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Never get involved in a land war in OMNICHATTER!, for August 22, 2017

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LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 22, 2017 at 01:08 PM | 139 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:46 PM (#5519085)
Granted, iIve never been hit square in the mask by a MLB fastball, but I have been hit by a foul straight back off the bat which is probably 80 MPH or so. It really doesn't hurt at all. Far worse is getting hit in the arm, in the thigh above the shinguards, or in that tiny opening between the top of the chest protector and the bottom of the mask.

Maybe square over sold it. But it was 96mph and maybe just grazed the catchers glove. He stumbled back a fee steps and was lucky to stay on his feet.
   102. Walt Davis Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:46 PM (#5519086)
By OPS+, min 2000 PA, min 75% games at SS, Didi ranks 3rd for LHB-only:

Vaughan 136
Hollocher 110
Gregorius 96
Crawford 95
Drew 94

Gregorius and Crawford are reasonably likely to fall behind Al Bridwell (91 OPS+) by the time they get to his 4932 PA. (Drew is already at 4917.) I was a bit surprised Crawford was this low but he's having a terrible season.

If we go by WAA, Crawford jumps easily up to 3rd thanks to defense while Didi and Drew fall behind Bridwell. Kubek makes a big move up to 4th.
   103. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:49 PM (#5519089)
He stabled back a fee steps and was lucky to stay on his feet.


Oh sure. It will get your attention, and it always looks worse than it is. I get way more attention from the coaches when I get hit in the mask or chest protector, than on unprotected flesh, which hurts a hell of a lot more. probably because it sounds worse.
   104. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:55 PM (#5519090)
Stupid autocorrect. Also, schwarber rung up on a clear ball again.
   105. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:57 PM (#5519091)
Why the hell was Bryant even still in this game...
   106. Walt Davis Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:58 PM (#5519092)
Your all-time LHB-only team:

OF: Choose 3 of Ruth, Bonds, Cobb, Williams, Speaker, Musial
1B: Gehrig (or Musial)
2B: Eddie Collins (or Morgan)
SS: Arky Vaughan
3B: Mathews (Boggs/Brett)
C: Yogi/Dickey

Obviously SS is the only position where you take a big hit on the second-string.

Obviously it looks different in the expansion era:

OF: Bonds, Griffey, Walker, Yaz
1B: Thome
2B: Morgan (Carew can back up here and 1B)
SS: Crawford (Didi, Drew)
3B: Boggs/Brett
C: Mauer or Darrell Porter (Mauer hasn't really caught that much)

You see much less dominance by OFs in the more recent era. Bonds is #1 in WAA but followed by Morgan, Boggs and Brett. Carew, Whitaker, Utley take up spots 8-10 followed by Lofton. So four of the top 10 LHB by WAA in the expansion era have been 2B (and two more at 3B).

   107. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:58 PM (#5519093)
Gameday had it as a strike.
   108. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:58 PM (#5519094)
Yes, (re my own post) I realize the short bench means you can't just sit everyone down.
   109. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 22, 2017 at 10:59 PM (#5519095)
Well, TLS already PH. Almora and zobrist are in as subs, pre out of handedness. So you want to see Rene Rivera, 3b?

Then again, wtf, Rizzo too?
   110. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:00 PM (#5519097)
That looked gone.
   111. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:00 PM (#5519098)
Jesus...Storen's a ####### menace.
   112. cardsfanboy Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:00 PM (#5519099)
Solarte is taking the Cardinals out back to the shed and just beating them.
   113. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:01 PM (#5519100)
Rivera at third for an inning probably wouldn't hurt anything, but yes, see my own reply to myself.
   114. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:02 PM (#5519101)
So Bryant is out. Rizzo playing 3rd now. Avila at first.
   115. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:04 PM (#5519102)
yes, see my own reply to myself.

While true, in this case the bench wasn't short, it's empty.

With last years roster, Travis wood would be in LF about now.
   116. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:04 PM (#5519103)
I think I'd go to Rivera at third before Rizzo, yes.
   117. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:05 PM (#5519104)
Man, I hope Bryant didnt break anything. What a kick in the balls that would be.
   118. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:06 PM (#5519105)
Oh my God, Scott Alexander is on for an extraordinarily difficult save opportunity:

Royals up by a run. 2 outs. But bases loaded. And.....the batter is ahead in the count 2-0. (Kelvin Herrera appears to have injured his arm right in the middle of the plate appearance; he threw a 91 mph fastball and the second Salvy caught it he motioned for the trainer to come out of the dugout.)

EDIT: And this would be the first save of Alexander's career too.
   119. Textbook Editor Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:07 PM (#5519106)
So... when was the last 1-hitter like this one?
   120. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:08 PM (#5519107)
With last years roster, Travis wood would be in LF about now.

No doubt wishing that he was the one playing third.
   121. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:08 PM (#5519108)
Just thought I'd file this here under the "WTF, but I'll take it category."

Doug Fister just threw a CG, 1 hitter against the Indians. The lone hit was a lead off homer. Issued 2 BB...and that's it.

Of course next outing he'll give up 6 runs in 4 innings and the world will return to it's normal axis.
   122. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:10 PM (#5519109)
Yeesh. Let Rizzo pitch and put Pena at third.
   123. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:10 PM (#5519110)
Gimmie a ####### break
   124. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:18 PM (#5519113)
Cubs win, and I flip over to MLB Network just in time to see Eric Byrnes going full Cornholio about his ML debut. Yay.
   125. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:21 PM (#5519115)
Same. It's stupid, especially with that haircut, yet I was oddly entertained.
   126. cardsfanboy Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:23 PM (#5519116)
So... when was the last 1-hitter like this one?


Shelby Miller threw a one hitter after a leadoff single, (May 10th, 2011.)
   127. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:23 PM (#5519117)
Bryant walking to clubhouse w/ trainer with his left hand wrapped up in ice. Cubs don't need any bad news with an already banged up club.
   128. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:25 PM (#5519120)
In other news, Harold Reynolds hates the "new rule" where "they give [the runner] the plate, but the catcher can take it away." You know, the rule that specifically provides that the catcher can't take the plate away. Also per Harold, the team with the "best young talent in all of baseball" is the Minnesota Twins.
   129. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:25 PM (#5519121)
Yep, that was the last straw for me. Bed time I guess.
   130. Textbook Editor Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:32 PM (#5519123)
#126--thanks; I am not so good at BBRef's search functions...
   131. Randomly Fluctuating Defensive Metric Posted: August 22, 2017 at 11:44 PM (#5519126)
You know, thinking this Marlins thing over, wouldn't they be crazy to tear this team down? I mean sure, the Minor League system is terrible, but Yelich, Ozuna, and Stanton are all relatively young players. These are the kind of guys you hope to develop while rebuilding. And for the Marlins, they are already right there on the roster. Really the problem with this team is the infield, overall depth, and pitching staff. That's probably too much to fix in one offseason, but if the new ownership is willing to spend, making some deft moves over a two to three year period can result in some pretty impressive teams without remotely tearing it down. Meanwhile, while they try to contend, there's always spending money internationally and drafting well to rebuild the farm system. Straily and Urena look like reasonable bets to be mid-rotation contributors next season. Stanton, Ozuna, Yelich, Realmuto, and Bour is really not a bad group of players from which to build. Maybe dealing Bour for a decent starting pitcher and signing Duda as a replacement could work as an opening salvo. Either way, I feel like Jeter will try to win immediately with this team, which may not actually be a bad strategy, so long as the moves are sound, and they don't try to address everything in one offseason. Gary Denbo seems like he would be a really solid hire at General Manager.
   132. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 23, 2017 at 12:00 AM (#5519132)
Kole Calhoun comes up big! Two-run double makes it a 3-0 game.
   133. Walt Davis Posted: August 23, 2017 at 12:54 AM (#5519145)
Grrr ... probably too late for anybody to notice but this used to be a pretty well known bit of trivia

June 23, 1917, Babe Ruth started against the Senators. He walked the first batter and got tossed. Ernie Shore replaced him and threw a perfect game.

Looking at the box score, he also tossed the catcher.
   134. Walt Davis Posted: August 23, 2017 at 01:03 AM (#5519147)
wouldn't they be crazy to tear this team down?

Yep. They're near 500 right now. Not only are Stanton, Yelich and Ozuna good and young, Yelich is also signed through 2022 at a good price. Ozuna has two arb years left but there's a bit of bad blood between him and team and Boras is his agent. One challenge is that they still owe $28 M to Prado and $38 M to Gordon. Realmuto and Bour are about to get very nice raises but they're just 1st year arb so no big deal.

The rotation clearly needs a lot of work and the bullpen's not great either but this is a team ready to take off with some investment. In fine Marlins tradition, I assume the new owners will splurge (probably next offseason rather than this one, just to get their feet wet), win a WS THEN trade everybody. :-)

That said, Yelich is a 4-WAR player owed just 4/$45 with a $15 option -- they could get a lot in trade for him. Ozuna's last two arb years are also a nice, tradeable asset. Realmuto would be in huge demand. They could rebuild a farm system quickly.
   135. Randomly Fluctuating Defensive Metric Posted: August 23, 2017 at 01:08 AM (#5519148)
134. Indeed, Yelich would probably bring back an absolute haul in a trade. One of the strange things your post alludes to is the Marlins' tendency to make puzzling decisions with the money they actually do spend -- a sizable extension for Gordon coming off a career year, extending Prado (why?), and last offseason's obsession with dealing out contracts to veteran middle relievers. They have been a strange, strange team.
   136. Random Transaction Generator Posted: August 23, 2017 at 01:21 AM (#5519151)
#126: Phillies HOF'er Robin Roberts gave up a lead-off home run to the Reds' Bobby Adams, and then retired the next 27 batters in a row (no hits, no walks). That was back in 1954.
   137. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 23, 2017 at 01:33 AM (#5519153)
Pujols has a rare big game for the Angels. RBI double in the 1st, and a 3-run shot in the 7th to extend the Angels to a 10-1 lead. Career homer 610 for Pujols, and the Angels look like they're going to keep pace with the Twins tonight. Royals and Rays win as well, Rangers, Orioles, Mariners lose.

Three homers more, and Pujols passes Thome for 7th all-time in homers.
   138. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: August 23, 2017 at 10:59 AM (#5519285)
So I was looking at the 538 projections page today. For a while, the Astros division chances were listed as >99%. Today, they're simply listed as 99%. A total collapse is still unlikely but their poor play of late has moved their lead from historically insurmountable to 1995 Angels territory.
   139. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: August 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM (#5519397)
So I was looking at the 538 projections page today. For a while, the Astros division chances were listed as >99%. Today, they're simply listed as 99%. A total collapse is still unlikely but their poor play of late has moved their lead from historically insurmountable to 1995 Angels territory.

Heh. Which was probably considered historically insurmountable until those Angels pulled it off!
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