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Thursday, May 02, 2013

Murray Chass on Sports: BLOT OUT THIS BLOGGER

While self-censorship can be a beautiful thing…but unfortunato, it’s about Prime Minister Pete Nash.

Known in his rapper days as Prime Minister Pete Nice, Peter Nash is known today as the epitome of what is primarily wrong with the Internet and blogs. He is also known for his propensity for losing lawsuits, accusing others of fraud while defrauding others himself and, perhaps worst of all, for forcing his father to give up the prestigious academic role he had for nearly half a century in a case that at least bordered on embezzlement.

I first encountered Nash’s name and talked to him in July 2011 for a column I wrote about how he had grotesquely maligned and tried to destroy the reputation – posthumously – of Barry Halper, a limited partner of the New York Yankees, a world renowned collector of baseball memorabilia and a genuinely good person.Peter Nash

Halper, it turns out, has not been the only memorabilia figure Nash has maligned unfairly. He’s still doing it and has done it to this day. He has a pattern: beat him in a lawsuit or a business deal and expect him to write viciously nasty things about you.

That’s where the Internet and blogs come in. They give Nash a free hand to do and say what he wants about whom he wants with no way of being stopped.

Nash has a Web site, “Hauls of Shame,” which he uses to defame people. The Internet gives him that opportunity. Anybody can use the Internet for whatever purpose he wants. You don’t need a license. Just pay a few bucks a month, put a name on the site and you’re off and writing.

The blogger has no and needs no accountability. There’s no one to say, hey, you can’t say that about somebody. Some criticism is valid, but much of it isn’t; yet the blogger is free to write whatever he wants and the object of his viciousness has no recourse.

Repoz Posted: May 02, 2013 at 07:55 AM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. I Am Not a Number Posted: May 02, 2013 at 08:21 AM (#4431546)
The blogger has no and needs no accountability... yet the blogger is free to write whatever he wants

Said with no sense of irony.
   2. Lassus Posted: May 02, 2013 at 08:27 AM (#4431552)
I hate to even ask this, but from reading here and elsewhere, I had taken Hauls of Shame to be pretty well-documented in regards to its claims of, er, shame. Is that accurate? Does anyone follow closer?
   3. deputydrew Posted: May 02, 2013 at 09:05 AM (#4431559)
Anyone interested in baseball memorabilia should read Operation Bullpen.
   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 02, 2013 at 09:05 AM (#4431560)
I had never heard of this guy, so kudos Murray, for giving this guy some free pub.
   5. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: May 02, 2013 at 09:08 AM (#4431564)
Doesn't Repoz link to Hauls of Shame all the time?
   6. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: May 02, 2013 at 09:19 AM (#4431568)
Today's lecture deals with the Gas Face.
   7. Eric Ferguson Posted: May 02, 2013 at 09:38 AM (#4431586)
Echoing No. 4's sentiment. This seems an odd tack to take.

I also kept waiting for Old MC to drop something like, "By the way, I'm aware of the irony of appearing on the Internet in order to decry it. So don't bother pointing that out."

What is his story? He used to work for a reputable news organization but now he writes from his mom's basement?
   8. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: May 02, 2013 at 09:42 AM (#4431594)
5: And how.

Here's a 4 year old SI story on Nash (reading it would explain, among other things, Sam H's current alias, if you were curious)- it's good (and I think we had a thread on it at the time). Subsequently, Nash got in trouble for not filing his taxes - and his dad then got in trouble for using school funds to keep his kid's house out of foreclosure.

Nobody here - Nash, Halper, Chass - looks like a good actor.
   9. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: May 02, 2013 at 10:38 AM (#4431669)
In this sort of world it's all based on whose word you trust. Even if Prime Minister Pete Nice is acting vindictively, the multi-decade Barry Halper publicity machine needed some pushback.
   10. Jim Overmyer Posted: May 02, 2013 at 10:39 AM (#4431671)
I don't know that much about Nash and his background, but Chass seems to make it clear that Nash made an unsubstantiated attack on Barry Halper and his collection. However, the Hall of Fame has removed the several items Halper had donated from its public collection and has subdivided the room formerly known as the Halper Gallery into a baseball art gallery and a classroom for its education program. The Hall must have thought there was something to the allegations about some of Halper's collection.
   11. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: May 02, 2013 at 10:40 AM (#4431672)
Today's lecture deals with the Gas Face.

Aiyo, my labelmate Don Newcombe, step to him.
   12. My guest will be Jermaine Allensworth Posted: May 02, 2013 at 11:44 AM (#4431765)
Doesn't Repoz link to Hauls of Shame all the time?

Most of the Hauls of Shame stories are posted by a self-linker. Or at least somebody who only posts links to Hauls of Shame.
   13. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 02, 2013 at 11:59 AM (#4431799)
Chass provides exactly zero evidence - either in this column or in the July 2011 column he references - that anything Nash said about Halper was untrue. His only defense is that he thinks Halper was "a genuinely good person," and he quotes a close friend of Halper's saying he would never have done anything fraudulent.

This has been a really interesting story to follow, and if there is any reason to think that Nash's charges against Halper are unfair or untrue, I'd love to read about it. But Murray hasn't written that column.
   14. Monty Posted: May 02, 2013 at 12:24 PM (#4431860)
Yeah, Murray, I too hate bloggers who post accusations without evidence.
   15. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: May 02, 2013 at 12:36 PM (#4431877)
Barry Halper's back is as smooth as a baby's bottom, evidently.
   16. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: May 02, 2013 at 12:39 PM (#4431881)
PETER NASH IS ALMOST AS BAD A HUMAN BEING AS STAN MUSIAL, MISTER PRESIDENT
   17. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: May 02, 2013 at 12:48 PM (#4431893)
This is amazing. The fights Chass picks...

But I had no idea the dude from 3rd Bass was so involved in baseball history. Here is a book he wrote on ballplayers buried in Brooklyn's Green-Wood Cemetery.

EDIT - If this book is mentioned in TFA, whatever. It's not like I actually click Chass's links. But I would like to thank him for alerting me to this; for once I learned something cool and interesting from one of his columns blogs.
   18. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: May 02, 2013 at 01:04 PM (#4431911)
I don't know that much about Nash and his background, but Chass seems to make it clear that Nash made an unsubstantiated attack on Barry Halper and his collection. However, the Hall of Fame has removed the several items Halper had donated from its public collection and has subdivided the room formerly known as the Halper Gallery into a baseball art gallery and a classroom for its education program. The Hall must have thought there was something to the allegations about some of Halper's collection.

There's no question that much of Halper's fabled collection was bogus. The only question is the extent to which he was aware of it, since some of the places he bought those pieces from were famously sleazy and borderline criminal themselves. To the extent that Chass has any point at all, it's only in defense of Halper's cluelessness. And of course the irony of Chass demanding proof before making serious accusations is way past the point of being a farce.
   19. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: May 02, 2013 at 01:07 PM (#4431913)
Most of the Hauls of Shame stories are posted by a self-linker. Or at least somebody who only posts links to Hauls of Shame.
I'm assuming it's Nash then.

BTW, self-linkers (unless it's someone like Szymborski or Megdal) are the REAL ones who Never Should Have Written That Column and ought to Have Their Children Taken Away.
   20. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 02, 2013 at 02:29 PM (#4432010)
This has been a really interesting story to follow, and if there is any reason to think that Nash's charges against Halper are unfair or untrue, I'd love to read about it. But Murray hasn't written that column.


Yep. Nash has exhaustively demonstrated that many of the items in Halper's collection were fakes, and that many of the stories Halper told about the provenance of items in his collection were outright lies. I can understand wanting to stand by your friends, but at some point, you need to follow the evidence.

There's certainly a lot more evidence at this point to suggest that Halper was complicit in fraud and forgery than there is to suggest that Mike Piazza used steroids.
   21. AJMcCringleberry Posted: May 02, 2013 at 02:55 PM (#4432050)
Murray is just trolling us at this point, right?
   22. HowardMegdal Posted: May 02, 2013 at 04:59 PM (#4432210)
19. That is a relief. I am quite fond of my child.
Though actually, I've never self-linked. Understand it to be a faux pas. It was kind of you to give me the exception, though.
I send pieces I think will foster discussion to Darren, who is kind enough to post when he agrees.
Incidentally, pretty sure Dan doesn't have any children, which seems like a shame.
   23. Walt Davis Posted: May 02, 2013 at 05:31 PM (#4432235)
The blogger has no and needs no accountability. There’s no one to say, hey, you can’t say that about somebody. Some criticism is valid, but much of it isn’t; yet the blogger is free to write whatever he wants and the object of his viciousness has no recourse.

Well, no recourse except to sue the blogger for slander (or libel ... whichever).

It has always been true that any schmuck could run around saying whatever he/she wanted to say about you and there's never been anything you could do to stop it except to file a suit ... which still wouldn't stop them but might get you some compensation. Obviously the internet makes mass dissemination of the libel easier ... assuming anybody ever pays any attention ... but it also makes it a lot easier to sue.
   24. madvillain Posted: May 02, 2013 at 07:16 PM (#4432324)
More self awareness for our pop-culture folks: Amanda Bynes or Murray Chass? Imma go with Amanda.
   25. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: May 04, 2013 at 10:39 PM (#4434266)
It has always been true that any schmuck could run around saying whatever he/she wanted to say about you and there's never been anything you could do to stop it except to file a suit ...


Well, nose punching has long been an option.
   26. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: May 04, 2013 at 11:12 PM (#4434283)
PLEASE STOP SAYING MEAN THINGS ABOUT BARRY HALPER, MR. PRIME MINISTER.

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