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Thursday, May 17, 2012

Murray Chass On Baseball » HE EMBARRASSES SELIG SO HE’S GONE

An interesting look at the Shyam Das firing.

Neither Michael Weiner, the head of the union, nor Rob Manfred, the clubs’ chief labor executive, would comment on the Das dismissal. But a baseball official said Das was fired because Commissioner Bud Selig felt the Braun decision publicly embarrassed him. Selig did not return a call Wednesday seeking comment.

Jim Furtado Posted: May 17, 2012 at 10:12 AM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: arbitration, labor

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   1. Gamingboy Posted: May 17, 2012 at 10:17 AM (#4133793)
...MISTER PRESIDENT
   2. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: May 17, 2012 at 10:23 AM (#4133799)
I thought the headline meant Bud had ordered a hit on Murray Chass.
   3. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 17, 2012 at 10:34 AM (#4133813)
I thought the headline meant Bud had ordered a hit on Murray Chass.


Bud Selig or Murray Chass in a Running Man (or Hunger Games) style battle to the death. Who do you root for? I'd go for Selig but I'm not as anti-Selig as a lot of folks here.
   4. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: May 17, 2012 at 10:38 AM (#4133821)
Bud Selig or Murray Chass in a Running Man (or Hunger Games) style battle to the death. Who do you root for? I'd go for Selig but I'm not as anti-Selig as a lot of folks here.


It's a real Hobson's Choice but it would be cool if they found Selig's Mr. Burns-like body riddled with bullets, patterned in upper case, F*** YOU, MR. COMMISSIONER.
   5. Jim Wisinski Posted: May 17, 2012 at 10:40 AM (#4133823)
There are limits on what Selig can do because any decisions of his will often be dependent on what's allowed under the CBA or what the owners/players union are willing to do. Nobody, not an editor, a publisher, common sense, decency, journalistic standards, or ethics put any restriction on what Murray Chass writes.
   6. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: May 17, 2012 at 10:45 AM (#4133828)
Bud Selig or Murray Chass in a Running Man (or Hunger Games) style battle to the death. Who do you root for? I'd go for Selig but I'm not as anti-Selig as a lot of folks here.


I'd root for an Ali-Frazier style match. They combine for over 150 years, so the winner wouldn't have much left at the end.
   7. I Knew A Guy Who Knew A Guy Who Knew Rey Ordonez Posted: May 17, 2012 at 12:02 PM (#4133900)
From Chass' Wikipedia entry:

In 2003 the Baseball Writers Association of America erroneously (emphasis added) honored him with the J. G. Taylor Spink Awardt [sic]


Das embarrasses Selig and gets canned, yet the Marlins' front office remains...
   8. Best Regards, L.M. Posted: May 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM (#4133920)
If Braun's failed test was never leaked, the decision wouldn't have been embarassing at all. Because we would never have heard about it.
   9. base ball chick Posted: May 17, 2012 at 12:45 PM (#4133945)
we STILL don't know who leaked braun's test results, do we? sad that this is not being investigated at ALL

I would bet that das still would have been fired if the test and the arb hearing had been done without leakage because selig still obviously WANTS a couple of big stars to get hit every year to prove that everything is working.

And i thought that this was a very good blog entry - chass isn't always bad. i think the stuff he writes on labor problems is good - and interesting,
   10. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: May 17, 2012 at 01:00 PM (#4133956)
we STILL don't know who leaked braun's test results, do we? sad that this is not being investigated at ALL


Michael Weiner has said, “The breach of confidentiality associated with this matter is unfortunate but, after investigation, we are confident that it was not caused by the Commissioner’s Office, the MLBPA or anyone associated in any way with the Program.”
   11. SoSH U at work Posted: May 17, 2012 at 01:01 PM (#4133957)
we STILL don't know who leaked braun's test results, do we? sad that this is not being investigated at ALL


It doesn't appear to have come from MLB.

From a link in the Das firing thread:

If not for the leak -- which came from someone whom the Braun defense team talked to in preparing their case -- no one would have known that the NL MVP had a positive drug test, appealed the decision and won his appeal. All of that would have remained confidential, as designed in the program.

Coke to Satchel.
   12. eddieot Posted: May 17, 2012 at 01:05 PM (#4133962)
And i thought that this was a very good blog entry - chass isn't always bad. i think the stuff he writes on labor problems is good - and interesting,

Agreed. Murray's perspective on labor matters is broad and deep. Historically, he was one of the few reporters who dared to present the players' side of things without a "men being payed to play a child's game" mentality.
   13. base ball chick Posted: May 17, 2012 at 01:59 PM (#4134024)
satchel n sosh

thank you for that info - still don't know who the leaker actually IS or why the leaker went to the media with the info. or why the leaker isn't in trouble for discussing confidential medical info

eddieot,

even these days, i think that a whole lot of people think that baseball players
1 - shouldn't be paid much
2 - should be the property of the team as long as the team wants them - and shouldn't have 5 and 10 rights neither
3 - should not be allowed to have any sort of binding contract but should be released at any time without pay for any reason (not sure if that means that they can sign with another team if they want which kind of violates rule 2)
   14. TerpNats Posted: May 17, 2012 at 02:03 PM (#4134029)
Bud Selig or Murray Chass in a Running Man (or Hunger Games) style battle to the death.
With Ken Harrelson as a mercenary sniper who, after every hit, yells, "HE GONE!"
   15. gef the talking mongoose Posted: May 17, 2012 at 02:12 PM (#4134037)
even these days, i think that a whole lot of people think that baseball players
1 - shouldn't be paid much
2 - should be the property of the team as long as the team wants them - and shouldn't have 5 and 10 rights neither
3 - should not be allowed to have any sort of binding contract but should be released at any time without pay for any reason (not sure if that means that they can sign with another team if they want which kind of violates rule 2)


And why not? They signed up to play for money.

Oops ... sorry. Flashing back to the Avengers argument last night.
   16. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: May 17, 2012 at 03:06 PM (#4134097)
Really?

*eye roll*
   17. Srul Itza Posted: May 17, 2012 at 03:14 PM (#4134110)
gef isn't happy unless every thread is about him, and what he thinks is important. He has become very trollish.
   18. Double-Spin Mechanic Posted: May 18, 2012 at 11:20 AM (#4134873)
If the commish fires everyone who embarrasses him, what this "Bud Selig" character still doing around here?
   19. base ball chick Posted: May 18, 2012 at 12:02 PM (#4134930)
commish fires everyone who doesn't vote the way the owners want the vote to go - always have, always will

gef

what did i have to say have to do with comic book characters?

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