Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Monday, May 26, 2008

Newsday: Best: Keith Hernandez rips ex-mate Gary Carter on air

Kid non-gracious Kid
You look so small you haven’t gone so quiet

Keith Hernandez ripped his former Mets teammate, Gary Carter, during yesterday’s game on Ch. 11, calling him “unconscious” after Carter openly campaigned for the managerial job currently occupied by Willie Randolph.

“I have great respect for Gary as a player,” said Hernandez, now a TV analyst. “He’s a Hall of Famer. When Johnny Bench left the game, he was the premier catcher in the National League.

“But that being said, and I’ve kept quiet for such a long time, but for the people out there listening, just go in the dictionary and look up ‘unconscious’ and you’ll find a picture of Gary Carter.

“I know that’s strong, but it just happens too many times and it’s just, you’re walking around unconscious.”

...Before Hernandez’s shot at Carter, play-by-play man Gary Cohen said: “Regardless of what happens, you can’t be any more indelicate or graceless than Gary Carter was in saying the things he said about being available to take over the job. I just cannot believe that Carter said what he said.”

Repoz Posted: May 26, 2008 at 01:59 PM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: announcers, history, television

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: May 26, 2008 at 02:22 PM (#2794509)
Are we sure he was talking about The Kid and not the Mets offense?
   2. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: May 26, 2008 at 02:30 PM (#2794512)
Maybe Keith should look up "unconscious" in the dictionary.
   3. Andere Richtingen Posted: May 26, 2008 at 04:11 PM (#2794545)
Maybe Keith should look up "unconscious" in the dictionary.

I was thinking that at first, but then he said:

“I know that’s strong, but it just happens too many times and it’s just, you’re walking around unconscious.”

It's an odd thing to say, but I think he actually meant it as the word is defined.
   4. CFiJ Posted: May 26, 2008 at 04:20 PM (#2794552)
I think Keith was looking for "oblivious", but when he couldn't recall it, went with it's second cousin, instead.
   5. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: May 26, 2008 at 04:27 PM (#2794557)
I thought Hernandez was going for "unconscionable."
   6. walt williams bobblehead Posted: May 26, 2008 at 04:29 PM (#2794558)
1 : not aware, as in "unconscious of having made a mistake"
   7. sweetswing Posted: May 26, 2008 at 05:09 PM (#2794570)
I think he meant "sphincter", but that already had a picture of Bench next to it.
   8. Halofan Posted: May 26, 2008 at 05:10 PM (#2794572)
And in all this, Cohen and HErnandez were being consciously delicate and not just calling Carter the scumbag that he is.
   9. Flynn Posted: May 26, 2008 at 05:25 PM (#2794577)
Jeff Pearlman's book on the Mets tends to paint Carter as a big giant phony. Say what you want about Hernandez but he tends to have a pretty strong BS meter. I have no doubt Carter grated on him as a player and what Carter said really grated on a lot of people.
   10. Freeballin' (Tales of Met Power) Posted: May 26, 2008 at 05:36 PM (#2794582)
Your mom is unconscious.
   11. Toolsy McClutch Posted: May 26, 2008 at 07:19 PM (#2794647)
He's hitting Js from all over the court? wtf?
   12. Prince Fielder In A Can Posted: May 26, 2008 at 09:32 PM (#2794700)
Say what you want about Hernandez

Cool! I've been waiting for this thread.

Hernandez is a self-indulgent prick who needs to be personally introduced to Michael Vick's dogs.
   13. Repoz Posted: May 26, 2008 at 09:45 PM (#2794705)
Hernandez is a self-indulgent prick who needs to be personally introduced to Michael Vick's dogs.

And he doesn't like Philly cheesesteaks! (although it looks otherwise)
   14. TerpNats Posted: May 26, 2008 at 11:44 PM (#2794810)
Carter has this Hillary Clinton-like tendency to say the wrong thing at just the wrong time and be completely oblivious to it.
Fixed.
   15. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: May 27, 2008 at 12:50 AM (#2794886)
Nice job, pretty boy!
   16. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: May 27, 2008 at 01:47 AM (#2794933)
Ahhh, but what is the PIE root for unconscious?
   17. Rusty Priske Posted: May 27, 2008 at 12:36 PM (#2795292)
"Tha' word... I do na thin' it means wha' you thin' it means."
   18. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: May 27, 2008 at 12:47 PM (#2795297)
I think Keith was looking for "oblivious", but when he couldn't recall it, went with it's second cousin, instead.

I don't think he means "unconscious" so much as he meant "un-conscious", as in not conscious of nuance. I think oblivious is probably too strong a word. I.e., I think Hernandez is using le mot juste.
   19. Lassus Posted: May 27, 2008 at 01:09 PM (#2795317)
I would love it if Carter's response to this was, "Ah, go snort some coke, Just-For-Men boy."

(That being said, I think Carter's being an ass. I'm just growing a little tired of Keith's righteousness in the booth, which I'm convinced has been negatively affected by Cohen.)

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Sheer Tim Foli
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

Newsblog2014 WORLD SERIES GAME 3 OMNICHATTER
(469 - 11:24pm, Oct 24)
Last: JE (Jason)

NewsblogDid Adam Dunn Ruin Baseball? – The Hardball Times
(73 - 11:22pm, Oct 24)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogJohn McGrath: The Giants have become the Yankees — obnoxious | The News Tribune
(7 - 11:16pm, Oct 24)
Last: Howie Menckel

NewsblogHow top World Series players ranked as prospects. | SportsonEarth.com : Jim Callis Article
(19 - 11:08pm, Oct 24)
Last: Chip

NewsblogBuster Olney on Twitter: "Sources: Manager Joe Maddon has exercised an opt-out clause in his contract and is leaving the Tampa Bay Rays immediately."
(77 - 11:07pm, Oct 24)
Last: HMS Moses Taylor

NewsblogOT: Politics, October 2014: Sunshine, Baseball, and Etch A Sketch: How Politicians Use Analogies
(3732 - 10:54pm, Oct 24)
Last: snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster)

NewsblogOT: Monthly NBA Thread - October 2014
(381 - 9:55pm, Oct 24)
Last: RollingWave

NewsblogCurt Schilling not hiding his scars - ESPN Boston
(17 - 8:40pm, Oct 24)
Last: DJS and the Infinite Sadness

NewsblogRoyals get four AL Gold Glove finalists, but not Lorenzo Cain | The Kansas City Star
(13 - 8:11pm, Oct 24)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogBeaneball | Gold Gloves and Coco Crisp's Terrible 2014 Defense
(2 - 7:47pm, Oct 24)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogOT: The Soccer Thread, September 2014
(915 - 7:37pm, Oct 24)
Last: CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo

NewsblogOT: NBC.news: Valve isn’t making one gaming console, but multiple ‘Steam machines’
(871 - 7:22pm, Oct 24)
Last: Jim Wisinski

NewsblogDealing or dueling – what’s a manager to do? | MGL on Baseball
(67 - 6:38pm, Oct 24)
Last: villageidiom

NewsblogThe ‘Little Things’ – The Hardball Times
(2 - 6:34pm, Oct 24)
Last: RMc is a fine piece of cheese

Newsblog9 reasons Hunter Pence is the most interesting man in the World (Series) | For The Win
(15 - 5:31pm, Oct 24)
Last: zonk

Page rendered in 0.2749 seconds
52 querie(s) executed