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Friday, July 03, 2009

Morris: Kevin Millwood, Rob Neyer, Evan Grant, luck, pitching, and defense

This is a blog post about a post by Evan Grant responding to a blog post by Rob Neyer commenting on a blog post by R.J. Anderson.

That I came across on Facebook…whew!

  So this may be a bit meta.

In a nutshell, Grant takes issue with Neyer’s endorsement of Anderson’s point, which is that Kevin Millwood hasn’t really been any better this year than in the past few years.

Evan makes clear his thoughts on Millwood right off the bat:

  By almost any evaluation, Millwood has been one of the top five or six pitchers in the AL this season.

I guess the problem is how one defines “top pitcher.”  In terms of runs allowed or ERA, absolutely, he’s been one of the top pitchers in the league.

But when we talk about runs allowed or ERA, we mustn’t forget the Tenth Noble Truth of Bill James:

  10. A great deal of what is perceived as being pitching is in fact defense.

Repoz Posted: July 03, 2009 at 08:14 PM | 3 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: baseball geeks, rangers, sabermetrics, special topics

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   1. Petuniaviles Posted: July 03, 2009 at 09:54 PM (#3241609)
So Elvis Andrus is one of the top pitchers in the AL this season?
   2. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: July 03, 2009 at 10:30 PM (#3241630)
At this point there are enough luck metrics out there that you can pretty much explain away anything with luck if you are so inclined.
   3. fra paolo Posted: July 04, 2009 at 02:02 PM (#3242026)
Well, I guess it could be luck, too, but just eyeballing the =2008&league;_filter[]=1&team;_filter[]=TEX&Submit=Submit"]THT LOB% for all of the Rangers' pitchers seems to suggest it might be up across the board.

I might look into this in a bit more detail and report back.

PS - Does anyone know whether Fangraphs uses STATS UZR or BIS UZR? Or does anyone still use STATS? THT uses BIS.

EDIT - Don't know what's up with the link.

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