Generally, however, the Daily News has done a far more impressive and aggressive job than The New York Times, whose sports section these days seems more interested in snowboarding and dog-sledding than legitimate news. For much of the run of the Bosch stories, the Times has quoted another publication or Web site.
In fact, the Miami New Times has appeared so frequently – 9 days in a 12-day span before Sunday – that the papers’ names seem to be blending and emerging as the Miami/New York New/Old Times or simply the New/Old Times.
At the end of that period, the Old Times, by its own admission, “has not independently authenticated the Bosch records….”
Does this mean the records are suspect? Or might it mean the Old Times has been unable to match the New Times’ report; in other words, the Old Times doesn’t have the documents so it doesn’t know if they are or aren’t legitimate?
There was a time when the Old Times would not give credence to another publication’s report if the Old Times couldn’t learn of the report’s information on its own. Maybe the Old Times has changed its policy because if it didn’t carry other publications’ reports, it would miss a lot of stories and deprive its readers of information readers of other newspapers would know.
This is not to say the Old Times has not had stories other papers haven’t had. Last Thursday the Old Times quoted “recent associates of Bosch,” who doubted that he was capable of being “at the nexus of a major doping scandal.”
My first thought was the Old Times, unable to match the New Times story, was trying to debunk it. That sort of gamesmanship has gone on forever in the industry, especially where there has been fierce competition, such as in New York with its two tabloids, the Daily News and the Post.
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1. bobm Posted: February 10, 2013 at 01:23 PM (#4366505)If only the Times could have emulated the News by publishing a book about what a total asshole Roger Clemens is, breaking the "he was banging a young chippy on the side" story, being an open forum for any confident prediction the prosecution felt like issuing while simultaneously mocking Clemens' defense attorney as a overmatched hick blowhard, and finally, throwing a loud, many-months tantrum after Clemens was almost immediately acquitted by the jury. You know, "an impressive job."
As much of a total idiot that Chass has been from the day he was given the boot from the Times, he's right about their current sports section. There are days when seeing all those articles about dog shows, skiers, and other minor sports, I think I'm looking at a stack of Sports Illustrateds from 1954 or 1955, when it had more cover stories about animals than it did about baseball or football.
Gold Jerry! Gold!
You mean like the NY Times did with the various Hilary Clinton scandals? At least 4 times William Safire claimed his sources told him a Hilary indictment was on the way.
Fortunately the Times had learned its lesson by the time the Bush administration was beating the Iraq War drums ... oh.
The Daily News has plenty of annoying sports columnists...in part because they have lots of sports columnists. The Times just isn't relevant. (I don't think they were relevant in Chass' day either for that matter.)
Unless one associates the Times solely with quality and tabloids solely with dreck, there's no mystery here. Tabloids get readers by covering sports and local news (especially crime) really well. There's no question that the Daily News kills the Times day after day on city news, just murders them. The Post varies more. But that's because the Daily News cares a lot about it, and the Times doesn't care much at all.
Same with sports (though this has maybe closed recently.) If you can't break news stories in the DN sports, you're done. The Times isn't really trying on that level.
In national political news, the Times cares a lot and the DN mails it in, and the disparity is vast, and of course even more vast in international news or arts or books or things like that.
But it is easy to both believe the Times is by far the greatest newspaper in the country, maybe the world, and that the DN beats it silly in sports and local news.
Of course, although if you look at the Times' Sunday and Monday sports sections during the baseball and football seasons, you can see that it's not a matter of talent or resources, it's a matter of some stupid ####### sports editor whose apparent mission in life is to cram every sob story and political angle down their readers' throats, and the more it involves women or minor sports the better. On Sundays and Mondays it's the best sports section in the country, and for the other five days it's pretty close to being the worst.
At Dog Show, Judge Defends His Fairness
and boy, chass is sustaining his drilling of his ex-employer
Didn't Chass volunteer for a lucrative buy-out, to go with his lucrative pension for 39 years with the NYT? Not exactly booted, although he does seem to miss the status he enjoyed before he became a mere blogger.
"I'm only as self-important and cocky as I deserve to be, because I am a genius."
Didn't Chass volunteer for a lucrative buy-out, to go with his lucrative pension for 39 years with the NYT? Not exactly booted, although he does seem to miss the status he enjoyed before he became a mere blogger.
It was voluntary in the sense that he could've refused the offer and hung around like a lame duck. But it was the Times that took the initiative and made the offer in the first place. It wasn't as if Chass woke up one morning and out of nowhere decided he'd rather be a blogger.
I've known plenty of journalists who've taken buyouts, and not a single one of them has subsequently acted towards his or her former employer in the petulant way that Chass has in the past five years. He denies that he was effectively fired, but if that were really the case the body language of his blogging sure suggests otherwise. The irony is that it's almost certain that he was offered the buyout for purely financial reasons, not because the Times took a look at his column and realized that they were paying Abe Simpson to yell at a cloud.
Jay Mariotti was worse after he left the Sun-Times (See Jay the Rat BY ROGER EBERT for more info), but his five-year probation sentence seems to have shut him up.
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