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Newark Star-Ledger: ‘New Era Pinstripe Bowl’ to be held Dec. 30 at Yankee Stadium

The bowl will match the third-place Big East team with the sixth-place Big 12 team, after the BCS teams from each conference are excluded from consideration. Both teams will stay in Manhattan, the Big East team at the Grand Hyatt and the Big 12 team at the Sheraton New York.

There’s no truth to the rumors that Rutgers has already been invited to the first six Pinstripe Bowls.

Tim Stauffer, Trot Nixon's Coming (Dan Lee) Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:18 PM | 37 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. Mike Webber Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:26 PM (#3475623)

Rutgers will be in the Big 10 by the time the first game is played.

2. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot

Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:30 PM (#3475626)

'New Era Pinstripe Bowl'

These 21st century bowl game names are really becoming a race to the bottom.

3. SoSH U at work Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:32 PM (#3475629)

The bowl will match the third-place Big East team with the sixth-place Big 12 team, after the BCS teams from each conference are excluded from consideration.

So does that mean it matches the fourth-place (or, possibly fifth-place) Big East team with the seventh-place (possibly eighth-place) Big 12 team?

4. Tim Stauffer, Trot Nixon's Coming (Dan Lee) Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:36 PM (#3475633)

Exactly, SoSH. And if one of the big conferences doesn't have enough bowl-eligible teams, you'll probably end up with the fourth-place team from the MAC or Conference USA.

If the Big East does their bowl assignments like most (all?) other conferences, they aren't locked into the fourth place finisher. It just means they get fourth choice.

5. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:37 PM (#3475635)

The bowl will match the third-place Big East team with the sixth-place Big 12 team, after the BCS teams from each conference are excluded from consideration.

So does that mean it matches the fourth-place (or, possibly fifth-place) Big East team with the seventh-place (possibly eighth-place) Big 12 team?

Wow. There's a matchup to make you drool.

So what are looking at? Baylor v. UCONN? Whoopee... [/snark]

6. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:40 PM (#3475639)

7. Tim Stauffer, Trot Nixon's Coming (Dan Lee) Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:46 PM (#3475649)

I think the idea is that if they get Rutgers or UConn with any kind of regularity, they'll be able to draw enough of a local crowd to make it worth their while. If they get South Florida-Baylor, they're screwed.

It's a strategy that's worked for the bowl games in Boise and Detroit, anyway. (Although Detroit admittedly has a dome.)

8. Cowboy Popup Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:46 PM (#3475650)

Baylor v. UCONN?

Baylor and UConn played two pretty good games in 2008 and 2009. I will always watch UConn play and as long as Robert Griffin is healthy, Baylor is worth watching as well.

Heck, any BCS vs. BCS matchup with .500 or better teams is something I will watch at this point. Last year was such a suck fest when it came to OOC scheduling. I am looking forward to much higher number of big time cross conference matchups this year.

And of course, this is good for the Big East because it adds another BCS bowl opponent. No more playing the #3 MAC team or whatever the International Bowl was.

9. Crispix Attacks Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:49 PM (#3475654)

These 21st century bowl game names are really becoming a race to the bottom.

Nah, it's been pretty much the same for 20 years. The Poulan Weed-eater Independence Bowl ran from 1990 to 1996.

10. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:55 PM (#3475663)

Nah, it's been pretty much the same for 20 years. The Poulan Weed-eater Independence Bowl ran from 1990 to 1996.

And let's not forget the Bluebonnet Bowl, the Aviation Bowl, the Aluminum Bowl, the Refrigerator Bowl, the Bean Bowl, the Salad Bowl, and the Vulcan Bowl with I would assume matched Sargon Tech against Pan Mokar State.

11. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:56 PM (#3475665)

Seriously,. I am a regular on the Scarlet Nation board and this is a GOOD thing for Rutgers. So many of their bowl matchups have been against non BCS teams. A Rutgers vs. Colorado or a Rutgers vs. Texas A&M;at Yankee Stadium would be a perfectly fine bowl for them in a 7-5 or 8-4 type year. Christ, this year they played Central Florida in Tropicana Field.

12. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:58 PM (#3475668)

Also, for people who don't know CFB, the Big East has unbelievably shitty bowl tie ins. The most important thing for most teams is that it's a BCS opponent on a decent date. Between Xmas and New Years against a Big 12 team and low travel costs for most Big East teams, combined with a good payout, make this an attractive bowl game. For God's sake, the third place team this year played Northern Illinois in Toronto!

13. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 09, 2010 at 04:59 PM (#3475670)

Or what Cowboy Popup said.

14. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot

Posted: March 09, 2010 at 05:09 PM (#3475680)

Nah, it's been pretty much the same for 20 years. The Poulan Weed-eater Independence Bowl ran from 1990 to 1996.

And let's not forget the Bluebonnet Bowl, the Aviation Bowl, the Aluminum Bowl, the Refrigerator Bowl, the Bean Bowl, the Salad Bowl, and the Vulcan Bowl with I would assume matched Sargon Tech against Pan Mokar State.

Yeah, but at least those earlier bowl games weren't cluttered up with the specific sponsor's name. There were some weird bowl games in the late 40's that died off (Cigar, Oleander, Burley, Bean, Iodine, Texahoma, etc.), but when you combine a sponsor's name with a connection that is associated with a baseball team, you're really digging yourself into a bottomless pit.

15. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: March 09, 2010 at 05:10 PM (#3475681)

They'd have to be giving out gold bars wrapped in hundred dollar bills for me to sit out in the Bronx in December

16. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 09, 2010 at 05:11 PM (#3475683)

New Era Pinstripe Bowl is a lot better than some. Most Bowls now don't even have the thematic nickname, just the sponsor's name. The Capital One Citrus Bowl is now just the Capital One Bowl. Next year the St. Pete's Bowl will be the Beef O'Brady's Bowl. Meineke Car Care Bowl, Champs Sports Bowl, etc.

You can at least call this one the Pinstripe Bowl in casual conversation. I preferred Yankee Bowl though: a nod to the fact that some cornhusking or ####-kicking Big 12 team will have to come to the Northeast, where they almost never play.

17. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 09, 2010 at 05:13 PM (#3475684)

They'd have to be giving out gold bars wrapped in hundred dollar bills for me to sit out in the Bronx in December

What if you were a fan of the team? I assume you'd sit in Giants Stadium to watch pro football in December: tens of thousands of people do it happily.

With a football configuration, this game will probably have a capacity of about 35-40k or so. They should have no problem filling the seats with Rutgers/UConn fans plus a typical Big 12 traveling contingent of 10k or so.

18. SoSH U at work Posted: March 09, 2010 at 05:15 PM (#3475687)

And let's not forget the Bluebonnet Bowl,

I loved the Bluebonnet Bowl. New Year's Eve in the Astrodome. Purdue and Mark Herrman knocking off Tennessee and Jimmy Streater on a last-minute score as the minutes ticked away on the 1970s. Great stuff.

And no, I'm not kidding.

19. Cowboy Popup Posted: March 09, 2010 at 05:15 PM (#3475688)

They'd have to be giving out gold bars wrapped in hundred dollar bills for me to sit out in the Bronx in December

I would love to go if it were snowing. Otherwise, probably not, but I'd still consider going.

20. I Left Tim Raines Down In Africa Posted: March 09, 2010 at 05:17 PM (#3475692)

Why, depending on the Big 12 team that came in, they may have a bigger payroll than the Yankees!

(Sorry, had to.)

21. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: March 09, 2010 at 05:24 PM (#3475696)

Why, depending on the Big 12 team that came in, they may have a bigger payroll than the Yankees!

That would have been a better joke if you'd said SEC. They don't even try to hide it down there.

22. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 09, 2010 at 05:43 PM (#3475712)

I loved the Bluebonnet Bowl. New Year's Eve in the Astrodome. Purdue and Mark Herrman knocking off Tennessee and Jimmy Streater on a last-minute score as the minutes ticked away on the 1970s. Great stuff.

technically, it was the Astro-Bluebonnet bowl by then

23. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 09, 2010 at 06:01 PM (#3475734)

thiswas the first attempt at a bowl in a cold-weather city

24. Bob Dernier Cri

Posted: March 09, 2010 at 06:23 PM (#3475761)

I knew Michigan State football had hit hard times when one year we went to the St. Jude Bowl and lost. Talk about lost causes ...

25. Greg Goosen at 30 Posted: March 09, 2010 at 06:48 PM (#3475787)

Sure to be a worthy successor to the Gotham Bowl.

26. Gamingboy Posted: March 09, 2010 at 07:05 PM (#3475810)

Gotham Bowl.

Best. Bowl name. Ever.

27. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: March 09, 2010 at 07:11 PM (#3475819)

Best. Bowl name. Ever.

I prefer the Poulan Weedeater Bowl.

28. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: March 09, 2010 at 07:20 PM (#3475831)

What if you were a fan of the team? I assume you'd sit in Giants Stadium to watch pro football in December: tens of thousands of people do it happily.

I most certainly would not. I really, really dislike being cold, so the thought of volunteering to spend all this time being cold just to watch football--a sport I'm not that big on--is pretty unappealing.

By the way Shooty, we're getting together at Tonic tomorrow night 6:30-7, you should stop by if you can.

29. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: March 09, 2010 at 07:26 PM (#3475834)

By the way Shooty, we're getting together at Tonic tomorrow night 6:30-7, you should stop by if you can.

Duly noted. A very good chance I'll stop by.

30. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: March 09, 2010 at 07:30 PM (#3475842)

...let's not forget the Bluebonnet Bowl, the Aviation Bowl, the Aluminum Bowl, the Refrigerator Bowl, the Bean Bowl...

I've always wondered why American Standard or Kohler never sponsored a Bowl Game.

31. Walt Davis Posted: March 09, 2010 at 07:34 PM (#3475845)

I love New York. I love the Bronx. I don't know if spending December 30th there is what players and fans are thinking of when they find out they'll be playing in a bowl. Good chance it'll be 37 degrees and sleeting.

Assuming it comes with New Years eve in NYC, I don't think the players will complain too much. If they're flying back home on the 31st, then, yeah, that pretty much sucks.

And, what, you'll stand outside for hours on Dec 31 to watch a ball drop but you won't sit outside for hours on Dec 30 to watch a clash of two major college football titans?

32. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: March 09, 2010 at 07:36 PM (#3475849)

And, what, you'll stand outside for hours on Dec 31 to watch a ball drop but you won't sit outside for hours on Dec 30 to watch a clash of two major college football titans?

I would not stand outside to watch the ball drop. That's for tourists and B & T teenagers.

33. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: March 09, 2010 at 07:53 PM (#3475868)

I would not stand outside to watch the ball drop. That's for tourists and B & T teenagers.

This

34. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 09, 2010 at 10:09 PM (#3476002)

I would say unless Rutgers win the Big East and goes to a BCS (certainly possible) there is ZERO chance they are not in this bowl next year. As someone above said, standings have nothing to do with it. Conferences and Bowl Selection committees routinely hash these things out to produce desirable geographic results or attractive match-ups. If Rutgers wins the conferences, UConn will be in this bowl.

35. SoSH U at work Posted: March 09, 2010 at 10:15 PM (#3476007)

I would not stand outside to watch the ball drop. That's for tourists and B & T teenagers.

We did that once, just by chance when we found ourselves near Times Square on New Years near midnight. WOOOOOOOOOO. Then, at roughly 12:00.30, you realize you're standing, jammed between thousands of idiots in the middle of the ####### street.

36. Kurt Posted: March 09, 2010 at 11:13 PM (#3476054)

The Poulan Weed-eater Independence Bowl ran from 1990 to 1996.

In addition to being the Poulan Weed-eater Independence Bowl, wasn't is held in Shreveport? Good God. My brother went one year; it's the type of thing that makes me happy to have attended a D3 school where students wouldn't walk across the street to watch a football game.

37. Pirate Joe Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:19 AM (#3476195)

Also, for people who don't know CFB, the Big East has unbelievably shitty bowl tie ins. The most important thing for most teams is that it's a BCS opponent on a decent date. Between Xmas and New Years against a Big 12 team and low travel costs for most Big East teams, combined with a good payout, make this an attractive bowl game. For God's sake, the third place team this year played Northern Illinois in Toronto!

That's not really true (not the shitty bowl comment, that is true). The two teams that tied for second played in Jacksonville and Charlotte. Of the three teams that tied for fourth the least "desirable" played in Toronto. South Florida was the equivalent of the sixth place team (in an eight team league), not the third place team.

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