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Thursday, January 17, 2013

MLB.com: US roster for Classic has stars, desire to win

As expected, it looks great at the plate and in the field but suspect on the mound.

2013 Team USA roster
Player Pos. Team
Mark Teixeira 1B Yankees
Brandon Phillips 2B Reds
Jimmy Rollins SS Phillies
David Wright 3B Mets
Joe Mauer C Twins
Ryan Braun LF Brewers
Adam Jones CF Orioles
Giancarlo Stanton RF Marlins
Ben Zobrist INF Rays
Willie Bloomquist INF D-backs
Shane Victorino OF Red Sox
Jonathan Lucroy C Brewers
J.P. Arencibia C Blue Jays
R.A. Dickey SP Blue Jays
Ryan Vogelsong SP Giants
Derek Holland SP Rangers
Kris Medlen SP Braves
Craig Kimbrel RP Braves
Heath Bell RP D-backs
Chris Perez RP Indians
Vinnie Pestano RP Indians
Luke Gregerson RP Padres
Glen Perkins RP Twins
Steve Cishek RP Marlins
Jeremy Affeldt RP Giants
Tim Collins RP Royals
Mitchell Boggs RP Cardinals

Gamingboy Posted: January 17, 2013 at 11:38 AM | 46 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: international, usa, wbc, world baseball classic

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   1. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: January 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM (#4349017)
That's a pretty amazing roster, actually. Still a bit light on pitching - starting pitching primarily - but I'll take it.

   2. dr. scott Posted: January 17, 2013 at 12:34 PM (#4349045)
I don’t know if its light on starting pitching. There are few MLB clubs that would not love that starting 4. All above average pitchers with streaks a greatness over the past couple of years (not sure about Holland with streaks of greatness though). Compared to the offence though, its not as strong.

What about defense though? I don’t know much about the defense of Braun, Jones or Stanton, and i expect the infield defense is far from their prime.

In other news I just found out that Jones and I share a birthday.
   3. Dan Posted: January 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM (#4349056)
not sure about Holland with streaks of greatness though


Holland has absolutely had streaks of greatness. He threw 4 complete game shutouts in 2011. His issue seems to be that when he's off, he's just abysmal.
   4. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: January 17, 2013 at 01:26 PM (#4349133)
We've got Bloomquist? We can't lose!
   5. Adam B. Posted: January 17, 2013 at 01:28 PM (#4349137)
Pettitte was apparently left off the team because they couldn't get insurance for him.
   6. Tom Nawrocki Posted: January 17, 2013 at 01:32 PM (#4349141)
I don’t know if its light on starting pitching. There are few MLB clubs that would not love that starting 4.


The starting rotation really isn't all that important. Are any of those guys going to pitch more than three innings in a game?
   7. Gamingboy Posted: January 17, 2013 at 01:35 PM (#4349143)
Apparently the 28th and final roster spot is being held for another starter.

Presumably the starter is Justin Verlander, who will be forced to pitch despite intense pressure from the Tigers when Bud Selig kidnaps Kate Upton and tells Verlander that if he doesn't go 6 against Venezuela she will be known as "Katherine Selig."
   8. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: January 17, 2013 at 01:37 PM (#4349148)
Even understanding the different dynamics at work in the WBC, it's still mildly amusing to see some of the players on what is, theoretically, an American All-Star Team.

Bloomquist! Arencibia! Pestano! Collins!

Now, Pestano and Collins are pretty darn good set-up men, but it's still odd to think of them in this kind of position.

At least Francoeur's not on the team again.
   9. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: January 17, 2013 at 01:38 PM (#4349149)
Willie Bloomquist INF D-backs


*shakes head*

This always seems like an excellent opportunity to me to use American players plying their trade in Japan and succeeding. They'd jump at the chance at having what would amount to a try out.
   10. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 17, 2013 at 01:49 PM (#4349163)
I would assume Bloomquist is there just to serve as protection in case they have a lineup crunch and they need a warm body out there to play any position. I don't think you want stars playing out of position, you want a scrub out there.
   11. KT's Pot Arb Posted: January 17, 2013 at 02:05 PM (#4349184)
Compared to the offence though, its not as strong.


We don't know how good the offense is because we don't know how many PAs are going to be given to Bloomquist. Since he's an all time HOF level "gamer" I expect him to start every game, play every inning, plus pinch hit, so he should be able to produce 5-7 outs at the plate per game on average.
   12. BourbonSamurai Is a Lazy Nogoodnik Posted: January 17, 2013 at 02:08 PM (#4349186)
Willie fricking bloomquist?
   13. Gamingboy Posted: January 17, 2013 at 02:08 PM (#4349187)

I would assume Bloomquist is there just to serve as protection in case they have a lineup crunch and they need a warm body out there to play any position. I don't think you want stars playing out of position, you want a scrub out there.


That's roughly why he is there (although to be fair, he did hit .302 last season). That's also why Ben Zobrist is on the team, although he admittedly would be a good pick no matter what. Mark DeRosa had a similar role in 2009's classic.
   14. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: January 17, 2013 at 02:11 PM (#4349189)
Zobrist is a fine addition. A legit, though underrated star.
   15. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: January 17, 2013 at 02:15 PM (#4349193)
How many guys do you think we can list that can play second, third and short and one of the corners (and they don't have to play them all very well since Willie doesn't) that would jump at the chance and are better players? Hell I'll even spot you a hard one in Trevor Plouffe. I was able to come up with about nine Americans who are slam dunk better at this stage of Willie's career.
   16. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 17, 2013 at 02:39 PM (#4349213)
Players that played 2B, SS, 3B, LF, RF in the last five seasons that posted a better OPS+ than Willie Bloomquist (82)

Ben Zobrist
Oscar Salazar
Todd Frazier
Martin Prado
Fernando Tatis
Mark DeRosa
Omar Infante
Jerry Hairston
Ty Wigginton
Joe Inglett
Trevor Plouffe
Pedro Circiao
Ryan Roberts
Felipe Lopez
Jamey Carroll
Drew Sutton
Mike Aviles
Edgar Gonzalez
Willie Harris
Matt Downs
Eduardo Nunez
Elian Herrera
Jolbert Cabera
Sean Rodriguez

But Willie can bunt.
   17. JJ1986 Posted: January 17, 2013 at 02:43 PM (#4349218)
Ty Wigginton played SS?
   18. Gamingboy Posted: January 17, 2013 at 02:49 PM (#4349226)
Of course, knowing the way baseball works, Willie Bloomquist will probably end up getting the game-winning hit or something.
   19. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: January 17, 2013 at 02:51 PM (#4349229)
Players that played 2B, SS, 3B, LF, RF in the last five seasons that posted a better OPS+ than Willie Bloomquist (82)


How many of those guys are:
a) better than Bloomquist now, and
b) available to play on the US team?

I agree Bloomquist looks like a bad joke, but citing what Willie Harris did 4 and 5 years ago (he played 24 games last year and had a -1 OPS+), or Mark Derosa ( 2 of the last 3 years was below 50 OPS+ and hasn't played SS since 2006) is a worse one.
   20. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 17, 2013 at 02:53 PM (#4349232)
Somehow I thought Kris Medlen was Australian.
   21. JJ1986 Posted: January 17, 2013 at 02:59 PM (#4349238)
a) better than Bloomquist now, and
b) available to play on the US team?


Zobrist, Frazier, Plouffe, Roberts, S-Rod. Aviles is eligible, but might rather play for another team.
   22. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 17, 2013 at 03:00 PM (#4349241)
Willie Harris, Mark DeRosa, Joe Inglett, and Jamey Carroll are more washed up than Bloomquist. Ty Wigginton cannot play middle infield anymore. Oscar Salazar, Martin Prado, Pedro Ciriaco, Omar Infante, Elian Herrera, Eduardo Nunez, Fernando Tatis, and Jolbert Cabrera aren't American, and the last two have been retired for years. Felipe Lopez is Puerto Rican though I guess he would be eligible. Zobrist is already on the team.

That leaves Todd Frazier, Matt Downs, Drew Sutton, Jerry Hairston Jr, Mike Aviles, Trevor Plouffe, Ryan Roberts, Sean Rodriguez, and Edgar Gonzalez. Probably a couple better options in there, but I don't see a big difference.
   23. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: January 17, 2013 at 03:06 PM (#4349243)
Looking at 21 & 22 Frazier is the one guy on the list that seems to represent a meaningful upgrade. I don't know if he's really a shortstop enough at this point to fit the bill. Bloomquist might fit a more true middle infielder and I don't know if Frazier is interested in playing.
   24. The District Attorney Posted: January 17, 2013 at 03:11 PM (#4349248)
Somehow I thought Kris Medlen was Australian.
May have been thinking of his teammate (or the same team at approximately the same time, I dunno) Peter Moylan.
   25. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: January 17, 2013 at 03:13 PM (#4349250)
That leaves Todd Frazier, Matt Downs, Drew Sutton, Jerry Hairston Jr, Mike Aviles, Trevor Plouffe, Ryan Roberts, Sean Rodriguez, and Edgar Gonzalez. Probably a couple better options in there, but I don't see a big difference.


I agree, especially since he will be the last guy off the bench. I'm more concerned that the pitching staff doesn't include any of Verlander, Kershaw, Cain, Price, Shields, Hamels, Weaver, Halladay, Lee, or Sale.
   26. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 17, 2013 at 03:20 PM (#4349261)
Aviles played for Puerto Rico in 2009 FWIW.
   27. Gamingboy Posted: January 17, 2013 at 03:25 PM (#4349266)
Peter Moylan.


Moylan is now with the Dodgers. Great story actually, since he was re-discovered by MLB scouts in the first WBC. I saw that Medlen is actually going to wear 58 in honor of Moylan since Chris Perez has 54.
   28. puck Posted: January 17, 2013 at 03:48 PM (#4349281)
Pettitte was apparently left off the team because they couldn't get insurance for him.

Sounds like the same issue with Tulowitzki. He wanted to play but the WBC folks responsible for insurance wanted to see him play first.
   29. Esoteric Posted: January 17, 2013 at 04:01 PM (#4349287)
That's a pretty amazing roster, actually. Still a bit light on pitching - starting pitching primarily - but I'll take it.
I dunno, that's a pretty damn effective rotation and bullpen if you ask me. Getting both Kris Medlen and Craig Kimbrel from the Braves is a coup in particular, though having the reigning Cy Young winner anchoring the rotation ain't shabby either. Team U.S.A. is looking formidable.

Hey, remember back when people expressed a lot of doubt as to whether the WBC was going to be worth it? I very much remember people (around here, too!) predicting it would be a big bust. It's been fantastic every time. Still remember Bert Blyleven's Dutch honkballers making their run like it was yesterday.
   30. Esoteric Posted: January 17, 2013 at 04:03 PM (#4349288)
Somehow I thought Kris Medlen was Australian.
That's funny, because I can see why. It's the name. A male Kris with a "K" seems either Australian or South African.
   31. Gamingboy Posted: January 17, 2013 at 04:04 PM (#4349290)
Hey, remember back when people expressed a lot of doubt as to whether the WBC was going to be worth it? I very much remember people (around here, too!) predicting it would be a big bust. It's been fantastic every time. Still remember Bert Blyleven's Dutch honkballers making their run like it was yesterday.


You do have to say that when the fact that Team USA isn't as kick-ass as it could be is the thing people are complaining about the most, something is going right. I remember reading some person predicting that the first would also be the last. Now, however, it makes so much money (I remember reading somewhere that at one point there was a Venezuelan jersey being bought once every six seconds during a game a few years back) that it'll be sticking around for awhile.
   32. Esoteric Posted: January 17, 2013 at 04:07 PM (#4349292)
You do have to say that when the fact that Team USA isn't as kick-ass as it could be is the thing people are complaining about the most, something is going right. I remember reading some person predicting that the first would also be the last. Now, however, it makes so much money (I remember reading somewhere that at one point there was a Venezuelan jersey being bought once every six seconds during a game a few years back) that it'll be sticking around for awhile.
It also led to some truly fantastic gamethreads around here, driven largely by you if I recall.

Probably the wrong thread to delve into it, but the WBC is yet another reason why Bud Selig really can make a strong argument as the best Commissioner in MLB history, even despite the Strike and the steroids scandals and the fact that he has the personality of an enbalmed cucumber.
   33. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: January 17, 2013 at 04:13 PM (#4349299)
washed up...Jamey Carroll

Carroll easily outplayed Bloomquist last year.

First off, he's not gonna need to play the outfield and even if he does, anyone agile enough to play shortstop can fake it in left and right without a whole lot of trouble.

My guys were Jerry Hairston, Plouffe, Sean Rodriguez, Ryan Roberts, Jamey Carroll, Jayson Nix, Jeff Keppinger, Aviles (who I guess isn't eligible), Logan Forsythe and Elliott Johnson. And that's excluding a bunch of middle infielders who I think could easily do it, but have been mostly used at one position because that's where they are most valuable. Hell, I think I could name at least three guys if not four five who played for the 2012 Diamondbacks who would be upgrades for the role over Willie: Aaron Hill (plenty of background at SS), Ryan Roberts, Stephen Drew, maybe John McDonald and maybe even Cody Ransom.

I mean that's why Willie's WAR hangs out around 0 so often, because he's just that replaceable.
   34. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: January 17, 2013 at 04:57 PM (#4349346)
They definitely don't have a lot of flamethrowers in that rotation. Also don't see a backup first baseman for when Teixiera comes down with the heartbreak of psorasis, or something.
   35. DA Baracus is a "bloodthirsty fan of Atlanta." Posted: January 17, 2013 at 04:58 PM (#4349350)
Willie fricking bloomquist?


He's got a lot of desire.
   36. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: January 17, 2013 at 05:17 PM (#4349374)
Post 25 says it all. I'm disappointed with the roster. Would have especially loved to see Kershaw out there.
   37. Greg K Posted: January 17, 2013 at 05:21 PM (#4349379)
Tim Collins!

I still haven't actually seen him pitch despite him being a long-time personal favourite. I look forward to seeing him work. Not to mention Dickey and Arencibia (as what I assume is 3rd string catcher).

I'll be actively rooting against this team every game, and this news still excites me! The WBC can't come soon enough!
   38. Gamingboy Posted: January 17, 2013 at 06:00 PM (#4349414)
Arencibia (as what I assume is 3rd string catcher)


Arencibia is the 3rd-string/"If we didn't bring him, the Blue Jays would have found an excuse to block Dickey from partaking" catcher.
   39. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: January 17, 2013 at 07:51 PM (#4349494)
Somehow I thought Kris Medlen was Australian.

Probably confusing him with Peter Moylan.
   40. Walt Davis Posted: January 17, 2013 at 08:14 PM (#4349513)
That leaves Todd Frazier, Matt Downs, Drew Sutton, Jerry Hairston Jr, Mike Aviles, Trevor Plouffe, Ryan Roberts, Sean Rodriguez, and Edgar Gonzalez. Probably a couple better options in there, but I don't see a big difference.

I'm kinda surprised Hairston has never gotten this spot on the WBC team.* He's been at this a long time, always finds work and seems the kind of guy who would be kinda thrilled to do it. He's played at least 5 positions per year every year from 2004 except 2006 when he played only 4. There are only 11 guys with at least 50 games at 2B, SS, 3B, LF, CF and RF** -- he and Bloomquist are two of them. He's better than Bloomquist.

* OK, I pay pretty much no attention to the WBC, for all I know he's been on the team every season before this one

**Not sure how far back the LF/CF/RF breakdown goes for these purposes
   41. Walt Davis Posted: January 17, 2013 at 08:20 PM (#4349515)
Arencibia (as what I assume is 3rd string catcher)

I wouldn't count on that. Are the Twins really going to waste some of Mauer's precious but limited time at C on the WBC? I foresee a lot of Mauer at DH (who else from that roster? Victorino?)

<i>I don’t know much about the defense of Braun, Jones or Stanton<?i>

Braun seems to have become pretty good and is at least average, Stanton rates as one of the best RF in the game and Jones just won a GG. On the other hand, b-r rates Jones as pretty bad. Zobrist is also considered a good defender and Victorino has 3 GG (and still rates as average in CF so better in a corner). OF defense looks pretty good.
   42. BourbonSamurai Is a Lazy Nogoodnik Posted: January 17, 2013 at 08:28 PM (#4349521)
They have wbc jerseys now? That is kindif awesome. There is nobody from my top two teams, but i could do adam jones from my number three team or david wright from my number five
   43. Barnaby Jones Posted: January 18, 2013 at 12:49 AM (#4349635)
Somehow I thought Kris Medlen was Australian.

May have been thinking of his teammate (or the same team at approximately the same time, I dunno) Peter Moylan.


If you don't follow the Braves, they could be very easily confused. A couple years back, they were both long-shot righty relievers, who love tattoos, have surnames that go M--l-n, and are BFFs. However, if you actually see them in person, one is a strange, burly submariner, while the other is a tiny lesbian.
   44. The Ghost fouled out, but stays in the game Posted: January 18, 2013 at 02:19 AM (#4349659)
The Mariners announced they have 9 players from their org in the WBC, none on the US team. Felix (Venezuela), Michael Saunders (Canada), a couple guys you didn't even know were on the MLB roster, and 5 guys from the minors, including 3 guys representing - wait for this one - Brazil.
   45. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: January 18, 2013 at 02:45 AM (#4349662)
Man, I love the WBC. I'm dreaming of a time in the future where every 4 years the All-Star Game is superceded by an extended break so the semis and finals can get played for a real mid-summer classic.
   46. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: January 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM (#4349816)
Somehow I thought Kris Medlen was Australian.

May have been thinking of his teammate (or the same team at approximately the same time, I dunno) Peter Moylan.


I get those guys mixed up all the time, too.

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