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Monday, July 23, 2012

Morosi: Tigers acquire Anibal Sanchez and Omar Infante from Marlins

Tigers giving up Jacob Turner plus in deal for A Sanchez and Infante.

Surprised it took Turner to land two pretty average players.

Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 23, 2012 at 05:44 PM | 46 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Tripon Posted: July 23, 2012 at 05:52 PM (#4190079)
Turner's pretty average himself now.
   2. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 23, 2012 at 05:52 PM (#4190080)
Geez, they're leaving treadmarks getting away from Turner all of a sudden, aren't they?
   3. Bourbon Samurai in Asia Posted: July 23, 2012 at 05:55 PM (#4190085)
Baseball Mogul tells me Jacob Turner is going to be one of the best pitchers of all time, so I like this deal for the Marlins.
   4. Baseball Mogul 2003 Posted: July 23, 2012 at 05:56 PM (#4190086)
Baseball needs more pitchers like Jacob Turner.
   5. Dan Posted: July 23, 2012 at 05:56 PM (#4190087)
Geez, they're leaving treadmarks getting away from Turner all of a sudden, aren't they?


Hopefully it works out better for the Marlins than the last Tigers pitching prospect they traded for.
   6. Spahn Insane Posted: July 23, 2012 at 05:58 PM (#4190090)
Yeah, I'm looking at Turner's minor league stats, and they strike me as good but not overwhelming. Seems to me the Fish should feel pretty good if he turns into Anibal Sanchez.
   7. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:03 PM (#4190096)
Yeah, I'm looking at Turner's minor league stats, and they strike me as good but not overwhelming.
Turner has been a huge prospect since before he had a professional career. He hasn't overwhelmed in the minors, but his combination of stuff, projectability, and youth has kept him in BA's top 25 for three years running. It's possible that he wasn't ever as good as people thought. Or maybe he's hurt. As fans, though, we really don't have good evidence to reject the null hypothesis that the guy scouts think is a hell of a prospect is indeed a hell of a prospect.

(I guess the fact that he got traded for a 95 OPS+ infielder and a 105 OPS+ starter, neither under team control for 2013, is itself our best evidence that Turner isn't as good as was previously thought.)

EDIT: oops, Infante is under contract for 2013 at $4M. That's a pretty good deal for an averageish player, so there's a bit of value I'd missed.
   8. this space for rent Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:09 PM (#4190099)
<sarcasm>
Rushing Rick Porcello paid off so well, it's not surprising that the Tigers decided to do the same with Turner.
</sarcasm>

Turner should be stuck in AA for the rest of the year and told to work on his secondary offerings. That was never going to happen in Detroit, where the philosophy seems to be "rush young pitchers up to the highest level they can barely survive with their best pitches and then watch them stagnate since they have no opportunity to improve their arsenal," so this might be the best thing for him.

Still hard to see him go since he still has a lot of upside (hopefully nightmares of John Smoltz redux won't come to pass), but Infante and Sanchez are significant upgrades for this year, especially given the vortex of suck that has occupied 2B in Detroit this year.
   9. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:11 PM (#4190101)
Tigers had to throw in Rob Brantly, too. His AAA numbers are rough so far but definitely young enough at that level that he's a prospect.
   10. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:12 PM (#4190102)
The first 15 picks of the 2009 draft:

1. Stephen Strasburg
2. Dustin Ackley
3. Donovan Tate
4. Tony Sanchez
5. Matt Hobgood
6. Zack Wheeler
7. Mike Minor
8. Mike Leake
9. Jacob Turner
10. Drew Storen
11. Tyler Matzek
12. Aaron Crow
13. Grant Green
14. Matt Purke
15. Alex White

The nationals sure got lucky. Wheeler looks good, and there are a couple of good relievers, but otherwise...

   11. fra paolo Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:12 PM (#4190103)
That was never going to happen in Detroit, where the philosophy seems to be "rush young pitchers up to the highest level they can barely survive with their best pitches and then watch them stagnate since they have no opportunity to improve their arsenal,"

The Marlins strike me as a club that operates identically. They don't hang about in Florida's front office either.

I'm hoping the supposed gap between the two leagues won't catch up with Infante and Sanchez.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:14 PM (#4190104)
Also ... the Tigers 2B are hitting 201/286/276. Infante is a huge upgrade. Even just 10 weeks of average performance would be 1 to 1.5 wins over what they've been getting. Sanchez is probably their #3 starter right now so has potential playoff impact. Filling a huge hole and upgrading in the rotation is a pretty nice get for a deadline deal. This looks better than the proposed Dempster for Delgado deal.
   13. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:17 PM (#4190109)
The nationals sure got lucky. Wheeler looks good, and there are a couple of good relievers, but otherwise...
It's terribly premature to give up on Dustin Ackley, isn't it? He put up a 120 OPS+ and 3.4 WAR in 90 games as a 23-year-old rookie. Seattle is where offense goes to die, but I'd still rather bet on Ackley than against him.
   14. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:18 PM (#4190115)
Tigers rush other dudes too - I think that may have contributed to Fields' problems...
   15. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:27 PM (#4190132)
I didn't mean to suggest that Ackley won't be a good player. I'm just saying that that first round looks really, really weak so far. (OTOH, Strasburg and Trout by themselves might better than some first rounds).
   16. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:29 PM (#4190140)
Does Smyly lose his rotation spot when he gets back? 4.42 ERA/3.85 FIP. 75/21 k/bb in 79 innings.
   17. JJ1986 Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:29 PM (#4190143)
Leake and Minor seem like good returns, Storen and Crow have been good and Wheeler is still a top prospect. Sanchez and Hobgood were bad overdrafts when taken. Only Tate and Matzek have really bombed.
   18. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:44 PM (#4190172)
So the Marlins have given up the ghost. I think it's safe to say they're the biggest disappointment in baseball this season.
   19. Every Inge Counts Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:45 PM (#4190175)
Welcome back Infante.

We actually have someone to play second base...

Turner hasn't done much whenever he has been called up
   20. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:46 PM (#4190176)
Leake and Minor seem like good returns, Storen and Crow have been good and Wheeler is still a top prospect. Sanchez and Hobgood were bad overdrafts when taken. Only Tate and Matzek have really bombed.


Yeah. I think you are seriously underestimating how often top 15 picks are total busts in general. I look at the list in 10 and even without Strasburg, given that we are only 3 years down the road it looks like an above-average picks 2-15 to me.
   21. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 23, 2012 at 06:56 PM (#4190195)
Also ... the Tigers 2B are hitting 201/286/276. Infante is a huge upgrade. Even just 10 weeks of average performance would be 1 to 1.5 wins over what they've been getting. Sanchez is probably their #3 starter right now so has potential playoff impact. Filling a huge hole and upgrading in the rotation is a pretty nice get for a deadline deal. This looks better than the proposed Dempster for Delgado deal.
This is a good point. The Tigers have true, not-even-a-replacement-level-player holes at 2B and the back of the rotation, and so getting average MLB players will make them a lot better.

It's an issue that gets to questions of how we should model the midseason trade market. Should the Tigers pay a higher price for averagish players because they need them more? It's not like the Marlins were fielding tons of great offers for Anibal Sanchez and Omar Infante. But the Tigers lose runs every day they don't have those guys on the roster. I tend toward a simple econ-101 model where the lack of other teams demand for Sanchez and Infante should determine their (lower) trade value, but there are lots of ways in which MLB doesn't resemble an imagined efficient market, so maybe that's not the best way to see things.
   22. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 23, 2012 at 07:00 PM (#4190200)
TWIST!

Along with prospects Rob Brantly (C/DH) and Brian Flynn (LHP/cop from Southie), the Tigers also traded their competitive balance draft pick to the Marlins.

I believe that makes this the first baseball trade ever to include a draft pick.
   23. Every Inge Counts Posted: July 23, 2012 at 07:02 PM (#4190201)
Does Smyly lose his rotation spot when he gets back? 4.42 ERA/3.85 FIP. 75/21 k/bb in 79 innings.


I guess so, assuming going forward it would be Verlander-Fister-Scherzer-Porcello-Sanchez. Not too bad, Fister has pitched a lot better. Porcello and Scherzer are hot and cold...so who knows, they have been pitching better lately though.
   24. PreservedFish Posted: July 23, 2012 at 07:03 PM (#4190203)
the Tigers also traded their competitive balance draft pick to the Marlins.

I wonder if they discussed that one just for fun.
   25. Every Inge Counts Posted: July 23, 2012 at 07:07 PM (#4190209)
Reading on rotoworld it said that the Marlins and Tigers both traded draft picks..

The Tigers have agreed to trade right-handed pitching prospect Jacob Turner, minor-league catcher Rob Brantly, minor-league pitcher Brian Flynn and a compensatory pick to the Marlins for right-hander Anibal Sanchez, second baseman Omar Infante and a compensatory balance pick (sandwich pick between first and second rounds).

http://www.freep.com/article/20120723/SPORTS02/120723059/detroit-tigers-anibal-sanchez-omar-infante-jacob-turner?odyssey=nav|head
   26. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: July 23, 2012 at 07:09 PM (#4190215)
Leake and Minor seem like good returns, Storen and Crow have been good and Wheeler is still a top prospect. Sanchez and Hobgood were bad overdrafts when taken. Only Tate and Matzek have really bombed.

Yeah. I think you are seriously underestimating how often top 15 picks are total busts in general.


2005:
1 Diamondbacks Justin Upton (minors)
2 Royals Alex Gordon (minors)
3 Mariners Jeff Clement (minors)
4 Nationals Ryan Zimmerman (minors)
5 Brewers Ryan Braun (minors)
6 Blue Jays Ricky Romero (minors)
7 Rockies Troy Tulowitzki (minors)
8 Devil Rays Wade Townsend (minors)
9 Mets Mike Pelfrey (minors)
10 Tigers Cameron Maybin (minors)
11 Pirates Andrew McCutchen (minors)
12 Reds Jay Bruce (minors)
13 Orioles Brandon Snyder (minors)
14 Indians Trevor Crowe (minors)
15 White Sox Lance Broadway (minors)

I count 5 "total busts", and several stars

2006:
1 Royals Luke Hochevar (minors)
2 Rockies Greg Reynolds (minors)
3 Devil Rays Evan Longoria (minors)
4 Pirates Brad Lincoln (minors)
5 Mariners Brandon Morrow (minors)
6 Tigers Andrew Miller (minors)
7 Dodgers Clayton Kershaw (minors)
8 Reds Drew Stubbs (minors)
9 Orioles Billy Rowell (minors)
10 Giants Tim Lincecum (minors)
11 Diamondbacks Max Scherzer (minors)
12 Rangers Kasey Kiker (minors)
13 Cubs Tyler Colvin (minors)
14 Blue Jays Travis Snider (minors)
15 Nationals Chris Marrero (minors)
6-7 "total" busts

It's early, but 2009 to me looks like a worse year than usual
   27. JJ1986 Posted: July 23, 2012 at 07:14 PM (#4190222)
I count 5 "total busts", and several stars


I don't think Snyder is a total bust yet. Unless Pelfrey is the 5th.
   28. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: July 23, 2012 at 07:46 PM (#4190266)
I'm quite curious to see what those picks will fetch in straight up deals...
   29. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: July 23, 2012 at 07:50 PM (#4190272)
The Marlins couldn't even wait until after the season to put the lie to their farcical stadium bleatings.
   30. JJ1986 Posted: July 23, 2012 at 07:54 PM (#4190276)
To this point, the Marlins have only used 5 starters, each making 19 starts.
   31. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: July 23, 2012 at 08:07 PM (#4190285)
Wow, it looks like even Josh Johnson might be available now, and he's not a free agent until after next season.
   32. Walt Davis Posted: July 23, 2012 at 08:12 PM (#4190289)
2005:
1 Diamondbacks Justin Upton (minors) -- good to God
2 Royals Alex Gordon (minors) -- solid
3 Mariners Jeff Clement (minors) -- bust
4 Nationals Ryan Zimmerman (minors) -- God
5 Brewers Ryan Braun (minors) -- God
6 Blue Jays Ricky Romero (minors) -- good
7 Rockies Troy Tulowitzki (minors) -- God
8 Devil Rays Wade Townsend (minors) -- bust
9 Mets Mike Pelfrey (minors) -- bustish
10 Tigers Cameron Maybin (minors) -- OK
11 Pirates Andrew McCutchen (minors) -- God (for now at least)
12 Reds Jay Bruce (minors) -- solid
13 Orioles Brandon Snyder (minors) -- bust
14 Indians Trevor Crowe (minors) -- bust
15 White Sox Lance Broadway (minors) -- bust

1 Royals Luke Hochevar (minors) -- bust given #1
2 Rockies Greg Reynolds (minors) -- bust
3 Devil Rays Evan Longoria (minors) -- God
4 Pirates Brad Lincoln (minors) -- bust
5 Mariners Brandon Morrow (minors) -- solid
6 Tigers Andrew Miller (minors) -- bustish
7 Dodgers Clayton Kershaw (minors) -- God
8 Reds Drew Stubbs (minors) -- OK
9 Orioles Billy Rowell (minors) -- bust
10 Giants Tim Lincecum (minors) -- Icarus
11 Diamondbacks Max Scherzer (minors) -- solid
12 Rangers Kasey Kiker (minors) -- bust
13 Cubs Tyler Colvin (minors) -- not really a bust I guess
14 Blue Jays Travis Snider (minors) -- bustish
15 Nationals Chris Marrero (minors) -- bust


That was a long way to go ...

   33. Depressoteric Posted: July 23, 2012 at 08:23 PM (#4190302)
I think the real story is what an incredibly good draft year 2005 was. Ryan Zimmerman, Ryan Braun, Troy Tulowitzki, Justin Upton, Andrew McCutchen, Alex Gordon, Jay Bruce, and Ricky Romero all in the top 15? That's got to a disproportionately successful draft class.

Figures that one of the few busts would've been the Mariners' pick.
   34. Cooper Nielson Posted: July 23, 2012 at 09:35 PM (#4190386)
As a Tiger fan, I'm thrilled about this deal. I've been praying for them to trade Jacob Turner before his prospect sheen wears off, and to get back a MLB-average 2B and a pretty decent starting pitcher seems like a coup.

I'm not a scout and don't pretend to have scouting ability, but I have seen Turner pitch in person two times (his minor league debut, and Sunday's win against the White Sox) and was thoroughly unimpressed. He maxes out at about 92 mph, doesn't really strike out a lot of batters, and just seemed really underwhelming for a supposedly "elite" prospect. His minor league stats seem to support this — he's been pretty good, but not even close to dominant, and it seems to me that most #1-2 starters in the majors are dominant in the minors.

I also think that the Dombrowsi-era Tigers have had a pretty good track record in trades. When they trade prospects, they usually perform below expectations — Cameron Maybin and Andrew Miller are the two obvious examples. If they're ready to trade Jacob Turner, I think they probably have a good reason.
   35. Walt Davis Posted: July 23, 2012 at 09:43 PM (#4190396)
Back to "bust" -- I was kinda funning there and some of the "busts" are maybe doing just fine in the minors and I wouldn't know.

But take Tyler Colvin. He has .9 career WAR. That makes him #16 all-time in WAR for a #13 pick and he's just getting started. He moves up 3 spots if he can catch Rick Leach at 2.5 career WAR. He's got to get all the way to 7.5 WAR to pass Kahlil Greene into the top 10 which is not likely.

There are two studs at #13 (Manny, Tanana ... so that's what it has to do with him), some very solid players (Konerko, Templeton, Gary Nolan, Aaron Hill). That's somewhat luck but while #12 and #14 are deeper, they're missing the two studs. Mainly you're darn happy if you can get 3-4 average seasons out of a mid-round draft pick. Only about 25-30% of #12-14 picks have reached 6 WAR. The 2006 draft probably won't supply even one such player (in those slots) but Bruce already has 9 WAR and should pass Oddibe and Glanville by the end of the year to be top 10.

So a true bust at 12-14 is a guy who doesn't make the majors. Even Colvin, who might give you .5 WAR as 4th OF for a few years isn't really a bust. Even if his career ended right now, Travis Snider's 1.5 WAR isn't a bust.
   36. Mike Emeigh Posted: July 23, 2012 at 09:44 PM (#4190397)
I agree with Cooper. Turner, like Porcello, is a guy whose reputation has exceeded his results throughout his career - there is little in his resume that suggests there's a staff ace in the making. Getting Sanchez, who has pitched like a front-end starter on occasion in the majors, plus Infante, who is a significant upgrade over the dreck that Detroit has been playing at 2B, strikes me as more then enough return.

-- MWE
   37. this space for rent Posted: July 23, 2012 at 09:48 PM (#4190409)

That was never going to happen in Detroit, where the philosophy seems to be "rush young pitchers up to the highest level they can barely survive with their best pitches and then watch them stagnate since they have no opportunity to improve their arsenal,

The Marlins strike me as a club that operates identically. They don't hang about in Florida's front office either.


Yeah, you're right in a practical sense, though for the Marlins it's less a player development philosophy than a cost-cutting measure, as they need to promote talent quickly to replace anyone who is jettisoned for daring to make more than a couple million.

That said, even they haven't been as extreme with that as the Tigers have been -- Turner, Porcello, and Bonderman all hit the majors before they could legally drink, Turner and Porcello after short and non-exceptional stints in the high minors and Bonderman without a single inning above high-A. In comparison, Sanchez for example was 22.5 and had 26 excellent AA starts under his belt (15 in the Marlins' organization) before he was promoted.
   38. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 23, 2012 at 09:49 PM (#4190410)
I also think that the Dombrowsi-era Tigers have had a pretty good track record in trades. When they trade prospects, they usually perform below expectations — Cameron Maybin and Andrew Miller are the two obvious examples. If they're ready to trade Jacob Turner, I think they probably have a good reason.

Let's see ...

Juan Gonzalez (not that one) and Ramon Santiago for Carlos Guillen - good
Bo Flowers, Scott Moore and Roberto Novoa for Kyle Farnsworth - good
Chris Robinson for Neifi Perez - good in that the prospect has not done anything good
Anthony Claggett, Humberto Sanchez and Kevin Whelan for Gary Sheffield - good
Jair Jurrjens and Gorkys Hernandez for Edgar Renteria - bad. Looked REALLY bad until Jar Jur's performance this year.
Carlos Melo and Guillermo Moscoso for Gerald Laird - good
Mauricio Robles and Luke French for Jarrod Washburn - bad
Brett Jacobson for Aubrey Huff - good in that the prospect has not done anything good
Giovanni "Geovany" Soto for Jhonny Peralta - probably good
Charlie Furbush, Casper Wells and Francisco Martinez for Doug Fister - I don't know, the Bush and the Ghost both look like pretty good players.
Cole Nelson and Lester Ontiveros for Delmon Young - I think the only proper assessment of this is "Bad trade! Who'd we lose?"
   39. Walt Davis Posted: July 23, 2012 at 09:56 PM (#4190425)
It's an issue that gets to questions of how we should model the midseason trade market. Should the Tigers pay a higher price for averagish players because they need them more? It's not like the Marlins were fielding tons of great offers for Anibal Sanchez and Omar Infante. But the Tigers lose runs every day they don't have those guys on the roster. I tend toward a simple econ-101 model where the lack of other teams demand for Sanchez and Infante should determine their (lower) trade value, but there are lots of ways in which MLB doesn't resemble an imagined efficient market, so maybe that's not the best way to see things.

There are opprotunity costs too. Agreed, the Tigers shoudn't have to pay more than just over the next highest bid. But that auction takes time. If they barely outbid another team, the Marlins are going to shop around more to see if they can find a better offer than the Tigers. If the Tigers' offer is well ahead, the trade happens now.

For example, I just moved to Australia. I was having a hard time finding a place to rent that I like but it was costing me $120 or more a night to stay in a hotel. I could have held out for a nice flat but the nice flats weren't going to be available for another 2-4 weeks anyway. So I finally just took a place because it was already empty -- the rent is OK but I had to settle on quality.

And of course the Marlins know all this. The "value" in baseball trades is not as clear as in a money transaction. $1.50 is clearly more than $1.25 so it would be hard for the Marlins to argue "tough, we're gonna sell to the A's for $1.25 anyway if you don't up your offer to $1.75." But it's a lot easier to pull off "sorry, we like the set of uninspiring prospects the A's are offering more than the ones you're offering, you need to offer Turner" even if that's not quite true.

Still, for Turner, they might have been able to get future HoFer Darwin Barney so you've got to wonder what Detroit is thinking. :-)
   40. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: July 23, 2012 at 10:22 PM (#4190472)
Even Colvin, who might give you .5 WAR as 4th OF for a few years isn't really a bust. Even if his career ended right now, Travis Snider's 1.5 WAR isn't a bust.

Maybe not literally, but 1.5 career WAR is very close to zero. I wouldn't be all that proud of it as a GM, or all that happy with it as a fan. I'm not about to give any high gives that the A's got Landon Powell in this area for example. It would be different if they had traded him for a real major leaguer though.
   41. Nats-Homer-in-DC Posted: July 24, 2012 at 02:14 AM (#4190569)
The first 15 picks of the 2009 draft:
...
but otherwise...


That was the story they were telling us on draft day 2009. It was known to be a weak draft.
   42. Walt Davis Posted: July 24, 2012 at 02:59 AM (#4190583)
Maybe not literally, but 1.5 career WAR is very close to zero. I wouldn't be all that proud of it as a GM, or all that happy with it as a fan.

That's fine but if you're _expecting_ more than that then it's your expectations that are out of whack. If you're _hoping_ for more than that, well, yeah who isn't? If you're blaming either the GM or the player for not substantially out-performing that draft slot, well, then again I'd say you're out of whack. And "bust" implies this was a major mistake as opposed to the expected outcome.

I suppose you could define your expectation around the mean rather than the median and let the studs greatly influence it -- the mean for slots 12-14 is about 5.5 WAR. Or take Manny and Tanana out and the average is 4.5. So you're talking Donovan Osborne to Todd Ritchie which doesn't get the blood riled much more than Ty Colvin.
   43. fra paolo Posted: July 30, 2012 at 10:29 PM (#4196578)
INFANTE WATCH:

After one week, he is 4 for 24 with one walk, one SH and one XBH, a triple. That's .167/.192/.250

Is it the AL superiority? Or is he just adjusting to new pitchers? Stay tuned.
   44. fra paolo Posted: August 07, 2012 at 03:27 PM (#4202492)
INFANTE WATCH:

He's gone on an 8 for 17 tear since last week, taking his slash line to .293/.295/.488

He hasn't walked even once during the past week, but going 8 for 17 removes any concerns about that.

Leyland has given him one start at 3b. By RZR, Infante is the best Tigers' 2b of the season, but UZR/150 thinks it's Santiago, and that Infante is better than Worth or Raburn with the glove.
   45. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 07, 2012 at 03:45 PM (#4202533)
Is there any way I can subscribe Omar Infante updates on my smartphone and/or blackberry device?
   46. fra paolo Posted: August 17, 2012 at 04:21 PM (#4210838)
Sorry, I'm late with my update this week.

INFANTE WATCH:

He's continued to perform much better than his predecessors for the 2012 Tigers at the keystone. He is now batting 308/317/487. He's also got a 17.5 UZR/150, to lead the Tigers' 2B there, too. So Walt Davis in post 12 is right about this being a huge upgrade.

However...

SANCHEZ WATCH:

Anibal Sanchez has been hardly any better than the alternatives to Drew Smyly. In four starts he has pitched 20.1 innings at a 7.97 ERA. Turner had two starts in July in which he pitched 7.1 innings for a 12.27 ERA. Smyly, who came off the DL on 29 July and is now pitching in AAA for Toledo, in 15 starts for the big-league club pitched 79.1 innnings for a 4.42 ERA.

Sanchez is in no way an upgrade over Smyly, as things stand. He is an improvement over Turner, but not by much.

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