "well".

Actually, Woolf Stadium in San Antonio and Cheney Stadium in Tacoma are both extremely pitcher friendly. The HR factor on Woolf is absurd - Missions pitchers have a .46 HR/9 at home and 1.14 on the road this year. It's almost impossible to hit one out there. Cheney's the best pitchers park in the PCL, too.

Choo's got a huge home/road split at Tacoma, too (.384/.462/.566 at home, .280/.333/.450 on the road in '06).

This is almost certainly just a sample size fluke. Cheney's not an easy place to hit.

He's 24, 5'11", 210. If he hasn't developed it by now, I don't know where he's going to get it from.

He doesn't have a power hitter swing, either. He rolls over his wrists and doesn't get enough juice from his legs, in addition to the long swing. There's not much more power there to tap.

But, yea, overall, we're on the same page - Choo's a fourth outfielder in the majors. I just wanted to clarify the other points.
   37. MM1f Posted: July 27, 2006 at 02:28 AM (#2114068)
"How's Marte been in AAA this year?"

Decent at best (263/325/455=780 OPS). Started REALLLY slow (.225 in May, tho April was only mediocre) but has come on the last month or two (1.027 OPS in June). Tore up the AAA HR derby

Fun cool Marte splits
http://www.minorleaguesplits.com/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?pl=429708&tm=BufIL&bp=b

overall line
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/stats/player.php?id=429708
   38. MM1f Posted: July 27, 2006 at 02:30 AM (#2114073)
Oh and his OPS vs LHP (930) is almost 200 points higher than vs RHP (only 750)
   39. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: July 27, 2006 at 03:12 AM (#2114221)
Rico Washington is awesome. Probably my favorite washed-out Pirate prospect of all time.

Well, either him or Ron Wright.
   40. Boots Day Posted: July 27, 2006 at 03:13 AM (#2114225)
I've projected him as a .270/.340/.450 guy, which is a nice fourth outfielder who should play strictly against RHP's.

Choo Freeman is a nice fourth outfielder who's hitting .327/.397/.404 against LHPs. A Choo/Choo platoon would be awfully tasty.
   41. The Ancient Mariner Posted: July 27, 2006 at 03:38 AM (#2114284)
Dave, what's your take on this trade from the M's end? Seems to me we gave up less and got more than the last time we dealt with the Indians . . .
   42. The Ancient Mariner Posted: July 27, 2006 at 03:39 AM (#2114286)
Oops--forgot about the PTBNL. Any hint what names might be on that list, what caliber of player we'll be giving up?
   43. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 27, 2006 at 06:20 AM (#2114347)
So Dan you're saying his teammates didn't like him either? The writers? Just Wedge? I'm confused.

His teammates were acting a bit funny around him that day, apparently.
   44. MM1f Posted: July 27, 2006 at 06:28 AM (#2114355)
Holy crap..Snelling still hasnt turned 25?
   45. NTNgod Posted: July 27, 2006 at 06:33 AM (#2114359)
Holy crap..Snelling still hasnt turned 25?

Yet he appears to have the body of a 50-year old man. Amazing, isn't it?

I bet the folks at John Hopkins will be very interested in studying him when he's passed on :)
   46. MM1f Posted: July 27, 2006 at 06:40 AM (#2114363)
Fun Fact-Shea Hillenbrand is #6 on PETE REISERs bb-ref comp list...wtf?!?

I post it here because i was looking at Reisers major league numbers as he came to mind while of course thinking of Snelling. That Fields piece on Reiser is amazing and turns a damn baseball injury into a truly heartwrenching event
   47. MM1f Posted: July 27, 2006 at 06:45 AM (#2114367)
And by Fields of course i mean HEINZ
   48. Eraser-X is emphatically dominating teh site!!! Posted: July 27, 2006 at 06:57 AM (#2114375)
Since my team's season has gone in the crapper, I would love to see a Choo/Choo platoon.
   49. baudib Posted: July 27, 2006 at 08:34 AM (#2114396)
Pete Reiser is Lenny Dykstra.
   50. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: July 27, 2006 at 08:40 AM (#2114400)
I bet the folks at John Hopkins will be very interested in studying him when he's passed on :)


It's an Aussie thing. I once had knee surgury because I walked down the stairs the wrong way...
   51. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: July 27, 2006 at 08:41 AM (#2114401)
Thanks MM1F with regards to the Marte question.
   52. A.T.F.W. Posted: July 27, 2006 at 11:35 AM (#2114413)
Boone is obviously going to be gone soon, thank merciful god.

You don't think an actual MLB team would trade for him, do you?
   53. David Cameron Posted: July 27, 2006 at 01:40 PM (#2114470)
Dave, what's your take on this trade from the M's end? Seems to me we gave up less and got more than the last time we dealt with the Indians . . .


I posted a little bit longer summary at lookoutlanding, thanks to Jeff Sullivan. But yea, I like this deal. I've never been a big Choo supporter, and I think Broussard is what we hoped Choo might become (LH platoon hitter with no defensive value). Broussard being under control for 2 more years after this one helps too.

I definitely like this better than Cabrera for Perez.
   54. Boomer Posted: July 27, 2006 at 01:57 PM (#2114482)
What's the deal with Choo and his required service in the South Korean army? Has that been waived or does he still have to go do two years starting this off-season?
   55. Mike Emeigh Posted: July 27, 2006 at 02:00 PM (#2114485)
Fox Sports has Snelling listed in the transactions as going back to the minors, FWIW. I can't find confirmation of that anywhere else.

According to the Mariners' Web site, the PTBNL will be a minor leaguer and will be announced by August 31.

Actually, Woolf Stadium in San Antonio and Cheney Stadium in Tacoma are both extremely pitcher friendly. The HR factor on Woolf is absurd - Missions pitchers have a .46 HR/9 at home and 1.14 on the road this year. It's almost impossible to hit one out there. Cheney's the best pitchers park in the PCL, too.


My point was that the TL and PCL are hitter-friendly environments as a whole, and was not specific to the ballparks involved. I don't doubt that Tacoma is the best park for pitchers in the PCL or that San Antonio is tougher than any other park in the TL; that doesn't mean that either would show a similar level of pitcher friendliness if Tacoma were in the IL, or San Antonio in the SL or EL.

-- MWE
   56. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 27, 2006 at 02:04 PM (#2114487)
What's the deal with Choo and his required service in the South Korean army? Has that been waived or does he still have to go do two years starting this off-season?

AFAIK his service hasn't been waived, though he could just choose to not go back to Korea.

They waived conscription for the players on the WBC team, but he didn't make the roster.
   57. JPWF13 Posted: July 27, 2006 at 02:10 PM (#2114489)
Fun Fact-Shea Hillenbrand is #6 on PETE REISERs bb-ref comp list...wtf?!?

I post it here because i was looking at Reisers major league numbers as he came to mind while of course thinking of Snelling.


Context context

Reiser hit .295-58-368
Hillendbrand has hit .288-83-391

But Hilly has put up his .288/.327/.448 line in a vastly more hitter friendly era than when Reiser put up his .295/.380/.450 line

Reiser has a much higher OPS+(128) and EQA(.300) than Hilly (100) and (.260) respectively.
If BBref adjsuted their comparison formula to take OPS+ into account (and perhaps give a higher weight to things like K/BB and OBP) this wouldn't happen- Hillenbrand and Reiser wouldn't be on eachother's comp lists.
   58. NTNgod Posted: July 27, 2006 at 02:11 PM (#2114490)
Fox Sports has Snelling listed in the transactions as going back to the minors, FWIW.

He was sent back after the game yesterday:
Seattle P-I
   59. David Cameron Posted: July 27, 2006 at 02:24 PM (#2114501)
My point was that the TL and PCL are hitter-friendly environments as a whole, and was not specific to the ballparks involved. I don't doubt that Tacoma is the best park for pitchers in the PCL or that San Antonio is tougher than any other park in the TL; that doesn't mean that either would show a similar level of pitcher friendliness if Tacoma were in the IL, or San Antonio in the SL or EL.

Cheney's historically been one of the most extreme pitcher's parks in professional baseball. You could put it in the Florida State League and it would still be pitcher friendly.

Woolf is weird - I don't know of any park in the world that is is as anti-HR as it is, but it doesn't suppress run scoring overall to that same degree. It's pitcher friendly, but not extremely pitcher friendly. It's just darn near impossible to hit one out there.
   60. AROM Posted: July 27, 2006 at 02:42 PM (#2114515)
I've projected him as a .270/.340/.450 guy, which is a nice fourth outfielder who should play strictly against RHP's. If he's used right, nothing wrong with that.

That sounds like a pretty good player to me. He's fast with a good arm, sounds like a good defender. How is his defense actually? Could he give them what they lost in Coco Crisp?
   61. David Cameron Posted: July 27, 2006 at 03:00 PM (#2114536)
That sounds like a pretty good player to me. He's fast with a good arm, sounds like a good defender. How is his defense actually? Could he give them what they lost in Coco Crisp?

He has footspeed, but not baseball speed. He doesn't run the bases particularly well, despite the high SB totals.

His defense is bad. He struggles to read the ball coming off the bat, has a poor first step, lousy instincts, and takes some ridiculous routes to the ball. He's completely lost in center, and just not good in a corner. Mike Goff, who transformed Mike Morse from one of the worst defensive players I've ever seen into merely being not good (a miracle, truly), basically told the organization that Choo wasn't going to get any better defensively no matter how much they worked with him.

He's nothing close to Coco Crisp. He's more like a LH Eric Byrnes. Or, the aforementioned Todd Hollandsworth.
   62. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: July 27, 2006 at 03:29 PM (#2114566)
Poor Snelling - I hope that they told him before his callup that it was probably going to be a one-nighter.
   63. Pregnant women are Mug Posted: July 27, 2006 at 03:58 PM (#2114581)
Well, it's better than Snelling being up and not playing.
   64. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: July 27, 2006 at 04:52 PM (#2114610)
He has footspeed, but not baseball speed. He doesn't run the bases particularly well, despite the high SB totals.

Which is actually strikingly similar to Coco Crisp, now that I think about it.
   65. vortex of dissipation Posted: July 27, 2006 at 06:18 PM (#2114678)
48. Eraser-X is dominating this site! Posted: July 27, 2006 at 02:57 AM (#2114375)

Since my team's season has gone in the crapper, I would love to see a Choo/Choo platoon.


With Ten Years After's "Choo Choo Mama" as entrance music?
   66. Mike Emeigh Posted: July 27, 2006 at 10:05 PM (#2114891)
Change of plans. From MLB.com:

Seattle Mariners
Placed OF Chris Snelling on the 15-day disabled list with an impingement in his left shoulder.


I'm shocked.

-- MWE
   67. MM1f Posted: July 28, 2006 at 07:53 AM (#2115299)
ummmmm
wtf
now things have changed AGAIN
http://minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2006_07_27_nozaaa_tacaaa_1
That would be a box score saying Snelling hit third, DH'd and went 0-3 with 2 Ks and a walk in Tacomas 9-2 loss to New Orleans on the night of July 27...as in, last night when he was on the DL.

Did the Mariners somehow DL him and immediately send him to rehab? and if so would there be any point to this

i assume theres just some confusion w media outlets as far as what the Ms really did with him

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