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Saturday, June 28, 2008
The Yankees got even in the nightcap at Shea Stadium behind an even more unlikely star. Sidney Ponson, called up before the game for his second stint in pinstripes, outdueled Pedro Martinez in a 9-0 Yankees victory.
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Ponson, released by pitching-poor Texas for being more trouble than he’s worth despite a 4-1 record, threw six shutout innings. He twice worked out of bases-loaded jams, coming back with none out in the second and one out in the third. In the second, he struck out Martinez, got Jose Reyes to pop up and induced Castillo to hit into a forceout. In the third, he got Ramon Castro to hit into a double play.
Martinez (2-2) saw his ERA balloon to 7.12 after he allowed six runs, six hits and five walks (one intentional) in 5 2/3 innings. The Yankees scored two runs in the fourth, fifth and sixth and three in the seventh.
Baseball IS a funny game, isn’t it?
NTNgod
Posted: June 28, 2008 at 03:43 AM | 46 comment(s)
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1. TVerik Posted: June 28, 2008 at 03:51 AM (#2835444)Church can't return soon enough, I just don't see how Endy can hit enough to justify a spot in the lineup. And I know we can't count on him, but Alou can't return soon enough either.
They had the bases loaded about 18 times in the first couple of innings and, as usual, couldn't do anything.
If he isn't the perfect illustration of why the Boston Red Sox are champs and the New York Mets are chumps, then I don't know what is.
A once-great pitcher had injuries and aged four years?
I mean, the Mets are chumps, but I don't understand "perfect illustration".
That's how I read the statement. I'm not sure I agree, however.
And this is basically mid-April for Pedro. Hopefully he can get into a groove.
On another note, Reyes made a stellar play on a ball hit by Cano in the first game.
The way the two of them are pitching, I certainly don't care who sucks less.
I thought they should have let Varitek walk. But overall I agree.
The way the two of them are pitching, I certainly don't care who sucks less.
Is it ever. I think we jinxed them.
Pedro's velocity is much better than it has been in recent years so I don't know why he's been so bad. I never expected Pedro to suck and be healthy but that might be where we are at this point in time.
If he isn't the perfect illustration of why the Boston Red Sox are champs and the New York Mets are chumps, then I don't know what is.
The Sox have done a fantastic job developing talent in the minors, but their free agency decisions have been a mixed bag since 2004. Julio Lugo, Edgar Renteria, Matt Clement, are just some of the bad signings they have made. Boston is a better organization than the Mets but I'd say that has more to do with player development.
Flores also made the Hot List, so I think we might soon have another stud to pair with Fernando.
Yes, maybe he'll be okay - I do think he'll be a solid (read, average to a bit above) starter and the Mets could use that. But Pedro as PEDRO! is done. No shame in it - it happens to every great player. He's smart enough and talented enough to be a contributor without a high percentage of his peak ability.
Anyway, I'd expect an average of 5.5-6IP per start with an ERA+ of 90-105 the rest of the way. Like I say, the Mets can use that, but he isn't going to win the pennant for them single handedly.
Everybody inside the game swears up and down that he is worth the money--and I know you used "worth".
The Sox have no one in their system who looks like a number 1 catcher. Wagner and Brown project as backups at best, and Kottaras is rapidly playing himself into non-prospect status. I think the Sox will bite the bullet and pay Tek a great deal of money for the next 3 years for his inevitable decline phase because they lack better alternatives.
1) trade a productive Renteria, opening at blackhole at SS;
2) live with a terrible hitting Coco for 2 years, one of which he wasn't healthy.
Varitek's an interesting case. He's been worth his contract, I think. But Pierzynski was available for 2/6 in that same offseason. He signed with the White Sox and helped them to the World Championship, largely behind several great pitching performances.
I don't know if it was a "huge mistake" for the Sox to let him walk, but it doesn't seem like something they should be praised for.
yeah, I didn't think he was tipping his pitches either. The hardest hit ball was Jeter's double/near home run, which was off a curveball, but if memory serves, Jeter has always been able to hit Pedro's curve
Correct--I'd imagine he got pretty lit up at the bar about a half hour after the game ended.
OPS+:
2006: 115
2007: 97 (injured for much of the first half of the season, causing him to lose the CF job)
2008: 132 (to this point)
Damon still has another season at $13 million on his contract. Now maybe he made more sense for Boston because he obviously wanted to stay there, but I think on balance it was a smart decision to let him go.
The fragility Damon showed in 2007, and the decline in his defense that caused him to be shifted out of CF, which reduces his value. I seriously doubt that the offense he shown this season is sustainable; his prior high in OPS+ was 117 in 2004. If that assumption correct, it's not unreasonable to expect that his offensive production will decline for much of the rest of the season.
Consequently, I think having $13 million committed to Damon in 2009 is suboptimal, and that Boston made a defensible decision to seek another option (even though Crisp hasn't met expectations).
As TVE points out, it's such a big problem that Damon left the Red Sox. It's the chain of events that followed, and I think that's what you have to figure into any decision like this. Overall, dealing Renteria+++ for Crisp+++ after losing Damon really put the team in awful shape for 2006, and not especially good shape afterward for SS/CF.
Even if you think Damon's contract was suboptimal, there's an argument to be made that it was less suboptimal than other options.
sounds familiar to things been said on this site many times.
Edmonds = done
Rolen = done
Delgado = done
Thomas = done
(and I'm sure that there are probably 20 other similiar comments some which may actually pan out -andruw = done, but many others are just premature and incorrect)
not to mention premature comments like Sabathia is done.
I agree that a case can be made either way.
And the Franchise went deep as well.
Sam, you still think our farm system is barren?
Damon has one of the worst arms in the majors. As his range started to decline, he was no longer an asset in CF.
Crisp is certainly down there, too, with the Juan Pierres of the world.
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