Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Sunday, November 13, 2011


Selig gets and takes credit for the [minority interviewing and hiring] program, and I suppose he deserves it because he was the commissioner who implemented it, and he did it before the National Football League instituted a similar program, the Rooney Rule. ...

This off-season clubs created openings for six general managers and five managers. A total of seven members of minorities were interviewed. White male interviewees numbered at least three times that number.

Clubs don’t always include minorities in their interviews, and the commissioner often shrugs it off, offering some lame excuse for the team. ...

But when Selig exempts teams, he misses the point of his own policy. The idea is to allow minorities to be exposed to the interviewing process and to enable themselves to be exposed to other teams for possible future consideration. No interview, no exposure. ...

Since the end of the 2009 season baseball has had nine subtractions and only three additions among minority general managers and managers. But two of the additions, Guillen and Fredi Gonzalez, also count among the subtractions, and the third addition, Edwin Rodriguez, became a subtraction when he resigned last season from his managing job with the Marlins.

In other words, no new minority appears on baseball’s landscape. ...

From what I have been able to piece together – Major League Baseball will not disclose lists of candidates for each team – three members of minorities (one each Hispanic, black and female) were interviewed for six general manager openings, two for the same opening, and four (three Hispanic, one black) were interviewed for five managerial vacancies, one candidate by two teams.

That’s not exactly a torrent of candidates. If Selig is “quite satisfied that all the clubs have done what they’re supposed to do,” he needs to set a higher standard. How can Selig be satisfied that Major League Baseball has only seven people who are considered worthy of being interviewed for top jobs? He shouldn’t be satisfied; he should be embarrassed.

bobm Posted: November 13, 2011 at 03:34 PM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: angels, arizona, business, cardinals, cubs, dodgers, indians, mets, miami, nationals, orioles, padres, rays, red sox, tigers, twins, white sox

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. villageidiom Posted: November 13, 2011 at 05:04 PM (#3992521)
Quoted without comment:
This off-season Selig reacted angrily when I asked about what I had been told was the absence of minority interviews by the Chicago White Sox in their search for a manager to replace Ozzie Guillen.

”What,” Selig exclaimed, “you think Kenny Williams suddenly became a racist?”
   2. The District Attorney Posted: November 13, 2011 at 05:08 PM (#3992524)
Chass is right that this is a good policy in the abstract, and that it is useless if you don't enforce it.

”What,” Selig exclaimed, “you think Kenny Williams suddenly became a racist?”
This, on the other hand, does not show a nuanced philosophical command of the relevant issues on the part of M. Selig.
   3. McCoy Posted: November 13, 2011 at 05:30 PM (#3992532)
Isn't that what the "general" tag is for?
   4. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Anskeey" Posted: November 13, 2011 at 05:47 PM (#3992541)
The policy, as I understand it, was to get actual minorities actually hired in larger numbers than they were before the policy. To take a less-nefarious look at the root causes, I think it's safe to say that old white guys are more comfortable with other old white guys, many of whom they've known for years and years, when it comes to hiring a new employee. And that has largely worked.

It is NOT to increase token interviews. Which, if you revise the policy towards no exemptions, you will only increase.

The biggest measure of a successful policy in the end, in my opinion, is the recycling of the "retread" candidates. There will always be a market for a big-name high-performing underemployed coach, race aside. But Guillen and Gonzalez and their recent movement point to a successful policy, not an unsuccessful one.
   5. Walt Davis Posted: November 13, 2011 at 07:12 PM (#3992583)
   6. Bob Evans Posted: November 14, 2011 at 01:00 AM (#3992740)
Oh, Walt, oh, are too much.
   7. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: November 14, 2011 at 01:35 AM (#3992763)
Chass is right that this is a good policy in the abstract, and that it is useless if you don't enforce it.

Used car salesmen just may not have the necessities to be, let's say, commissioner of a major sports league.
   8. Bob Evans Posted: November 14, 2011 at 02:03 AM (#3992779)
This, on the other hand, does not show a nuanced philosophical command of the relevant issues on the part of M. Selig.

It's a pretty good answer to a direct question about the White Sox. If anything, it shows Chass isn't zeroing in on the relevant issues.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.



<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF


Thanks to
for his generous support.


You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

Hall of MeritMost Meritorious Player: 2016 Discussion
(8 - 12:38am, Oct 28)
Last: bjhanke

NewsblogOTP 2016 October 24: Breitbart Radio Exclusive: Curt Schilling Joins Breitbart News Rotation Weekdays 9AM to 11AM ET
(840 - 12:35am, Oct 28)
Last: Joyful Calculus Instructor

NewsblogGold Glove Award finalists |
(13 - 11:57pm, Oct 27)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogJose Altuve voted Sporting News MLB Player of the Year for 2016
(10 - 11:49pm, Oct 27)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogRob Manfred Hints At Meeting With Indians Ownership To Discuss Racist Logo
(57 - 11:48pm, Oct 27)
Last: JohnQ

NewsblogOT - October 2016 College Football thread
(154 - 11:44pm, Oct 27)
Last: Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) This is why baseball is so white
(29 - 11:41pm, Oct 27)
Last: ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

NewsblogCutting class for the World Series is a valid excuse in Ohio
(22 - 11:35pm, Oct 27)
Last: Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams)

NewsblogKyle Schwarber not medically cleared to play field as World Series moves to Wrigley
(6 - 11:32pm, Oct 27)
Last: jobu

NewsblogCubs top Indians to even World Series |
(25 - 11:26pm, Oct 27)
Last: Bote Man

Gonfalon CubsGame 2 Feelings
(95 - 10:52pm, Oct 27)
Last: zonk

NewsblogThe Human Splinter
(26 - 10:44pm, Oct 27)
Last: There's a bustle in Misirlou's hedgerow

NewsblogOT: NBA 2016-17 Preseason Thread
(353 - 10:42pm, Oct 27)
Last: Moses Taylor, Unwavering Optimist

Hall of Merit2017 Hall of Merit Ballot Discussion
(115 - 9:10pm, Oct 27)
Last: Kiko Sakata

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 10-27-2016
(17 - 8:29pm, Oct 27)
Last: BDC

Page rendered in 0.2914 seconds
47 querie(s) executed