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   1. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 17, 2017 at 02:31 PM (#5494742)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS SPEND THEIR OFF-DAY TODAY?!
   2. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 17, 2017 at 02:46 PM (#5494752)
While OMNICHATTER been lollygagging, the Nationals (@ Reds) have been working hard since 12:30 PM, with a 1st inning Bryce Harper 3-run HR getting them off to a quick start that was immediately followed by Ryan Zimmerman's solo shot, making him the all-time franchise leader with 235 Home Runs, passing Vladimir Guerrero. Now 6-1 in 6th.
   3. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: July 17, 2017 at 03:04 PM (#5494762)
Reds have been outscored 35-12 in the first 4 games since the break. And 5 of their runs came in the 9th inning of the second game, when they were down 10-2...
   4. Bote Man Posted: July 17, 2017 at 03:08 PM (#5494766)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS SPEND THEIR OFF-DAY TODAY?!

Preparing for THE INTIMIDATORS to arrive tomorrow to start the Nats series.

But seriously, folks, Stephen Strasburg has struck out 11 Reds hitters today, holding them to 1 run on a Suarez home run. Now Dusty turns the mound over to Joe Blanton so I fully expect this 6-1 game to become a save opportunity fairly quickly.
   5. Bote Man Posted: July 17, 2017 at 03:11 PM (#5494771)
immediately followed by Ryan Zimmerman's solo shot, making him the all-time franchise leader with 235 Home Runs, passing Vladimir Guerrero. Now 6-1 in 6th.

Frank Howard hit 237 home runs for the Washington Senators which is all that matters to D.C. baseball fans. Zim has 2 to go to tie Frank, 3 to break the D.C. baseball record, which is all that matters.
   6. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 17, 2017 at 03:13 PM (#5494775)
The Ray's have designated Jumbo Diaz for assignment. By the pound, he'd still be a bargain.
   7. Bote Man Posted: July 17, 2017 at 03:18 PM (#5494782)
Dan Kolko @masnKolko
Joe Blanton has not been scored upon in his last nine appearances. Coming into form.

SPEECHLESS!!
   8. Bote Man Posted: July 17, 2017 at 03:50 PM (#5494816)
The Nashington Washinals have just completed a 4-game sweep (wrap-around weekend series) of the Reds. That makes it 5 in a row and 9 of their last 11 bringing their record up to 56-36, 10 games in front of the Braves. I can say that now that we're past the All-Star break so we can look at standings now; and we can still wear white until Labor Day, I'm told.
   9. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 17, 2017 at 06:39 PM (#5494923)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS SPEND THEIR OFF-DAY TODAY?!

Preparing for THE INTIMIDATORS to arrive tomorrow to start the Nats series.
Yeah, the only question is whether or not the Nats win two out of three, or get a full sweep.
   10. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 17, 2017 at 06:55 PM (#5494932)
The Nashington Washinals have just completed a 4-game sweep (wrap-around weekend series) of the Reds. That makes it 5 in a row and 9 of their last 11 bringing their record up to 56-36, 10 games in front of the Braves. I can say that now that we're past the All-Star break so we can look at standings now; and we can still wear white until Labor Day, I'm told.


As a Dodger fan, my only response is lol
   11. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 17, 2017 at 07:00 PM (#5494936)
Case closed:
Scott Lauber, ESPN Staff Writer

As expected, MLB has denied Red Sox's protest of Saturday's game. John Farrell says he's not surprised by the decision. But based on conversation with Joe Torre, he's hopeful that future incidents of a runner retreating into a base after being forced out won't occur.
   12. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 17, 2017 at 07:08 PM (#5494940)
Greg Bird update:
Andrew Marchand, ESPN Senior Writer

Yankees first baseman Greg Bird will have surgery on his foot and will likely be done for the rest of the season. Manager Joe Girardi said there is a chance Bird could resume baseball activities in September. Bird missed all of 2016 after shoulder surgery.

Not good news, but hopefully Bird is OK going forward. He had a great spring training, and was batting third when the season started. He, not Judge, was expected to be the Yanks next big thing. Major decision by Cashman on whether to gamble on Bird in 2018, or invest heavily in other 1st base options.
   13. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: July 17, 2017 at 07:21 PM (#5494943)
But based on conversation with Joe Torre, he's hopeful that future incidents of a runner retreating into a base after being forced out won't occur.


I hope so. He clearly interfered, whether intentionally or not.
   14. Bote Man Posted: July 17, 2017 at 07:56 PM (#5494959)
But based on conversation with Joe Torre, he's hopeful that future incidents of a runner retreating into a base after being forced out won't occur.

Jean Segura was unavailable for comment.
   15. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 07:58 PM (#5494960)
If someone spiked McCarvers drink with something that made him mute for the rest of his life, it would be considered a national service.. my god his old fogeyism is just ranting and railing right now.
   16. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 08:17 PM (#5494965)
Magneuris Sierra will probably lose his rookie status this year, and may not even play in the majors next year(except during expanded rosters) , as the team wants him to work on developing a little more power.
   17. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 08:24 PM (#5494968)
I thought there was some type of gentleman's agreement to not make the opposing pitcher look bad at the plate.... Waino just threw a nasty ass curve to Wheeler that nobody could have hit.
   18. Bote Man Posted: July 17, 2017 at 08:27 PM (#5494971)
I thought there was some type of gentleman's agreement to not make the opposing pitcher look bad at the plate

Only when Brian McCann has something to say about it.
   19. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 08:34 PM (#5494977)
I think someone told McCarver to start bringing more than history trivia to the game.... he's been a royal old fart since mid June during his broadcasts.... before he used to keep the old fogeyisms down, but now he's all in, including idiotic campaigning for bad base running, that if the runner would have done and been out, he would have spent 2 innings talking about bad baserunning.
   20. Bote Man Posted: July 17, 2017 at 08:38 PM (#5494978)
It seems like a lifetime ago that Heyward was coming up with the Braves. This is also the first game back for Sean Rodriguez after that automobile wreck in Miami.
   21. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: July 17, 2017 at 08:50 PM (#5494981)
If someone had told me that Cespedes would be fourth on the team in slugging despite slugging around .500 on the season (currently .497), and the Mets would still be unlikely to finish at .500 for the season, I would not have believed you even with the juice ball.

The fact that Duda, Bruce, Conforto, and Granderson all have been reasonably healthy and productive and the Mets still suck is annoying to me.
   22. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 08:52 PM (#5494984)
I always love it when Yadier gets an infield hit.
   23. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 17, 2017 at 08:55 PM (#5494985)
Game of DeJongs-- Winter is coming !
   24. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 08:55 PM (#5494986)
That seems like a small number. Dejong has 9 extra base hits in the month of July, and it's supposedly the most in the majors. I get that four days are missing because of the all star break, but still there is 13 game days...


As I'm typing this, Dejong gets his 10th extra base hit with a two run homerun.
   25. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 17, 2017 at 08:59 PM (#5494988)
We need more Dragonglass, versus the Wainwrights !
   26. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 08:59 PM (#5494989)
The example there of Sierra, is another speedster that doesn't do a good job of bunting.

I'm hoping it was only an aberration.


It looks like he missed third....... hopefully I'm wrong.

edit: With Sierra(second fastest man in baseball probably) on first base, Wainwright hits a gap double....and Sierra scores easily, but I've seen him rounding third now three times, and he doesn't look like he touched third, but it's been from the same angle every time, so maybe another angle does a better job.
   27. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:04 PM (#5494990)
Man, I wish the Mets had like Arietta, Cueto, Wainwright and Gonzalez... this season would be so Cubby !

And Judge in RF !

Ughhhh !
   28. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:07 PM (#5494991)
Wainwright


Wainwright? Are you talking about hitting wise, because I don't think even the Cardinals really want Wainwright the pitcher half the time.
   29. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:08 PM (#5494992)
Wainwright?


I can't feel my arms anymore.

Any Phamacies open still ?
   30. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:10 PM (#5494993)
I feel bad for a guy like Robles who is just on a terrible streak right now...
   31. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:14 PM (#5494994)
You need to stop feeling bad for everyone, and listen to your tape.

-hands tape 23, side dWar to CFB-
   32. Bote Man Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:17 PM (#5494996)
Jon Lester doubled. The End.

#NoDH
   33. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:18 PM (#5494997)
You need to stop feeling bad for everyone, and listen to your tape.

-hands tape 23, side dWar to CFB-


Honestly, I almost never understand what you are posting.
   34. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:19 PM (#5494998)
lol
   35. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:20 PM (#5494999)
That was a clustf--ck.

Sierra knows he's the much better fielder than Fowler though.
   36. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:23 PM (#5495001)
Oh wow...that was poor by Fowler...still thinking about the previous play.


It's bad enough Fowler has lost his leadoff job, but do you sign a free agent outfielder to a big contract and in mid season move him off his position? The Cardinals should, but it's a tough thing to do with a big name player(see McCutchen and the Pirates for how tough it is to do)
   37. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:26 PM (#5495004)
Honestly, I almost never understand what you are posting.

Maybe #29 provides some insight...
   38. Bote Man Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:26 PM (#5495005)
This is the 123rd ballpark in which the Cubs have played a game since 1876. The Braves have played in 10 home parks since 1876, including 6 different parks in Boston, County Stadium in Milwaukee, and 3 in Atlanta.
-- Cubs TV

Wow! The Cubbies sure got around over the years!
   39. Bote Man Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:31 PM (#5495007)
J.Baez just took out an iPad on the shelf in the dugout with a wild throw to 1B. His right foot was on the 2B bag and he did not set himself with a good base from which to throw, allowing Inciarte to advance to second.
   40. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:32 PM (#5495008)
J.Baez just took out an iPad on the shelf in the dugout with a wild throw to 1B.

"It's these iPads! He hates these iPads!"
   41. Bote Man Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:35 PM (#5495009)
I hope Contreras points out how slow Lester is, thus preventing him from throwing out Inciarte.

Also, due to unspecified "technical difficulties" with the replay system (in Atlanta? NYC?) both the Cubbies and the Braves get FREE unlimited crew chief reviews in this game. Expect about a 5 hour marathon before all is said and done.

I bet somebody failed to show up for work at the World Replay Review HQ™ which resulted in said technical difficulties. I'm looking at you, Lassus!!!
   42. K-BAR, J-BAR (trhn) Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:36 PM (#5495011)
Pucker up for Alum weekend, Aug. 4-6.
   43. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:44 PM (#5495013)
Small sample size argument for a couple of players, but do the Cardinals have the best infield in baseball right now? I'm sure there are plenty of arguments of course, but considering that the "weak" link is Yadier, it seems like a pretty good infield right now.

1b Carpenter .243/.378/.450/.828/118 ops+ +4 rField.
2b Wong .300/.389/.438/.827/118 -2 rField
SS DeJong .302/.319/.576/.895/129 0 rField
3b Gyorko .294/.358/.514/.873/126 + 15 rField
C Molina .265/.297/.412/.709/84 +4 rField

Edit:Houston of course has a great infield...and Dodgers also.
   44. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 09:48 PM (#5495014)
McCarver is on a five minute rant about players talking to each other and that they should be executed for talking to the opposition during the game. (exaggeration of course, he just thinks that they should re-enact the fine from the past) And he's still talking about it.... And it's at least the third time this season he's gone on this particular rant.
   45. Bote Man Posted: July 17, 2017 at 10:02 PM (#5495019)
To be fair to McCarver, he had to catch Bob Gibson who wouldn't even talk to his own teammates!!
   46. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 10:20 PM (#5495023)
To be fair to McCarver, he had to catch Bob Gibson who wouldn't even talk to his own teammates!!


Also a teammate with Carlton, who when McCarver became a tv announcer, refused to do interviews with McCarver.
   47. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 10:30 PM (#5495026)
Cardinals are deathly afraid of Cespedes.
   48. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 17, 2017 at 10:30 PM (#5495027)
Edit:Houston of course has a great infield...and Dodgers also.
Washington, even without Turner. Arizona, even with Mathis dragging them down.
   49. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2017 at 10:41 PM (#5495029)
I thought about Washington, but I did mention 'current' and without Turner, they have great value, but in some respects I'm thinking about weakest link type of arguments. I'm not really seeing Arizona though, good, but not really what I'm talking about I guess... and of course the Cardinals infield numbers are an illusion right now, Dejong isn't going to keep it up, and Wong is the poster child for inconsistent player and I'm looking at him near the top of his hot streak, and he's just as likely to finish the month below 100 ops+ as above it.

Of course the Cardinals weak link is a guy who is more valuable than the numbers probably indicate(yes I'm talking Yadier Molina) Next weak link is Carpenter a 118 ops+ from a slightly above average defensive first baseman is not really impressive.
   50. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 17, 2017 at 10:42 PM (#5495030)
Quiet as it's kept, both Frazier and Cooper have really been stinging the ball lately, and they're both now hitting .308 with multiple extra base hits.
   51. Random Transaction Generator Posted: July 17, 2017 at 10:51 PM (#5495033)
Kind of a rare event in the Jays/BoSox game.

The "win" wasn't given to the pitcher of record.

The Jays led 3-0 going into the bottom of the 7th inning in Boston.
Then, the Red Sox scored two runs and had two men on with two out.
The Jays brought in the relief pitcher (Leone).
He threw one pitch, which was hit for a double (tying the game) and also got the 3rd out (runner gunned down at home plate).

The top of the 8th saw the Jays score a run to take the lead back.

The bottom of the 8th saw a different pitcher (Tepera) throw a clean 1-2-3 inning.

Then Osuna gunned the Red Sox down 1-2-3 in the 9th.

Normally, Leone would get the win by being the pitcher of record.
However, the scorer (correctly) determined he was not "effective", and gave the "win" to Tepera.

I can't think of the last time that's happened, but I rarely notice it in box scores when I glance at them.
   52. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:04 PM (#5495037)
Girardi rolled the dice on Smith once too often. He went from the penthouse to the outhouse in five quick batters.
   53. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:07 PM (#5495039)
So Jon Lester has a double, a walk and a stolen base in this game. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm pretty sure he's never done any of those things before this.

Actually, I take it back...I seem to remember seeing him double against the Rox a couple years ago. Still.
   54. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:10 PM (#5495041)
I'm biased and all, but Happ sure looked safe to me.
   55. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:11 PM (#5495042)
Relatedly, "very close" /= "inconclusive."
   56. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:12 PM (#5495043)
There was a game earlier this year where Lester had a base hit and a successful pickoff throw. He's definitely breaking some new ground this year, although some of it has also been of the "10 runs in the first inning" variety.
   57. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:13 PM (#5495045)
He's expanded his repertoire, in all directions.
   58. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:15 PM (#5495046)
How appropriate that the Yanks ended their game in a rainstorm. It looked so promising just an inning ago.
   59. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:17 PM (#5495047)
He's expanded his repertoire, in all directions.

Next up: try Indian food.
   60. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:18 PM (#5495048)
Ok, I laughed.
   61. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:20 PM (#5495049)
I can't think of the last time that's happened, but I rarely notice it in box scores when I glance at them.


Only other time I know of was when Mariano Rivera was awarded a win in such a situation and people were upset that he didn't get a save.
   62. Brian C Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:34 PM (#5495051)
Eh, that's not even Lester's first double this year and it's his fifth already with the Cubs. And his twelfth walk (third this year).

The stolen base is a new trick though.
   63. Brian C Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:36 PM (#5495052)
It's the first SB by a Cubs pitcher since Travis Wood had one in 2013, which is nice because that's exactly who I and probably everyone else would have guessed was the last one to do it.
   64. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:41 PM (#5495054)
OK, Wade, let's not get cute with this. Jesus.
   65. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:43 PM (#5495055)
,,,and it's officially cute.
   66. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:50 PM (#5495056)
FFS, do they have to do that stupid chant after every pitch?

EDIT: Apparently they do. After literally every pitch. It's incredibly obnoxious.
   67. Brian C Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:53 PM (#5495057)
Please don't throw another pitch in the dirt, Wade. Really pushing his luck.
   68. Brian C Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:55 PM (#5495058)
Never a doubt
   69. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 17, 2017 at 11:56 PM (#5495059)
Well, that was Exhibit A for Why Saves Are a Dumb Stat. Whew.
   70. Rally Posted: July 18, 2017 at 10:22 AM (#5495166)
Normally, Leone would get the win by being the pitcher of record.
However, the scorer (correctly) determined he was not "effective", and gave the "win" to Tepera.


That's pretty cool. Anybody know if the code behind Out of the Park would do such a thing?

I would have liked to give Osuna the save, Tepera the hold, and the win to Kevin Pillar. After all, it was his arm that prevented the Red Sox from taking the lead. And a pretty fast runner going with 2 outs in Mookie Betts.
   71. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 18, 2017 at 11:15 AM (#5495218)
So last night Wade Davis came in for the bottom of the 9th with a 4-1 lead. He promptly gave up two runs on hits and wild pitches, then loaded the bases with 2 outs before retiring the last batter on a weak fly ball. It's absurd that such an outing would have ever qualified for a stat called a "save." He didn't "save" anything - he took what was an almost certain victory and brought it to the very edge of defeat. The only thing he "saved" that game from was himself. I wonder if Jerome Holtzman ever had any regrets.

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