Heading into the 2013 season, MLB has only one minority general manager, Amaro, and four minority managers – three African Americans and a Latino.

Does Michael Hill have to go on a multistate killing spree for anyone to take notice of him? I know that Beinfest is still considered the man in charge, and for good reason, but Hill is the GM. It's right there in his title.

Oh, and the way old Murray phrased this makes it sound like Duncan was forced out because his wife got cancer, which obviously isn't what he meant, but it wouldn't surprise me if some people came away with that impression.

Does Michael Hill have to go on a multistate killing spree for anyone to take notice of him? I know that Beinfest is still considered the man in charge, and for good reason, but Hill is the GM. It's right there in his title.

You can't expect bloggers to do simple things like check facts. They have no journalistic integrity.

When looking at the headline, did anyone else think this was a story about the San Antonio Spurs?

I'm not clinking on a Chass link, does he mention Ken Williams? I know he's not the GM, but that's because he got promoted.

Oh, and the way old Murray phrased this makes it sound like Duncan was forced out because his wife got cancer, which obviously isn't what he meant, but it wouldn't surprise me if some people came away with that impression.

That's what I thought at first. I read it again and figured out what he meant.

RACISM AND CANCER BOTH TOTALLY SUCK, MR. PRESIDENT

Since the Philadelphia Phillies named Ruben Amaro Jr. general manager Nov. 3, 2008, teams have hired 14 general managers. All have been white.

Does anyone fall for this stuff anymore?

Repoz is hoping.

Has anyone ever seen Chass and Repoz at the same time? Huh, huh? J'accuse!

23 managers hired, dating to May 2010

Wow. In 3 years. Is Bochy the longest-tenured?

Dupe.

When looking at the headline, did anyone else think this was a story about the San Antonio Spurs?

Yep. I must be hanging out at the NBA thread too often.

I think Sciosia is the longest tenured.

In 2013 what sort of racist/idiot is still checking the race/gender of people in various jobs?

Egads, I can't tell who's sarcastic and who's serious in this thread.

Who's the most-qualified non-Caucasian candidate to be a ML GM? I know Kim Ng's name gets thrown around from time to time, and I think Al Avila and DeJon Watson have interviewed for jobs, but who else is there?

In 2013 what sort of racist/idiot is still checking the race/gender of people in various jobs?

I'd like to see the process on how they check gender. I assume its similar to the Westminster Dog Show?

Who's the most-qualified non-Caucasian candidate to be a ML GM? I know Kim Ng's name gets thrown around from time to time, and I think Al Avila and DeJon Watson have interviewed for jobs, but who else is there?

Peter Woodfork. I think he used to work for the D-Backs and is with MLB now.

Shiraz Rehman with the D-Backs.

Does Bill Geivett have an ethnic background? He doesn't look completely white.

MLBTR posted a list of GM candidates a year or two ago. The only minorities listed, out of the 28 names, were Ng, Avila, Watson, Woodfork, and Rehman.

Ng is in her early 40s, while Rehman is 34 and Woodfork can't be much older. If discrimination is holding back minorities in MLB, then there should be a list of people in their 40s and 50s who still haven't gotten their shot.

As noted, where are all the women GMs? Why is this not a Problem To Be Fabricated And Then Solved?

Ng is in her early 40s, while Rehman is 34 and Woodfork can't be much older. If discrimination is holding back minorities in MLB, then there should be a list of people in their 40s and 50s who still haven't gotten their shot.

It could be minorities aren't getting hired for even the lower level executive positions that would make them candidates to become GMs. I'm not saying that is the case, but I don't think the absence of candidates is conclusive evidence that there isn't some racism going on.

True, but there are probably other things that are more likely to be keeping minorities out of the pipeline than racism. Among other things, blacks and Latinos with Ivy League resumés — which has increasingly been the path into MLB — are both in big demand in the marketplace and less likely to have wealthy parents. If their choice out of college is to take a $60,000 or $100,000 job outside MLB or a $28,000 starting bb ops job in MLB (or a $0 internship), I doubt many such people will pick the latter, even if they love baseball.

True, but there are probably other things that are more likely to be keeping minorities out of the pipeline than racism. Among other things, blacks and Latinos with Ivy League resumés — which has increasingly been the path into MLB — are both in big demand in the marketplace and less likely to have wealthy parents. If their choice out of college is to take a $60,000 or $100,000 job outside MLB or a $28,000 starting bb ops job in MLB (or a $0 internship), I doubt many such people will pick the latter, even if they love baseball.

Realistically how many gms have Ivy League resumes?

Note: I agree with the point, first thing I thought of when I was reading the comments here was how many minorities are on similar paths as the current crop of gms, didn't even think about the liklihood that they wouldn't take the lower paying job just to be in the business, but that is a very good point.

Shouldn't the African-American total get partial credit for Padres manager Bud Black?

If discrimination is holding back minorities in MLB, then there should be a list of people in their 40s and 50s who still haven't gotten their shot.

Do you mean they should have appeared on that list? I don't know what the criteria were for putting that list together but the people in their 40s and 50s who aren't being seriously considered for GM slots aren't going to appear on a list of likely GM candidates.

If you were saying "if there's discrimination then there must be a group of seemingly qualified minority candidates who aren't even being considered -- somebody should compile a list" then OK.

Anyway, every year we get a few articles pointing out how few African-Americans there are playing MLB today. I assume it's also about the same percentage playing in the minors. Former players is probably still the main source of managers and GMs. I suspect both percentages are higher than the percentage of African-Americans graduating Ivy League or obtaining MBAs or whatever the latest GM trend might be. We should expect to see a declining number of African-American executives in baseball. I didn't recognize any of those names above as former players.

Where we should be seeing growth is in Latin executives although I suspect that GMs will always tend towards American-born (unless perhaps we see a big shift away from American-born owners).

Do you mean they should have appeared on that list? I don't know what the criteria were for putting that list together but the people in their 40s and 50s who aren't being seriously considered for GM slots aren't going to appear on a list of likely GM candidates.

If you were saying "if there's discrimination then there must be a group of seemingly qualified minority candidates who aren't even being considered -- somebody should compile a list" then OK.

I was saying the second one.

Where we should be seeing growth is in Latin executives although I suspect that GMs will always tend towards American-born (unless perhaps we see a big shift away from American-born owners).

I don't know if the "American-born" part is important, but American-educated almost assuredly is. Until the players coming out of Latin America have more of a U.S.-type education, we're not going to see many Latino ex-players rising up through the MLB executive ranks.

When looking at the headline, did anyone else think this was a story about the San Antonio Spurs?

I did, and was very confused as to when Chass started ranting about basketball too.