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Friday, May 09, 2008

Newsday: Davidoff: Derek Jeter has a terrible VORP

“This is why I think all these newfangled stats are nothing but a bunch of garbage, invented by people who have too much time on their hands and a desperate need to prop up certain players while tearing down others.”* (*from the engaging Davidoff the cuffers in the comments)

M-Crash asked me this morning to check Derek Jeter’s VORP, so I did. Here is his ranking among shortstops (13th overall). Here is his overall ranking (tied for 124th with J.D. Drew).

Of course, of course, it’s still early, and Jeter historically hits better in the second half. He also missed a week with a quad injury. But still, are any of you alarmed by Jeter’s lack of power? Wally Matthews discussed that with Jeter in his column today.

Here is the best explanation I’ve seen for how VORP is calculated. It’s a particularly relevant stat given the Yankees’ injuries. We’re seeing how much their lineup is hurt by the absence of Alex Rodriguez (who led all of baseball last year with a 96.6 VORP) and Jorge Posada (who was eighth overall, and first among catchers, with a 73.4). VORP doesn’t factor in defense _ for that, you need WARP, or Wins Above Replacement Player _ but right now, offense is the Yankees’ problem.

 

Repoz Posted: May 09, 2008 at 03:28 AM | 7 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: sabermetrics, yankees

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   1. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: May 09, 2008 at 05:07 AM (#2774366)
VORP doesn’t factor in defense _ for that, you need WARP, or Wins Above Replacement Player


And that's supposed to help Jeter?
   2. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: May 09, 2008 at 05:25 AM (#2774367)
Da GloveZZZ!!!
   3. cardsfanboy Posted: May 09, 2008 at 05:51 AM (#2774368)
umm, 1 month into the season.... god I hate jeter as much as the next guy but seriously give him a little bit of time.
   4. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 09, 2008 at 06:12 AM (#2774373)
Derek Jeter has a terrible VORP

But a FABULOUS ass!
   5. Rich Posted: May 09, 2008 at 06:26 AM (#2774376)
But gets FABULOUS ass!

True dat.
   6. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: May 09, 2008 at 07:23 AM (#2774382)
OMG, Becky, look at his butt!
   7. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 09, 2008 at 08:34 AM (#2774384)
Josh Beckett is supposed to be focusing on Varitek's signals.

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