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Tuesday, December 18, 2012

Newly acquired NY Mets pitcher Noah Syndergaard tweets anti-gay slur

An anti-gay slur was recently tweeted, and subsequently deleted, from a Twitter account belonging to one of the prospects the Mets acquired from Toronto for R.A. Dickey.

Righthanded pitcher Noah Syndergaard, 20, acquired along with catcher Travis d’Arnaud in the deal that sent the Cy Young Award winner to the Blue Jays, tweets from the account @Noahsyndergaard.

On Dec. 9, this tweet appeared from that account: “@DMarze89 nice crocs f—lol”

The tweet no longer appears on the timeline for the account.

A Mets spokesman said that the team was looking into the matter. The full context of the tweet was not immediately clear; Syndergaard might be available on a conference call introducing him and d’Arnaud on Tuesday.

Thanks to Ben.

Repoz Posted: December 18, 2012 at 01:50 PM | 101 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. baerga1 Posted: December 18, 2012 at 01:54 PM (#4327717)
nice tweet retard lol
   2. asinwreck Posted: December 18, 2012 at 01:57 PM (#4327718)
Well at least the Mets won't have the laughable problem of R.A. Dickey ruining their public relations anymore. I look forward to the Post's coverage of Syndergaard's arrival.
   3. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: December 18, 2012 at 01:59 PM (#4327721)
Meet the Mets...

Hilarious. On his first day as a Met, too!
   4. Esoteric Posted: December 18, 2012 at 01:59 PM (#4327722)
*sigh*

Look, this is a dumb thing to say. It's also how a lot of young men talk to one another. It's classless and particularly stupid for someone in the public eye like him to do, but is this now going to be the Next Big Controversy?
   5. NJ in DC (Now with temporary employment!) Posted: December 18, 2012 at 01:59 PM (#4327723)
The full context of the tweet was not immediately clear

Not sure if serious.
   6. SoSH U at work Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:00 PM (#4327724)
but is this now going to be the Next Big Controversy?


No.
   7. BDC Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:02 PM (#4327726)
Oh, I see, he spelled out that three-letter word. I was wondering how on earth "crocs" had become a slur.
   8. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:02 PM (#4327727)
Dickey must have hacked into his Twitter account. That's the only explanation.
   9. BDC Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:03 PM (#4327728)
I mean, aside from the insult value of publicizing that somebody wears crocs.
   10. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:04 PM (#4327730)
Look, this is a dumb thing to say. It's also how a lot of young men talk to one another. It's classless and particularly stupid for someone in the public eye like him to do, but is this now going to be the Next Big Controversy?

Naw, we're just funning. Relax!
   11. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:05 PM (#4327731)
No self respecting gay man would be caught wearing crocs. What does he think this is, 2005?
   12. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:06 PM (#4327733)
No self respecting gay man would be caught wearing crocs. What does he think this is, 2005?

It's true that I have never seen Tom Cruise wearing crocs.
   13. Rants Mulliniks Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:08 PM (#4327735)
Mario Batali wears hazmat orange Crocs, and he could be gay, but I don't know.
   14. John Northey Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:12 PM (#4327739)
Bet the Jays are glad this came after he was traded. After the Escobar eye-black issue last year the last thing they want to deal with is more players writing anti-gay slurs.
   15. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:13 PM (#4327740)
How do we know this isn't a pro-gay exhortation?
   16. formerly dp Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:14 PM (#4327743)
Dickey must have hacked into his Twitter account. That's the only explanation.
Alternatively, it could have been Yunel Escobar.
Look, this is a dumb thing to say. It's also how a lot of young men talk to one another. It's classless and particularly stupid for someone in the public eye like him to do,
I agree. It's my understanding that at this point, minor leaguers are regularly coached on how not use/not use social media. Maybe the lesson just didn't stick in this case.

   17. RJ in TO Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:24 PM (#4327758)
Bet the Jays are glad this came after he was traded. After the Escobar eye-black issue last year the last thing they want to deal with is more players writing anti-gay slurs.

Some idiot minor leaguer doing this would normally draw a lot less attention than what Escobar did, but I'm sure you're right that they're very relieved this didn't hit the press until after he was no longer their problem.
   18. thetailor Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:28 PM (#4327761)
How do we know this isn't a pro-gay exhortation?

Dickey must have hacked into his Twitter account. That's the only explanation.

Good job, guys. It's the Mets, so I guess we need to have our jokes ready.
   19. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:29 PM (#4327763)
He should have his children taken away. And adopted by a gay couple.
   20. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:33 PM (#4327772)
I think Syndergaard deserves scorn for the comment but it doesn't make him a horrible person in my mind either. I think it's good that comments like this are roundly criticized, we shouldn't take jokes at the expense of any group lightly. I think criticizing the comment is a good thing.
   21. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:34 PM (#4327773)
Wow. Just googled around and refreshed my memory on John Rocker. I had forgotten exactly how much of a piece o'#### that guy was.
   22. Voros McCracken of Pinkus Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:38 PM (#4327780)
Probably my favorite Kids in the Hall sketch. Running free...
   23. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:40 PM (#4327782)
Probably my favorite Kids in the Hall sketch. Running free...


It's the only word in the first KITH sketch I ever saw.
   24. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:53 PM (#4327795)
I think Syndergaard deserves scorn for the comment but it doesn't make him a horrible person in my mind either. I think it's good that comments like this are roundly criticized, we shouldn't take jokes at the expense of any group lightly. I think criticizing the comment is a good thing.
Yup. Twenty years ago, forty years ago, sixty years ago "the way a lot of young men talk to each other" or "the way a lot of young men x" could have been used to defend innumerable practices we're happy have been gradually dying out. That gradual dying out process is helped along by responses like this. Hey jackass, don't be a jackass.
   25. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 18, 2012 at 02:53 PM (#4327799)
The kid's immediate response upon being informed of the trade was probably "Huhhuhhuh. Dickey. Huhhuhhuh."
   26. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: December 18, 2012 at 03:15 PM (#4327830)
An anti-gay slur was recently tweeted, and subsequently deleted, from a Twitter account belonging to one of the prospects the Mets acquired from Toronto for R.A. Dickey.


Of course it was.

Even so, nice thread y'all. 8 was simple genius, 19 rang a nice variation on a moldy theme, and Jose set exactly the right tone with,

I think Syndergaard deserves scorn for the comment but it doesn't make him a horrible person in my mind either. I think it's good that comments like this are roundly criticized, we shouldn't take jokes at the expense of any group lightly. I think criticizing the comment is a good thing.


Still, it feels like shooty's just mailing it in. What's up with that?
   27. BDC Posted: December 18, 2012 at 03:18 PM (#4327837)
Hey jackass, don't be a jackass

Exactly. He's 20 years old and should start learning now. It's not excusable, but it's a "teachable moment"; he'll learn. As opposed, say, to 37-year-old media-savvy John Smoltz saying considerably worse.
   28. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: December 18, 2012 at 03:19 PM (#4327840)
Still, it feels like shooty's just mailing it in. What's up with that?

I'm a bit confused? Am I supposed to be angrier? Or was my Mets snark lacking? Honestly, the Mets have worn me out as a subject of snark. I'm like Dustin Hoffman after the 5th Indian girl when it comes to Mets snark.
   29. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 18, 2012 at 03:25 PM (#4327846)
Mario Batali wears hazmat orange Crocs, and he could be gay, but I don't know.


He does have a woman's haircut.
   30. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 18, 2012 at 03:31 PM (#4327854)

He does have a woman's haircut.


Not unless the woman has a pretty bad case of alopecia.
   31. Dale Sams Posted: December 18, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4327882)
<----wearing crocs as we speak.


...with shoelaces no less.
   32. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: December 18, 2012 at 04:16 PM (#4327911)
31. Dale Sams Posted: December 18, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4327882)
<----wearing crocs as we speak.


...with shoelaces no less.


Don't shoelaces sort of defeat the purpose of the crocs?
   33. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: December 18, 2012 at 04:24 PM (#4327919)
Don't shoelaces sort of defeat the purpose of the crocs?

It's for people who want to wear regular shoes but still have incredibly smelly feet?
   34. depletion Posted: December 18, 2012 at 04:45 PM (#4327942)
Well that didn't take long, did it? Sunderban gets the Jason Isringhausen Award for offensive remark by a Mets pitching prospect.
   35. Bob Tufts Posted: December 18, 2012 at 05:18 PM (#4327958)
Dustin Hoffman after the 5th Indian


Some days the magic works.....
   36. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: December 18, 2012 at 05:19 PM (#4327961)
<----wearing crocs as we speak.


Are you going to kill yourself now, or do you want us to handle it?
   37. Lassus Posted: December 18, 2012 at 06:00 PM (#4327999)
A dipshit being a dipshit. I'm with Esoteric, until he keeps dipshitting, I'm ready to move on.
   38. bookbook Posted: December 18, 2012 at 06:01 PM (#4328001)
Yup. It was a stupid thing to say, and a good teachable moment to tell him (and everyone else) that it's simply not acceptable--without any penalties necessary in this case.

On the other hand, a league that features the Cleveland Indians and Atlanta Braves (with the oh-so-classy tomahawk chop as a cheer, no less),...

Physician, heal thyself?
   39. BDC Posted: December 18, 2012 at 06:13 PM (#4328014)
the Cleveland Indians and Atlanta Braves

Have we had a "rename-these-franchises" thread?

Spiders is obvious. Crackers won't fly … I nominate "Peaches."
   40. zonk Posted: December 18, 2012 at 06:26 PM (#4328029)
Too bad Ted Turner doesn't own the Braves anymore, or the Braves could be the Atlanta TooFunny... or does he no longer own TBS anymore, either?

/Andy Messersmith
   41. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: December 18, 2012 at 06:29 PM (#4328033)
If Ted Turner still owned the Braves there would be a reasonable chance that he'd rename them "the Atlanta Ted Turners".
   42. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: December 18, 2012 at 06:35 PM (#4328043)
It's true that I have never seen Tom Cruise wearing crocs.

You have evidence that he respects himself?
   43. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: December 18, 2012 at 06:43 PM (#4328052)
I nominate "Peaches."


Neckstabbers.
   44. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: December 18, 2012 at 06:46 PM (#4328056)
I told you guys nobody named "Noah Syndergaard" was going to be a good major leaguer. And I'm not so crazy about "Chase d'Arnaud" either. What happened to salt-of-the-earth All-American names, like "Howard Johnson" and "Mark Clark" and "Joe Orsulak".
   45. Anonymous Observer Posted: December 18, 2012 at 06:57 PM (#4328062)
What happened to salt-of-the-earth All-American names, like "Howard Johnson" and "Mark Clark" and "Joe Orsulak".


And Mike Crudale.
   46. DJS and the Infinite Sadness Posted: December 18, 2012 at 07:06 PM (#4328065)
I told you guys nobody named "Noah Syndergaard" was going to be a good major leaguer.

The paradigm has been broken. A guy who *wants* to be called Coco Crisp has like 5000 plate appearances. A dude named Paul Goldschmidt had an .850 OPS. Fausto Carmona became Roberto Hernandez and will suck even more now, I bet.
   47. LargeBill Posted: December 18, 2012 at 07:21 PM (#4328076)
On behalf of those of us who couldn't care less, could we get a complete list of words that have magically become forbidden? I made sense to stop using the N word. However, since we succeeded in getting rid of that word (never mind its resurgence among idiot rappers and their idiot fans) other groups have jumped in saying "Hey, that word hurts my feelings. No one should ever say it again and if someone does all of society should act shocked. Where does it end? Just last a moron congressman was forced to apologize for using the word midget and a radio announcer referred to it as the "M" word out of fear of making same mistake as the congressman. At some point, we should just tell the next aggrieved group to "lighten up, Francis."
   48. Bug Selig Posted: December 18, 2012 at 07:27 PM (#4328081)
And I'm not so crazy about "Chase d'Arnaud" either.


How about Travis D'Arnaud?
   49. Bowling Baseball Fan Posted: December 18, 2012 at 07:28 PM (#4328082)
45 wins.
   50. Bug Selig Posted: December 18, 2012 at 07:28 PM (#4328083)
On behalf of those of us who couldn't care less, could we get a complete list of words that have magically become forbidden? I made sense to stop using the N word. However, since we succeeded in getting rid of that word (never mind its resurgence among idiot rappers and their idiot fans) other groups have jumped in saying "Hey, that word hurts my feelings. No one should ever say it again and if someone does all of society should act shocked. Where does it end? Just last a moron congressman was forced to apologize for using the word midget and a radio announcer referred to it as the "M" word out of fear of making same mistake as the congressman. At some point, we should just tell the next aggrieved group to "lighten up, Francis."


"Idiot" and "moron" come to mind:-)
   51. cmd600 Posted: December 18, 2012 at 07:37 PM (#4328087)
On behalf of those of us who couldn't care less, could we get a complete list of words that have magically become forbidden? I made sense to stop using the N word. However, since we succeeded in getting rid of that word (never mind its resurgence among idiot rappers and their idiot fans) other groups have jumped in saying "Hey, that word hurts my feelings. No one should ever say it again and if someone does all of society should act shocked. Where does it end? Just last a moron congressman was forced to apologize for using the word midget and a radio announcer referred to it as the "M" word out of fear of making same mistake as the congressman. At some point, we should just tell the next aggrieved group to "lighten up, Francis."


Well a pretty easy place to start would be with any terms that demonstrate hatred toward a group of people based on things like race, religion, or sexual orientation. That would seem to pretty clearly cover our case here.

As to terms like "midget", if a group wants to be called something else, I don't see why we can't placate them in the vast majority of cases. How would you feel if we came up with a term for people who put zero thought into caring for their fellow man that you didn't happen to like?
   52. beer on a stick Posted: December 18, 2012 at 07:47 PM (#4328089)
I used to have a Chinese White gander I named Retardo Montalban. Does this make me a bad person?
   53. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: December 18, 2012 at 08:15 PM (#4328102)

ust last a moron congressman was forced to apologize for using the word midget

Forced...at gunpoint?
   54. Jim Kaat on a hot Gene Roof Posted: December 18, 2012 at 08:38 PM (#4328112)
I used to have a Chinese White gander I named Retardo Montalban.


*GASP*
   55. Esoteric Posted: December 18, 2012 at 08:45 PM (#4328116)
Well a pretty easy place to start would be with any terms that demonstrate hatred toward a group of people based on things like race, religion, or sexual orientation.
Well, unless they're white, male, Christian, or heterosexual. I mean, let's not get carried away here.

But yes, generally speaking I have contempt for people who sling epithets based on your listed criteria.
   56. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: December 18, 2012 at 08:54 PM (#4328119)
On behalf of those of us who couldn't care less, could we get a complete list of words that have magically become forbidden?

Buy this 383 page book and enjoy the ride. It's got everything from a "Portagee lawnmower"** to "Moustache Pete"***. You can insult every nationality in scores of different languages, and at only $1.18 even a "Brooklyn Indian" can afford it.

**a goat used by Portuguese immigrants to cut the grass

***an early 20th century Italian immigrant

   57. Lassus Posted: December 18, 2012 at 09:01 PM (#4328122)
I'm happy to see that in response to reasoned, laidback lack of judgment in the thread there's been "OMG I why do I have to think about other people" and reverse racism cracks.

   58. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: December 18, 2012 at 09:08 PM (#4328125)
I'm happy to see that in response to reasoned, laidback lack of judgment in the thread there's been "OMG I why do I have to think about other people" and reverse racism cracks.


Spoken like a damn, dirty Norwegian.
   59. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: December 18, 2012 at 09:21 PM (#4328136)
?
Buy this 383 page book and enjoy the ride


Or, you could just watch this.
   60. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 18, 2012 at 09:29 PM (#4328144)
Well a pretty easy place to start would be with any terms that demonstrate hatred toward a group of people based on things like race, religion, or sexual orientation.

Well, unless they're white, male, Christian, or heterosexual. I mean, let's not get carried away here.


Great, finally the media can give the Papists and their Jesus-freak brethren the open contempt they deserve.
   61. OCD SS Posted: December 18, 2012 at 09:52 PM (#4328150)
Great, finally the media can give the Papists and their Jesus-freak brethren the open contempt they deserve.


I believe you mean the Papists and their Jesus-freak breeding brethren."
   62. Dr. Chaleeko Posted: December 18, 2012 at 10:27 PM (#4328171)
Or just the the Papists and Brethren. [PA tiny-sect shout out!...now how do I work the Schwenkfelders in here?]
   63. JE (Jason) Posted: December 18, 2012 at 11:06 PM (#4328191)
Ray: A lot of midgets tend to kill themselves. A disproportionate amount, actually. Hervé Villechaize off of Fantasy Island. I think somebody from the Time Bandits did. I suppose they must get really sad about like... being really little and that... people looking at them, laughing at them, calling them names. You know, "short arse". There's another famous midget. I miss him but I can't remember. It's not the R2D2 man; no, he's still going. I hope your midget doesn't kill himself. Your dream sequence will be ######.

Chloë: He doesn't like being called a midget. He prefers dwarf.

Ray: This is exactly my point! People going around calling you a midget when you want to be called a dwarf. Of course you're going to blow your head off.
   64. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 18, 2012 at 11:32 PM (#4328212)
#22/23 - F-A-G-G-O! Remove that offensive "T"!
   65. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 18, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4328215)
   66. Knock on any Iorg Posted: December 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM (#4328403)
Ideally we should allow, without comment nor scorn, such people to air their thoughts, the better to know who is a dip?hit and who is not.
   67. donlock Posted: December 19, 2012 at 10:54 AM (#4328422)
Dustin Hoffman after the 5th Indian


Help?
   68. Random Transaction Generator Posted: December 19, 2012 at 11:12 AM (#4328439)
Ideally we should allow, without comment nor scorn, such people to air their thoughts, the better to know who is a dip?hit and who is not.

That's what Twitter is for. Idiots self-immolate in the most public forum available, when before they kept their stupid sh!t to themselves or their close friends.
   69. Nasty Nate Posted: December 19, 2012 at 11:57 AM (#4328490)
I can understand someone not thinking that 'dwarf' was an acceptable term. If you were trying to figure it out beforehand to be sensitive, it would make sense to predict that 'dwarf' might be insulting, as it sounds dehumanizing. If you didn't know better, 'midget' sounds more technical and PC, while 'dwarf' sounds all lord-of-the-ringsish.
   70. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 19, 2012 at 01:59 PM (#4328632)
The fact that "little people" is an acceptable and/or preferred term really seems odd to me. I get that it doesn't apparently have the history of derogatory usage that "midget" does, but on its face, it just seems patronizing. Not my call to make, though.
   71. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: December 19, 2012 at 02:50 PM (#4328709)
If you didn't know better, 'midget' sounds more technical and PC, while 'dwarf' sounds all lord-of-the-ringsish.


off the top of my head I thought midget would be more insulting...

   72. zonk Posted: December 19, 2012 at 02:50 PM (#4328711)
I generally defer to Life's Too Short on such matters... I love that show.
   73. just plain joe Posted: December 19, 2012 at 03:56 PM (#4328811)
Noah Syndergaard sounds like one of those names that OOTP invents in a fictional league.
   74. zonk Posted: December 19, 2012 at 04:22 PM (#4328827)
Noah Syndergaard sounds like one of those names that OOTP invents in a fictional league.


...and doubtless, a Norwegian discovered by your international scout playing in Aruba...
   75. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: December 19, 2012 at 04:24 PM (#4328828)
Santa calls them elves, and that's good enough for me.
   76. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: December 19, 2012 at 05:48 PM (#4328910)
The fact that "little people" is an acceptable and/or preferred term really seems odd to me. I get that it doesn't apparently have the history of derogatory usage that "midget" does, but on its face, it just seems patronizing. Not my call to make, though.

Can't we just stick with "Asians"?
   77. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: December 19, 2012 at 07:00 PM (#4328983)
Well a pretty easy place to start would be with any terms that demonstrate hatred toward a group of people based on things like race, religion, or sexual orientation. That would seem to pretty clearly cover our case here.

Can we get a ruling on 'Mexicans'? I used it in casual conversation today and felt like a got a couple of looks. Not that it would stop me from using it, but it would be pretty remarkable if that term were somehow on the other side of this ridiculous line. Somehow Mexico is out of control that simply describing someone as Mexican is racist. And to be fair, the folks in my story that I labeled Mexicans could have been Guatemalan, I didn't check passports, I played the odds.
   78. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 19, 2012 at 07:09 PM (#4328991)
The fact that "little people" is an acceptable and/or preferred term really seems odd to me. I get that it doesn't apparently have the history of derogatory usage that "midget" does, but on its face, it just seems patronizing.


I believe the currently-approved term is "wee folk".

No, no, wait, it's "twerps" isn't it?
   79. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: December 19, 2012 at 07:10 PM (#4328993)
Can we get a ruling on 'Mexicans'?


Guilty of ridiculous footware.
   80. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: December 19, 2012 at 07:30 PM (#4329001)
I had no idea "Crocs" was the name of a British cigarette...
   81. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: December 19, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4329002)

And to be fair, the folks in my story that I labeled Mexicans could have been Guatemalan, I didn't check passports, I played the odds.

I think this is why you might have raised some eyebrows. Mexican as a descriptive term for people from Mexico is obviously fine. If someone makes an honest mistake it's not a big deal.
   82. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: December 19, 2012 at 08:06 PM (#4329018)
And to be fair, the folks in my story that I labeled Mexicans could have been Guatemalan, I didn't check passports, I played the odds.
Do you not see how your inability to distinguish Mexicans from Guatemalans might not be an issue?
   83. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: December 19, 2012 at 08:12 PM (#4329021)
The Office already covered all this.

Michael: Um, let me ask you, is there a term besides Mexican that you prefer? Something less offensive?
Oscar: Mexican isn't offensive.
Michael: Well, it has certain connotations.
   84. just plain joe Posted: December 19, 2012 at 09:22 PM (#4329050)
And to be fair, the folks in my story that I labeled Mexicans could have been Guatemalan, I didn't check passports, I played the odds.


My wife tends to refer to all brown-skinned Hispanics as "Mexicans"; she doesn't check passports either. Her father was the same way, so it must be a family thing.
   85. madvillain Posted: December 19, 2012 at 09:33 PM (#4329053)
Noah? Nice name fag lol
   86. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: December 19, 2012 at 10:08 PM (#4329066)
And to be fair, the folks in my story that I labeled Mexicans could have been Guatemalan, I didn't check passports, I played the odds.


In the future you could go with "people."

If you didn't know if they were Mexican or Guatemalan or something else then it probably wasn't important to the story.
   87. bookbook Posted: December 19, 2012 at 11:02 PM (#4329085)
I'm betting there was some other aspect to the story, perhaps derogatory comments about the "Mexicans" that caused the raised eyebrows?
   88. NattyBoh Posted: December 19, 2012 at 11:15 PM (#4329088)
He'd be a twittering fool if he went down to the Village on Halloween. He could point to all the tall buildings on the way there.
   89. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: December 19, 2012 at 11:55 PM (#4329107)
Dustin Hoffman after the 5th Indian

Help?

From the movie of "Little Big Man," I assume: the Hoffman character's wife asks him very nicely if he will have sex with her three widowed sisters so that they might bear children; he accomplishes the feat in one long night.
   90. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: December 20, 2012 at 01:07 AM (#4329143)
Work, work, work.

Or, maybe that should read,

Work, work, work, work.
   91. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: December 20, 2012 at 01:33 AM (#4329159)
The fact that "little people" is an acceptable and/or preferred term really seems odd to me. I get that it doesn't apparently have the history of derogatory usage that "midget" does, but on its face, it just seems patronizing. Not my call to make, though.


The word "midget" is considered insulting these days, I think, because it was formerly used as a reference to little people with so-called normal proportions. The word "dwarf" was generally used for those with relatively short or otherwise misshapen limbs, while "midget" was reserved for people who looked more like miniature versions of typical taller folk. Distinguishing (very unscientifically) between two types of little people in an attempt to subtly declare one group as better seems to be what led to the disfavor.
   92. Jim Kaat on a hot Gene Roof Posted: December 20, 2012 at 01:38 AM (#4329161)
The Office already covered all this.


For reals.

You don't call retarded people retards. It's in bad taste. You call your friends retards when they're acting retarded.

   93.   Posted: December 20, 2012 at 02:10 AM (#4329168)
I told you guys nobody named "Noah Syndergaard" was going to be a good major leaguer. And I'm not so crazy about "Chase d'Arnaud" either. What happened to salt-of-the-earth All-American names, like "Howard Johnson" and "Mark Clark" and "Joe Orsulak"


Let's not forget the Mets have also had can't miss prospects like yusmeiro petit and lastings milledge. They clearly haven't figured out how this works.
   94. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: December 20, 2012 at 02:18 AM (#4329172)
Screw that, and never mind Snydergaard. The Mets have a pitching prospect who struck out 139 in 84 innings over three levels. That's 14.8 K/9. And Sickels had him ranked 18th in the system.
   95. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 20, 2012 at 09:03 AM (#4329207)
Wait, huh? What is a faglol, and how is it offensive to call someone one?
   96. Rants Mulliniks Posted: December 20, 2012 at 09:35 AM (#4329233)
I used to have a Chinese White gander I named Retardo Montalban. Does this make me a bad person?


No, it makes you awesome.

In the future you could go with "people."


But not "you people".
   97. Bourbon Samurai in Asia Posted: December 20, 2012 at 10:47 AM (#4329276)
Or "those people"
   98. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: December 20, 2012 at 11:23 AM (#4329300)
The word "midget" is considered insulting these days, I think, because it was formerly used as a reference to little people with so-called normal proportions. The word "dwarf" was generally used for those with relatively short or otherwise misshapen limbs, while "midget" was reserved for people who looked more like miniature versions of typical taller folk.


Both terms are infinitely preferable to "David Samson," I gather.
   99. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: December 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM (#4329378)
I'm betting there was some other aspect to the story, perhaps derogatory comments about the "Mexicans" that caused the raised eyebrows?

It went like this: "The last time I was on a jury, it was for a couple of Mexican guys breaking and entering". I guess, technically, the Mexican part isn't critical, but it fills out the story. It just as easily could have been "a couple of douche-bag frat boys for public indecency". It paints a picture.

Do you not see how your inability to distinguish Mexicans from Guatemalans might not be an issue?

Not really. If I were traveling abroad and a local referred to me as 'that Canadian', I think we would move right past it. Somehow 'Mexican' has become a charged word.

Edit: Really, douche-bag with no hyphen gets nannied. This is what we've become?
   100. Nasty Nate Posted: December 20, 2012 at 01:10 PM (#4329387)
yeesh

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