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Tuesday, September 17, 2019

New bowl game at Fenway Park to match teams from ACC, AAC

BOSTON (AP) — Add another bowl game to the mix, this one at Fenway Park.

The century-old baseball park will host a matchup between teams from the Atlantic Coast Conference and the American Athletic Conference, starting in 2020. The date for the Fenway Bowl is expected to be announced on Tuesday.

It will be the first college bowl game at the home of the Boston Red Sox. The ballpark has hosted other football dating back to 1912, including the American Football League’s Boston Patriots in the 1960s and The Game last year between Harvard and Yale.

Ah, something for which the lousy seats at Fenway will actually be appropriate!

 

QLE Posted: September 17, 2019 at 12:45 AM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. villageidiom Posted: September 17, 2019 at 09:44 AM (#5879914)
Ah, something for which the lousy seats at Fenway will actually be appropriate!
And the appropriate seats will be lousy!
   2. Jose is an Absurd Time Cube Posted: September 17, 2019 at 10:00 AM (#5879925)
I can’t wait for the city of Boston to not pay any attention to this game!
   3. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: September 17, 2019 at 10:06 AM (#5879930)
This joins the Pinstripe Bowl and the Cheez-It Bowl (played at Chase Field) as the only bowl games played in baseball stadiums. I wrote this comment so that I could type "Cheez-It Bowl".

I would assume that this bowl somehow replaces or supersedes the Military Bowl, which features the #7 team from the ACC vs someone from the AAC. That's "The Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman", in case you weren't sure which Military Bowl I was referring to. And it's not the Armed Forces Bowl, which has a really complex set of tie-ins involving the AAC, Big Ten, Big 12, Mountain West, and Army.

Anyway, last year's Military Bowl was 10-2 Cincinnati handling 6-6 Virginia Tech with relative ease. As the ACC continues to be absolute crap and the AAC isn't, there's likely something similar to look forward to.

I suppose that the dream of the Fenway Bowl people is that Boston College won't be incredibly horrible (i.e., not be the sort of team that loses at home to Kansas), so they can play in this game and get walloped by Tulsa or Houston or whoever.
   4. My name is RMc and I feel extremely affected Posted: September 17, 2019 at 11:48 AM (#5879971)
Far as I can tell, the first football game at Fenway was played on November 28, 1914, when the New England All-Stars defeated Carlisle Indian School, 13-6. (The first game featuring two college teams was November 6, 1915, when Dartmouth beat Penn, 7-3.) By my count, there have been 49 college football games at Fenway Park, but that number might be incomplete. (Notre Dame's 19-16 win over Boston College in 2015 was the first football game played there in nearly half a century, and the first college game since 1956.)

The Boston Redskins played 27 games at Fenway from 1933-36, with a 14-13 record. (They drew poorly, and moved elsewhere.)

The misbegotten Boston Yanks played 25 NFL games there from 1944-48, where they went 8-17. (I'd tell you what happened to the Yanks, but then I'd have to kill you.)

The Boston Patriots were 18-17-5 at Fenway from 1963-68.

Oh, and the Boston Beacons of the old North American Soccer League played 18 games at Fenway in 1968, with a 5-10-3 mark.

   5. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: September 17, 2019 at 12:03 PM (#5879977)
This joins the Pinstripe Bowl and the Cheez-It Bowl


Dang it, now I am hungry for a bowl of Cheez-Its.
   6. bfan Posted: September 17, 2019 at 12:15 PM (#5879981)
I assume if you stay close to the left sideline, you only need to go 80 yards for a touchdown.
   7. Zonk Will Not Get Over It Abusing Its Office Posted: September 17, 2019 at 12:25 PM (#5879984)
Wrigley has hosted football games in the past - and it's a tight fit... NU-Illinois played at Wrigley a few years back - and they only went one-direction. I see that Northwestern has some future season games slated for Wrigley starting next year (Wisconsin) and at least per the mockups - it appears that the renovations have somehow bought them more room (which doesn't make sense because I thought they added a few rows) as they'll use both endzones now.
   8. Dolf Lucky Posted: September 17, 2019 at 12:37 PM (#5879989)
#6 is well done.
   9. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 17, 2019 at 11:29 PM (#5880294)
The SF Giants no longer host that Hunger bowl, I think that's the one that moved to 49ers stadium, that was another shared sideline game.

Vin Scully made his broadcast debut working a college game (from the roof) at Fenway. I love hearing that story, and how impressed the brass was that he made it through those conditions.
   10. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 18, 2019 at 09:01 AM (#5880328)
Wrigley has hosted football games in the past - and it's a tight fit... NU-Illinois played at Wrigley a few years back - and they only went one-direction.


Of course, the Bears played at Wrigley for years, so I'm not sure why they could fit the field properly but NU couldn't. Do you know why that is? I don't think the configuration of the field itself has changed.
   11. Zonk Will Not Get Over It Abusing Its Office Posted: September 18, 2019 at 09:07 AM (#5880331)
Of course, the Bears played at Wrigley for years, so I'm not sure why they could fit the field properly but NU couldn't. Do you know why that is? I don't think the configuration of the field itself has changed.


I think part of it was the placement of the goalposts - in the endzone rather than behind... and I think the other part was less concern about people running into things at fullspeed....

Per this pic of the Bears at Wrigley - you can see that the endzone looks like it stops pretty much right where the wall starts.
   12. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 18, 2019 at 11:30 AM (#5880376)
The Boston Redskins played 27 games at Fenway from 1933-36, with a 14-13 record. (They drew poorly, and moved elsewhere.)

Fenway would've hosted the 1936 NFL Championship game against the Packers, but the Redskins' owner was steamed at the lack of advance sales and moved the game to the Polo Grounds in New York.

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Wrigley has hosted football games in the past - and it's a tight fit...

Not as tight a fit as Chicago Stadium, where the Bears had to play the 1932 NFL Championship game when Wrigley was buried under a blizzard.
The world’s largest indoor sporting arena, home to hockey’s Chicago Blackhawks and both the Republican and Democratic conventions in 1932, was a familiar venue to the Bears, who had played a charity football game there in 1930 against their cross town rival Chicago Cardinals. Halas knew, however, that the move from the friendly confines of Wrigley Field to the cramped quarters of Chicago Stadium would bring not only warmth but also a huge complication—the hockey rink could only accommodate a 60-yard field as opposed to the standard 100-yard gridiron.

With necessity being the mother of invention, the truncated field required special ground rules. Teams would kick off from the 10-yard line and bring touchbacks out to the 10-yard line as well. Whenever a team crossed midfield, the ball would be moved back 20 yards to artificially lengthen the field. Field goals would be banned, and a single goal post would be erected on the goal line, rather than at the back of the end zone, for extra point tries. Since the field would also be a few yards narrower than normal and ringed by a solid wall near the sidelines, in order to avoid injuries teams would be allowed to move the football toward the center of the field before the next play if a ball carrier went out of bounds or was tackled within 10 yards of the sideline, marking the first use of “hash marks” in professional football. ...

The players who did play before a near-capacity crowd of 11,198 fans dug into the 6-inch layer of dirt and tanbark that covered the arena’s cement floor and had been used the previous two nights by a circus sponsored by the Salvation Army. Unfortunately, the performing elephants left behind more than just memories, and the manure odor caused at least one Chicago player to get sick on the field. ..

The Bizarre History of the NFL’s First Title Game
   13. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 18, 2019 at 12:34 PM (#5880391)
Per this pic of the Bears at Wrigley - you can see that the endzone looks like it stops pretty much right where the wall starts.
Huh. So it looks like the entire RF bleachers section at Wrigley used to be movable? That’s strange. But you would be able to see the regular bleachers in the photo if they had just installed temporary seating in RF.
   14. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 18, 2019 at 12:51 PM (#5880402)
This article has an diagram showing that the Bears and NU used different orientations for the field when they played at Wrigley. But it doesn't explain why it changed.
   15. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 18, 2019 at 01:55 PM (#5880432)
I've attended three bowl games in my life. Two were with my high school marching band: the 1997 Carquest Bowl and the 1998 Gator Bowl. But the only one I've attended as a fan was the 2011 Pinstripe Bowl, where Rutgers hammered Iowa State. Yankee Stadium was actually a surprisingly decent venue for football, although most football fans disagree with me. I'm now sold on football at baseball stadiums.
   16. Nasty Nate Posted: September 18, 2019 at 02:00 PM (#5880433)
This article has an diagram showing that the Bears and NU used different orientations for the field when they played at Wrigley. But it doesn't explain why it changed.
I'd guess that they added a few more rows of seats in the front in between home and first.
   17. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 18, 2019 at 02:11 PM (#5880439)
But the only one I've attended as a fan was the 2011 Pinstripe Bowl, where Rutgers hammered Iowa State. Yankee Stadium was actually a surprisingly decent venue for football, although most football fans disagree with me. I'm now sold on football at baseball stadiums.


I was at the Pinstripe Bowl where Northwestern destroyed Pitt, and thought Yankee Stadium worked pretty well. They had the field oriented differently from Wrigley, with one end zone at home plate and one in centerfield.
   18. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 18, 2019 at 04:44 PM (#5880525)
If they don't name it the Chowdah Bowl, what's the point.
   19. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 18, 2019 at 04:53 PM (#5880530)

This joins the Pinstripe Bowl and the Cheez-It Bowl (played at Chase Field) as the only bowl games played in baseball stadiums. I wrote this comment so that I could type "Cheez-It Bowl".


Other current MLB stadiums that have hosted bowl games:

Angel Stadium (then Anaheim Stadium) - Freedom Bowl 1984-1994
Rogers Centre - International Bowl 2007-2010
Tropicana Field - St. Petersburg/Beef O Brady's/Gasparilla Bowl 2008-2017
Oracle (then AT&T) Park - San Francisco/Emerald/Fight Hunger Bowl 2002-2013
T-Mobil Park (then Safeco Field) - Seattle Bowl 2001

Any others?
   20. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 18, 2019 at 04:59 PM (#5880533)
Yankee Stadium was actually a surprisingly decent venue for football, although most football fans disagree with me. I'm now sold on football at baseball stadiums.

The original Yankee Stadium could hold up to and over 80,000 fans, and was much better configured for football than its mini-sized successor. The Giants hosted 3 NFL championship games there between 1956 and 1962, and from 1925 through the 1946 the biggest "national" college football game (Army-Notre Dame) was staged there every year with a single exception. You might even say that in one way the visitor's clubhouse of Yankee Stadium was the birthplace of Ronald Reagan's political career.

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