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Tuesday, March 20, 2012

Neyer: Lance Berkman Accuses Commissioner Of Extortion

You have to like Lance Berkman. He’s got two great nicknames where most players have none, and he’s perfectly willing to hurl poisoned barbs at the Commissioner’s Office. Tuesday, he was at it again.

Jerry Crasnick (via ESPN.com) on Berkman’s comments regarding the Astros’ move next season from the National League, after half a century, to the American:

  Berkman raised the stakes before a Grapefruit League game between the Cardinals and Astros in Kissimmee, telling ESPN.com and a reporter from another outlet, “I feel basically like the commissioner extorted Jim Crane into moving the Astros.”

  Berkman didn’t back down when asked if he has conveyed those sentiments directly to Selig. He said he would be comfortable using the word “extort” if he talks to the commissioner.

  “If he called me, I would tell him,” Berkman said. “I think that’s exactly what it was. To tell (Crane), ‘We’re going to hold the sale of the team up until you guys agreed to switch?’ It just happened that the Astros were being sold at an optimal time for that to happen.”

As I understand these things, extortion (or blackmail) is when I threaten you with something negative unless you do something for me.

Thanks to Chet.

Repoz Posted: March 20, 2012 at 06:30 PM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. McCoy Posted: March 20, 2012 at 06:42 PM (#4085566)
As I understand these things, extortion (or blackmail) is when I threaten you with something negative unless you do something for me.

Maybe he threatened Crane with letting him have the team if he didn't agree to it.

But seriously isn't the negative thing he is threatening is that he won't okay the sale?
   2. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 20, 2012 at 06:58 PM (#4085574)
It's not like the Astros have thrived in the National League, although it could have been different if they hadn't passed on drafting Derek Jeter.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 20, 2012 at 07:24 PM (#4085591)

As I understand these things, extortion (or blackmail) is when I threaten you with something negative unless you do something for me.


I will force you to own the Houston Astros, unless you do something for me!
   4. Downtown Bookie Posted: March 20, 2012 at 08:04 PM (#4085616)
If you mention extortion again, I'll have your legs broken.

DB
   5. Bob Evans Posted: March 20, 2012 at 08:26 PM (#4085626)
As I understand these things, extortion is where you can, like, bend your leg way over your head and stuff.
   6. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: March 20, 2012 at 08:33 PM (#4085630)
As I understand these things, extortion (or blackmail) is when I threaten you with something negative unless you do something for me.


No it's called negotiating. Crane does not have a right to buy the team at whatever terms he likes. If he finds the terms unacceptable, he is free to walk away with no negative consequences whatsoever.
   7. Darren Posted: March 20, 2012 at 09:36 PM (#4085658)
Wait, are you saying that a baseball player misused a word?
   8. Brian C Posted: March 20, 2012 at 10:12 PM (#4085678)
Crane does not have a right to buy the team at whatever terms he likes.

Which in itself is a pretty shady state of affairs, let's face it.
   9. cardsfanboy Posted: March 20, 2012 at 10:12 PM (#4085679)
Here I was hoping for a thread talking about how awesome Berkman is and instead we get the pedantic squad out and about worrying about the misuse of a hyperbolic statement.
   10. cmd600 Posted: March 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM (#4085687)
It's not like the Astros have thrived in the National League, although it could have been different if they hadn't passed on drafting Derek Jeter.


I know we all can't be privileged enough to think Captain Giftbasket is the greatest player who ever lived, but the Astros have made the postseason 6 times since Jeter's first actual go-round (1996) and are slightly above .500 since then. They haven't been too bad of a team until very recently. But hey, they could have won 56.7 games this year with Jeter. That's something, right?

Besides, they already had a damn good second baseman on the roster anyway.
   11. William Satterwhite Posted: March 20, 2012 at 11:15 PM (#4085702)
It's not like the Astros have thrived in the National League, although it could have been different if they hadn't passed on drafting Derek Jeter.


The Astros have more total wins and a higher winning percentage than the other franchise that entered the National League with them in 1962. Outside of actually winning the World Series, the Astros haven't been any less successful than any of the other post-61 expansion teams in terms of playoff appearances and winning records and have actually been much more successful than most.
   12. Dale Sams Posted: March 20, 2012 at 11:53 PM (#4085720)
If you mention extortion again, I'll have your legs broken.


"Well, I'm sure I can arrange a little honorarium from the Players Pension Fund"
   13. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: March 21, 2012 at 05:54 AM (#4085752)
Here I was hoping for a thread talking about how awesome Berkman is and instead we get the pedantic squad out and about worrying about the misuse of a hyperbolic statement.

Bite me.
   14. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: March 21, 2012 at 07:17 AM (#4085760)
Seems more like Selig bribed Crane than extorted him. But maybe that's just me.
   15. winnipegwhip Posted: March 21, 2012 at 10:11 AM (#4085845)
If you mention extortion again, I'll have your legs broken.


You go back and tell your boss I ain't no band leader. Yeah. Yeah. I heard that story.
   16. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 21, 2012 at 10:29 AM (#4085864)
You go back and tell your boss I ain't no band leader. Yeah. Yeah. I heard that story.

Anyone know who the producer was supposed to be?

Johnny Fontaine was Sinatra, of course, and the movie in question "From Here to Eternity", but was the producer somebody famous?
   17. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: March 21, 2012 at 10:45 AM (#4085880)
He’s got two great nicknames where most players have none,


Big Puma and ???
   18. Esmailyn Gonzalez Sr. Posted: March 21, 2012 at 10:51 AM (#4085884)
...and Fat Elvis
   19. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: March 21, 2012 at 11:31 AM (#4085927)
Didn't the move to the AL affect the sale price? I seem to recall Crane saying he wanted $50M off if the Astros switched leagues.
   20. Downtown Bookie Posted: March 21, 2012 at 06:52 PM (#4086350)
You go back and tell your boss I ain't no band leader. Yeah. Yeah. I heard that story.

Anyone know who the producer was supposed to be?

Johnny Fontaine was Sinatra, of course, and the movie in question "From Here to Eternity", but was the producer somebody famous?


It is presumed that the character of Jack Woltz was based upon Harry Cohn. I'll leave it to our resident film buffs of that era (Andy, Morty, etc) to grade how closely the fiction mirrored the reality.

DB

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