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I estimate that only 10-12 Primates care about the NHL Playoffs, but with our own thread, we won’t detract from what this site is really about: the NBA playoffs and Pavement’s discography.

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   1001. Yardape Posted: April 25, 2011 at 12:28 AM (#3808232)
I knew it re: Luongo.

If Vancouver loses this series, Vigneault should lose his job for letting him play Game 5. Or somebody has to lose a job, somewhere.


Is there a report that Luongo is hurt? TSN's story says there's no injury report. Either way, I agree that Vigneault has handled this very poorly.
   1002. Justin T is going to crush some tacos Thursday Posted: April 25, 2011 at 12:35 AM (#3808234)
I don't see how he could not be injured. Keith Jones made one mention of the apparent injury in Game 4, but then he ripped Vigneault for not going with his franchise goalie and everyone else has been acting like they think this is just a goalie swap due to healthy ineffectiveness from Luongo.

I think Keith Jones is an incredibly stupid human and the rest of them have either not been paying attention or are also stupid.
   1003. Yardape Posted: April 25, 2011 at 12:58 AM (#3808246)
I don't see how he could not be injured.


Oh, I agree with this. The timing of everything does seem odd. I was just wondering if you've seen anything from the Canucks. I think it was a really bad idea for Vigneault to make the switch WITHOUT telling everyone Luongo is injured. At least give your guy some cover from the media vultures.
   1004. Justin T is going to crush some tacos Thursday Posted: April 25, 2011 at 01:15 AM (#3808257)
Secrecy seems to be the most important thing to everyone when it comes to injuries in the NHL. I think Vigneault probably figured people in the media could figure it out for themselves. He didn't know who he was dealing with.
   1005. Yardape Posted: April 25, 2011 at 03:00 AM (#3808287)
So...Schneider gets hurt, Luongo gets sent in again and gives up the OT winner. This is not going to help anything.
   1006. Langer Monk Posted: April 25, 2011 at 04:20 AM (#3808313)
I wasn't really paying attention to the commentators - anyone ever say why Luongo was in the locker room instead of the bench for the first 2+ periods?
   1007.     Hey Gurl Posted: April 25, 2011 at 05:34 AM (#3808331)
Luongo looked pathetic on that goal. No idea why he was on his stomach after stopping a point shot.

The Canucks, I believe, are the primary cause of my clinical depression.


I wasn't really paying attention to the commentators - anyone ever say why Luongo was in the locker room instead of the bench for the first 2+ periods?


Something about there not being enough room on the bench. Didn't make much sense to me honestly.
   1008. Justin T is going to crush some tacos Thursday Posted: April 25, 2011 at 12:21 PM (#3808370)
Well, the shot was deflected and he had to do something to stop it. Something that got him off balance so he ended up on his face. But the alternative was for the first shot to go in the net. Put a positive spin on it, and that was the first time since the first period of Game 4 that he did something besides go into the butterfly deep in his net and watch the puck go by. Maybe the Hawks will get fewer than 6 goals in Game 7.
   1009. Cabbage Posted: April 25, 2011 at 06:37 PM (#3808633)
This comeback has been unreal so far. I'd written the Hawks off as dead, and they're really pulled out something miraculous (though I hesitate to use that particular word so close to the Easter Holiday).
   1010. DA Baracus Posted: April 26, 2011 at 01:23 AM (#3808889)
The refs in the Pittsburgh/Tampa Bay game are hilariously bad.
   1011. Cabbage Posted: April 26, 2011 at 01:46 PM (#3809106)
So Vig is saying that he'll go back to Lou in Game 7.
   1012. JL Posted: April 26, 2011 at 02:01 PM (#3809111)
So Vig is saying that he'll go back to Lou in Game 7.

I don't think he played terribly in Game 6 (granted, it was a small sample size). That being said, I don't know what he should do. Schneider was okay, but three goals allowed is not that impressive. Plus I have no idea if he is really hurt or not. Perhaps Luongo is just the least hurt of the two?
   1013. steagles Posted: April 26, 2011 at 03:01 PM (#3809176)
this is the hit.


how does richards not get suspended for that. this wasn't the type of thing where connolly failed to protect himself, or where he turned into the wall to get a penalty, this was richards, with a head of steam, checking a defenseless tim connolly head first into the boards.


i know the whole thing's a joke at this point, but if you're not suspending a player for that hit, i don't know why you're even bothering with any suspensions at all.
   1014. Justin T is going to crush some tacos Thursday Posted: April 26, 2011 at 04:16 PM (#3809263)
I noticed that the announcers in the game and the studio didn't really make much of the hit, and I really think that could have played a big role in the eventual no suspension. With anything else like that all season and playoffs, everybody immediately pontificates about the possibility of a suspension for that hit and says that it's exactly what we need to get out of the game this time.

I don't know about a conspiracy theory or anything, but it was odd to me that nobody seemed to talk about it that night. And lookie-lookie, no outrage and no suspension.
   1015. DA Baracus Posted: April 26, 2011 at 05:13 PM (#3809312)
how does richards not get suspended for that


Oh please. Since Downie only got one game for leaving his feet, there's no way that was worth anything.

And it's a ####### disgrace that the ref waited until Connolly was laid out on the ice to give a penalty.
   1016. steagles Posted: April 26, 2011 at 07:01 PM (#3809452)


Oh please. Since Downie only got one game for leaving his feet, there's no way that was worth anything.

And it's a ####### disgrace that the ref waited until Connolly was laid out on the ice to give a penalty.
this isn't a matter of legislating the result. the hit was dangerous, and the resulting injury was predictable. i don't think richards should have been suspended because the guy is injured, i think he should have been suspended because it was a dirty hit. if you don't suspend a guy for running a defenseless player face first into the boards, when are you ever gonna suspend someone.


two more quick thoughts:
1) i'm a flyers fan. suspending richards for game 7 would hurt the team immensely, but it was a dirty hit, and there should be no tolerance for that in the central offices. i'm rather fond the kind of physical hockey this team is known for, but this is a new century and the league needs to do a better job of protecting the players, even if that only means punishing offenders after the fact.

2) i'm quite familiar with steve downie. the guy was suspended 20 games before he played a shift in the NHL due to this hit against dean mcammond in the preseason. that suspension was completely reactionary due to the severity of the injury and downie's reputation coming from juniors, where he ended his career on suspension due to a hazing incident that involved (i believe) akim aliu.

now, watch that downie hit, and compare it to raffi torres's hit on brent seabrook this postseason. downie got 20 games. torres got 0.


i do not think it would be possible for the NHL to do a worse job if they were trying to. the whole of management needs to go, from bettman to campbell and down. there's just no excuse for this.
   1017. zack Posted: April 26, 2011 at 09:43 PM (#3809629)
I think a moritorium on talking about reffing and supplementary discipline until the end of the playoffs would be a good idea. Bringing me down, man.

Two great series will conclude tonight, featuring my favorite and second favorite teams, both locked in hate-filled deathmatch, both on the road. The two OTs sunday were exhausting enough, tonight should be horribly, painfully amazing.
   1018. steagles Posted: April 26, 2011 at 10:22 PM (#3809650)
Two great series will conclude tonight, featuring my favorite and second favorite teams, both locked in hate-filled deathmatch, both on the road. The two OTs sunday were exhausting enough, tonight should be horribly, painfully amazing.
i'm predicting a 7-1 thrashing of ryan miller. the flyers have been dominant on the puck this series, and i think the floodgates open tonight.
   1019. Langer Monk Posted: April 26, 2011 at 10:22 PM (#3809652)
i do not think it would be possible for the NHL to do a worse job if they were trying to. the whole of management needs to go, from bettman to campbell and down. there's just no excuse for this.


The conspiracy as I believe it to be in my own mind went like this: No way in hell they were going to suspend the Flyers captain for Game 7.

But you're right, once more the league was given an opportunity to show they were serious about getting these hits out of the game, and once more they showed me they aren't serious about it at all.

Having said that, I'm rooting for Montreal to blow out Boston early and hold on, so I can pay attention to four Game 7s over tonight and tomorrow. Except for Phoenix, it's been a great first round of games.
   1020. DA Baracus Posted: April 26, 2011 at 10:44 PM (#3809674)
Steagles, I'm a Flyers fan too. You'll never get me to admit that was a dirty hit by Richards.
   1021. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 26, 2011 at 11:19 PM (#3809709)
I guess it was Glen Healy, but some CBC broadcaster on Montreal fans being threatened with a bench minor for throwing towels onto the ice: "Boston can't score on the powerplay, take the minor!"
   1022. zack Posted: April 27, 2011 at 12:02 AM (#3809764)
i'm predicting a 7-1 thrashing of ryan miller. the flyers have been dominant on the puck this series, and i think the floodgates open tonight.


It certainly is starting like that. Jesus christ.
   1023. Langer Monk Posted: April 27, 2011 at 12:22 AM (#3809804)
It certainly is starting like that. Jesus christ.


Meanwhile, in Montreal, the Bruins are interested in making it as difficult as is possible for themselves.
   1024. zack Posted: April 27, 2011 at 12:23 AM (#3809809)
Miller was a golden god in the first, but that fluke goal was due after the 5 or 6 A+++ chances the flyers missed.

What the #### were you thinking there, Mike. Argh.
   1025. Justin T is going to crush some tacos Thursday Posted: April 27, 2011 at 12:26 AM (#3809819)
Steagles, I'm a Flyers fan too. You'll never get me to admit that was a dirty hit by Richards.

Maybe if you just mean that his intent wasn't to maim. But he's still responsible for his action, and his action was to shove him from behind in a vulnerable position headfirst into the wall. If you don't think it was a dangerous hit from behind, you're a moron.
   1026. DA Baracus Posted: April 27, 2011 at 12:30 AM (#3809830)
Maybe if you just mean that his intent wasn't to maim


1. Yes, I do not believe his intent was to injure.

2. I won't say it's a dirty hit because I'm a homer.

Milan Lucic though... see ya.
   1027. steagles Posted: April 27, 2011 at 12:59 AM (#3809879)
my words:
i don't think richards should have been suspended because the guy is injured, i think he should have been suspended because it was a dirty hit.


2. I won't say it's a dirty hit because I'm a homer.
i think dirty is the wrong standard here, so i'll take the blame for introducing that phrase. what it was is a dangerous hit. it was unnecessary and excessive, and if you don't suspend a player for that hit, there's no reason to suspend anyone for anything.

halfway to that 6 goal margin i was looking for. flyers now up 3-0 on a JVR deflection.
   1028. steagles Posted: April 27, 2011 at 01:08 AM (#3809890)
JVR might wind up being pretty ####### good.
   1029. DA Baracus Posted: April 27, 2011 at 01:31 AM (#3809917)
i think dirty is the wrong standard here, so i'll take the blame for introducing that phrase. what it was is a dangerous hit. it was unnecessary and excessive, and if you don't suspend a player for that hit, there's no reason to suspend anyone for anything.


I agree with everything but the suspension part. But again, that's because I'm biased.
   1030. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 27, 2011 at 01:31 AM (#3809919)
Is there something in the Gatorade on the Philly bench?
Briere's hit from behind was worse than Richards'.
At least Connolly had a chance to put up his arms (not that it did much).
The Buffalo player had no clue Briere was going to nail him like that.
   1031. DA Baracus Posted: April 27, 2011 at 01:33 AM (#3809923)
Briere hit a puck carrier on the side. It was an excessive hit, but not really comparable.

Meanwhile, Miller punches Carcillo in the head and doesn't get called, and Gerbe drops his gloves to punch Carle and the Sabres get a PP out of it. So boo freaking hoo Buffalo.
   1032. Zipperholes Posted: April 27, 2011 at 02:09 AM (#3809981)
Why are all these teams benching/pulling their superstar goalies in the playoffs?
   1033. Yardape Posted: April 27, 2011 at 02:16 AM (#3809987)
Why are all these teams benching/pulling their superstar goalies in the playoffs?


Because panicking is what NHL coaches do best?
   1034. Spivey Posted: April 27, 2011 at 04:38 AM (#3810066)
Berzerker!!!!
   1035. Good cripple hitter Posted: April 27, 2011 at 04:39 AM (#3810067)
I almost turned this game off a while ago, and I'm really glad that I didn't. That was awesome.
   1036. Langer Monk Posted: April 27, 2011 at 04:41 AM (#3810070)
That was special.
   1037. DA Baracus Posted: April 27, 2011 at 04:50 AM (#3810072)
If Chicago wins this that goal is an instant "History Will Be Made" commercial.
   1038. DA Baracus Posted: April 27, 2011 at 04:51 AM (#3810073)
Why are all these teams benching/pulling their superstar goalies in the playoffs?


The Flyers don't have any superstar goalies!
   1039. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: April 27, 2011 at 04:51 AM (#3810074)
When the hawks scored kane was on the bench getting treatment from a cut, hit face first into the boards when right against em, cant tell which direction he was hit from but looked like from behind
   1040. zack Posted: April 27, 2011 at 04:56 AM (#3810076)
Classic Toews "I want this more than you" moment.
   1041. zack Posted: April 27, 2011 at 05:10 AM (#3810083)
Well, out with a whimper, but about the most admirable series loss you could ask for.

That chance by Sharp on the PP usually ends it.
   1042.     Hey Gurl Posted: April 27, 2011 at 05:14 AM (#3810085)
holy #### #### jesus
   1043. Moses Taylor, Moses Taylor Posted: April 27, 2011 at 05:16 AM (#3810086)
The way Lu was playing it - waiting for sharp's shot - I wonder now, in retrospect, if toews shouldn't have just tried to punch it in. I think Crawford has to make that save but can't blame him after getting hung out to dry like that. He was awesome tonight, IMO he totally outplayed luongo but the nucks were just better top to bottom tonight (and this season)
   1044. Moses Taylor, Moses Taylor Posted: April 27, 2011 at 05:17 AM (#3810088)
Its a huge monkey off the back and all, but quite the celebration there. They should be worried about a huge letdown next series now.
   1045. Justin T is going to crush some tacos Thursday Posted: April 27, 2011 at 10:58 AM (#3810163)
I think Crawford has to make that save

Has to stop a slapshot from the slot on a wobbling puck that could go any direction and in this case happens to fire off into the perfect spot? I think you're being a wee bit unreasonable. The turnover gets all the blame.
   1046. Langer Monk Posted: April 27, 2011 at 12:10 PM (#3810186)
Has to stop a slapshot from the slot on a wobbling puck that could go any direction and in this case happens to fire off into the perfect spot? I think you're being a wee bit unreasonable. The turnover gets all the blame.


I'd say 'totally unreasonable'. That shot was like a shanked five iron. Crawford deserved better.
   1047. steagles Posted: April 27, 2011 at 05:09 PM (#3810559)
michael leighton is MIA since game 6. he has not been seen at the flyers' facility, and he was not present at last night's game. he's under contract next year for $1.5 million.
   1048. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: April 27, 2011 at 05:20 PM (#3810579)
That was a pretty crushing defeat, though I must admit the Canucks deserved to win game 7. They outhit the Hawks, got to pucks quicker, and it looked like they had a gameplan.

This game illustrated 2 problems I have with Joel Quenneville:
1. His constant changing up of lines. He rarely keeps the same players together for multiple games, let alone multiple periods. It's led to awkward line changes which has led to opponent breakaways and delay-of-game penalties.
2. Q had no offensive game plan going into this game. Dump and chase, dump and chase, dump and chase. So frustrating to watch, considering the offensive firepower of this team.
   1049. DA Baracus Posted: April 27, 2011 at 05:27 PM (#3810584)
michael leighton is MIA since game 6. he has not been seen at the flyers' facility, and he was not present at last night's game.


This is a good thing, as it means he will never play for the team again.
   1050. steagles Posted: April 27, 2011 at 06:11 PM (#3810641)
1. His constant changing up of lines. He rarely keeps the same players together for multiple games, let alone multiple periods. It's led to awkward line changes which has led to opponent breakaways and delay-of-game penalties.
i think that's a hockey thing. in my time following the flyers, the only lines i can remember staying together through a whole season are the legion of doom (leclair-lindros-renberg), the rush line (gagne-forsberg-knuble), and on a whole other level, this year, the hartnell-briere-leino line stayed together from start to finish. that's ~15 years, and only 3 lines that had that kind of continuity. it's just the way it is in this sport.
   1051. steagles Posted: April 28, 2011 at 01:21 AM (#3811360)
there's another dangerous hit that wasn't a penalty and won't be a suspension.
   1052. Yardape Posted: April 28, 2011 at 02:03 AM (#3811466)
Its a huge monkey off the back and all, but quite the celebration there. They should be worried about a huge letdown next series now.


That was my thought watching the highlights. Usually you don't see the coaches huddle/hug until the Stanley Cup or Olympic gold medal has been won.

i think that's a hockey thing.


I think so too, but I wonder if it's something where someone who brought stability might bring better results. In Montreal, Jacques Martin is forever fiddling with things, burying one guy one week and putting him on the top lines the next. Maybe that's the way it has to be done, but I wonder if the players wouldn't respond better if he just left them alone to do their jobs.
   1053. Langer Monk Posted: April 28, 2011 at 02:10 AM (#3811474)
Looked like a deflection off of Halpern to end another Game 7 in OT.
   1054. Langer Monk Posted: April 28, 2011 at 02:44 AM (#3811542)
Washington in 6
Buffalo in 6
Boston in 7
Tampa Bay in 6

Vancouver in 6
San Jose in 7
Phoenix in 7
Anaheim in 5


5 of 8. First time since the league went to 6 Divisions that all 6 Division champs won in the first round.

Since 2d round starts tomorrow, might as well get it out of the way:
Washington in 7
Boston in 7
Vancouver in 5
Detroit in 6

I fully expect to be very very wrong this time.
   1055. steagles Posted: April 28, 2011 at 02:50 AM (#3811548)
there's another dangerous hit that wasn't a penalty and won't be a suspension.
here's the hit i was talking about
   1056. steagles Posted: April 28, 2011 at 02:54 AM (#3811551)
Boston in 7

I fully expect to be very very wrong this time.
there's your problem. the flyers win in 5.
   1057. Langer Monk Posted: April 28, 2011 at 02:59 AM (#3811557)
here's the hit i was talking about


Wondered if you meant the one on Talbot in the other game.

I'm actually on the fence for this hit... because Halpern really should have just avoided him and not turned his head. I'll think on it longer.

there's your problem. the flyers win in 5.


I expect the Flyer goaltending to cost them at least 2 games single-handedly.
   1058. JustDan Posted: April 28, 2011 at 01:30 PM (#3811808)
OK, results from round 1 based on 3 points for picking the winning team and a bonus point if you got the number of games right:

zack 18
DK near DC 17
JDLink 17
Langer Monk 16
Cabbage 16
ursos arctos 14


here are my picks
Caps in 6
Flyers in 7
Canucks in 5
Red Wings in 7
   1059. JL Posted: April 28, 2011 at 01:47 PM (#3811817)
Wow. Tied for first. I am very (pleasantly) surprised.

My picks

Caps in 6
Flyers in 7
Preds in 6
Wings in 6
   1060. zack Posted: April 28, 2011 at 02:17 PM (#3811834)
OK, results from round 1 based on 3 points for picking the winning team and a bonus point if you got the number of games right:

zack 18


Wow, I figured the ludicrous homer pick against the Red Wings would've killed me. Horribly, horribly wrong on most of the series lengths, heh.

East:
1- Capitals vs Lightning - Capitals in 6
2- Flyers vs Bruins - Bruins in 7

West:
1- Canucks vs Preds - Canucks in 7
2- Sharks vs Red Wings - Sharks in 7

Really, all of these games are complete toss-ups. Only the Predators are really out-talented, and they will not go gentle. I have no idea what to make of the Lightning, other than I wouldn't want Rolly to be my #1.
   1061. JL Posted: April 28, 2011 at 02:49 PM (#3811862)
Wow. Tied for first. I am very (pleasantly) surprised.

Actually, tied for second. Still surprised, though perhaps not quite as pleasantly.
   1062. steagles Posted: April 28, 2011 at 02:58 PM (#3811871)
I'm actually on the fence for this hit... because Halpern really should have just avoided him and not turned his head. I'll think on it longer.
halpern was away from the play, with his eyes on the puck, skating into the corner, and ferrence put a shoulder into his chin while he was looking the other way.

there should just be no tolerance for that. that's not a matter of legislating the result, it's that ferrence went out of his way to create a dangerous situation for an opposing player on a play where the puck was nowhere near them. i don't see how you can let that kind of play stand without being addressed.
   1063. steagles Posted: April 28, 2011 at 03:06 PM (#3811875)
I expect the Flyer goaltending to cost them at least 2 games single-handedly.
that's a definite possibility, but i think all the goaltending issues are in the past. boucher is the guy now.


and the team is rolling right now. they came into the series against buffalo playing like ####, but they out of it playing really, really well. JVR is on fire. briere is on fire. giroux is on fire. there's a lot of talent here.
   1064. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 28, 2011 at 08:11 PM (#3812287)
Pardon me while I interrupt playoff talk with some mildly amusing news.

The Leafs signed another goaltending prospect, Mark Owuya. That's the fourth free agent goaltending prospect that Burke has signed in less than two years. (Gustavsson, Scrivens, and Rynnas). That's pretty unusual. Owuya is Swedish born, with a Ugandan father and Russian mother.

He's famous in Sweden for performing on the Swedish equivalent of American Idol as a rapper named Mark in da Park.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PfVFHbfita0

Seriously.
   1065. Langer Monk Posted: April 28, 2011 at 09:26 PM (#3812365)
halpern was away from the play, with his eyes on the puck, skating into the corner, and ferrence put a shoulder into his chin while he was looking the other way.

there should just be no tolerance for that. that's not a matter of legislating the result, it's that ferrence went out of his way to create a dangerous situation for an opposing player on a play where the puck was nowhere near them. i don't see how you can let that kind of play stand without being addressed.


The reason I'm hedging at this point: Halpern was looking at Ference and then at the last second turned his head, and ran into his shoulder. As 'easy' as it would have been for Ference to move, it would have just as easy for Halpern to pay attention and skate around Ference. To me, at this point, it's like when a player turns his back on an incoming check.

You argue Ference went out of his way to create the situation, I disagree. I think each of them were equally creating that dangerous situation.
   1066. Langer Monk Posted: April 28, 2011 at 09:29 PM (#3812370)
Throw in a "By the way":

There's no way Halpern spent 15 minutes in the 'quiet room'.
   1067. steagles Posted: April 29, 2011 at 04:58 AM (#3812837)
You argue Ference went out of his way to create the situation, I disagree. I think each of them were equally creating that dangerous situation.
he deliberately went out of his way to put a shoulder into the chin of a player who, though he may not have been paying attention, was also not immediately involved in any threatening play.

there's just no excuse for him doing that.


i know this kind of play will not be eliminated from the NHL anytime soon, but when situations like this pop up, the offending player should be suspended.
Throw in a "By the way":

There's no way Halpern spent 15 minutes in the 'quiet room'.
he's a hockey player. last 10 minutes in the 3rd period of a tied game 7. going back on the ice as soon as possible is just what they do.
   1068. JL Posted: April 29, 2011 at 01:55 PM (#3812925)
i know this kind of play will not be eliminated from the NHL anytime soon, but when situations like this pop up, the offending player should be suspended.

While I don't necessarily disagree with you in the theory, this was a border-line play that I can't get too worked up about. I prefer to focus on the others, like the Kunitz hit, which in my opinions were much worse.
   1069. zack Posted: April 29, 2011 at 02:57 PM (#3812973)
Regardless of everything else, it was a dick move. Unfortunately I'm not sure if it's even the top 3 to earn Ference the "Dick o' the Week"
   1070. Justin T is going to crush some tacos Thursday Posted: April 29, 2011 at 03:05 PM (#3812978)
Did anybody else think Ference's face looked really yellow all series when they gave closeups of him? Looked like Kramer with cirrhosis of the liver on my tv.
   1071. Langer Monk Posted: April 29, 2011 at 08:30 PM (#3813387)
he's a hockey player. last 10 minutes in the 3rd period of a tied game 7. going back on the ice as soon as possible is just what they do.


I get that. Which is why it's not supposed to be up to them. Either that 15 minute thing is more lip service to not actually address the problem, or he wasn't so hurt.

While I don't necessarily disagree with you in the theory, this was a border-line play that I can't get too worked up about. I prefer to focus on the others, like the Kunitz hit, which in my opinions were much worse.


I'm in the same boat. Usually I'm for much more lengthy suspensions. This one - I'm not sold.

Anyways, more hockey.
   1072. steagles Posted: May 03, 2011 at 12:27 PM (#3816383)
there's your problem. the flyers win in 5.
well, guess that's off the table.
   1073. Norcan Posted: May 03, 2011 at 12:51 PM (#3816392)
He's famous in Sweden for performing on the Swedish equivalent of American Idol as a rapper named Mark in da Park.


That's a great video. Thanks for the post. You know he has to be rapping underneath his goalie mask all game long. It's the perfect position for him to marry his love of rapping and hockey.
   1074. Zipperholes Posted: May 09, 2011 at 02:31 AM (#3821618)
Every game, the Sharks pretty well control the game and then the last 5-10 minutes, the Wings run circles around them. Makes you wonder if it's a fatigue issue for the Sharks or if the Wings only get a sense of urgency when they're against the wall.
   1075. John DiFool2 Posted: May 09, 2011 at 02:44 AM (#3821628)
I can't believe (as a Red Wings fan) what I just saw. They were as dead and as listless a team as you will ever find, making dumb play after dumb play-and then in a heartbeat they woke up, San Jose reeled back, and now it's back to the Joe.
   1076. JL Posted: May 09, 2011 at 01:48 PM (#3821813)
I can't believe (as a Red Wings fan) what I just saw. They were as dead and as listless a team as you will ever find, making dumb play after dumb play-and then in a heartbeat they woke up, San Jose reeled back, and now it's back to the Joe.

I tend think last night makes up for Game 3, where the Wings probably should have won, but SJ pulled it out.

That being said, these last two games are a dead cat bounce back. I am as a big a Wings fan as there is, but SJ is the better team all-around (with the exception of the goalie). It is clear to me that Detroit just does not have enough.
   1077. zack Posted: May 09, 2011 at 02:22 PM (#3821837)
Lidstrom is certainly going out with a bang.

(Please god tell me he is going out).
   1078. JL Posted: May 11, 2011 at 12:48 PM (#3824074)
(Please god tell me he is going out).

Well, he has at least one more game. I was very surprised how much Detroit dominated last night. Really bad effort from SJ (other than in goal). But they still have another game, and it is in SJ, so I have to imagine they will be up for it.

This series has been interesting, in that it has been much more even than SJ being up 3-0 would imply. Detroit could have easily won one (or more) of those games. By the same token, SJ could have (and probably should have) won game 5. While I have conditioned myself into accepting that SJ will likely win game 7, I have to say it has been some great hockey by both teams who are about as even as two teams can be. Real fun to watch.
   1079. Justin T is going to crush some tacos Thursday Posted: May 11, 2011 at 01:47 PM (#3824134)
There is no way the Sharks win Game 7, without a host of lucky bounces. They have folded, as they always do sooner or later.
   1080. JL Posted: May 11, 2011 at 02:30 PM (#3824200)
There is no way the Sharks win Game 7, without a host of lucky bounces. They have folded, as they always do sooner or later.

If the Wings play with the drive they did last night, I completely agree. However, that team does not show up all that much in the last couple of years, and certainly not in back to back games. I still hope you are correct.
   1081. JL Posted: May 13, 2011 at 01:15 PM (#3826009)
If the Wings play with the drive they did last night, I completely agree. However, that team does not show up all that much in the last couple of years, and certainly not in back to back games. I still hope you are correct.

Unfortunately, they waited until the second period to start playing, by which point they were down 2-0. The Wings won the rest of the game, 2-1, but that was not enough. Tough series, well played by both sides.
   1082. steagles Posted: May 29, 2011 at 02:38 AM (#3840299)
i've got the canucks in 4.
   1083. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: May 29, 2011 at 03:21 AM (#3840304)
It's been too long since a Canadian team has won a Stanley Cup. I also don't like the Bruins. So, I am rooting for the Canucks. I think they will win the series but I doubt it will be in 4 games. It'll take at least six IMHO.
   1084. PJ Martinez Posted: May 29, 2011 at 03:44 AM (#3840308)
Are the Bruins hated like the other Boston teams are?
   1085. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: May 29, 2011 at 04:43 AM (#3840318)
Are the Bruins hated like the other Boston teams are?

I hate the Bruins because they ripped off the Leafs in the Raycroft/Rask deal (although the fact the Leafs have signed 1642 goaltending prospects since then has helped alleviate that hatred. It doesn't hurt the Rask was only a backup this year. I still think Rask is going to be a great goalie.) I hate them because they are a division rival. I hate them for the Kessel deal although I still think that was the right move at the time.

I also am rooting against them because Boston fans shouldn't be allowed to enjoy multiple championships while my favorite teams rarely make the playoffs.
   1086. Famous Original Joe C Posted: May 29, 2011 at 02:56 PM (#3840381)
Are the Bruins hated like the other Boston teams are?

STEAGLES hates the Bruins because they knocked the Flyers around like a ragdoll. Well, he may have hated them anyway, but that's the reason for his prediction.
   1087. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: May 29, 2011 at 03:19 PM (#3840392)
Had somebody asked me 2 months ago whether the World was ending on May 21st like that guy said it would, or the Canucks would win 3 playoff rounds, I would have answered Apocalypse.

That Stanchion should have a statue of itself outside of Rogers Arena.
   1088. steagles Posted: May 29, 2011 at 03:37 PM (#3840395)
STEAGLES hates the Bruins because they knocked the Flyers around like a ragdoll. Well, he may have hated them anyway, but that's the reason for his prediction.
i don't hate the bruins so much as i hate their players, their management, their fans, and their city.

other than that, really, i have no problem with them at all.
   1089. steagles Posted: May 29, 2011 at 03:39 PM (#3840396)

Had somebody asked me 2 months ago whether the World was ending on May 21st like that guy said it would, or the Canucks would win 3 playoff rounds, I would have answered Apocalypse.
i get that there's history, but they had the best record in the regular season, they have multiple world class forwards, and they have arguably the best goalie in the world. that seems like a recipe for playoff success.
   1090. DA Baracus Posted: May 29, 2011 at 03:44 PM (#3840399)
Are the Bruins hated like the other Boston teams are?


Yes, because of Jack Edwards.
   1091. zack Posted: May 31, 2011 at 03:05 PM (#3841499)
So Canucks vs. Bruins, eh? I'm rooting for fog, bats, blackouts, line brawls, goalie fights, own goals and no goals. And I guess a Bruins win. Bring on the draft.

Oh and hey not a single Finals game played in May. Wonderful.
   1092. steagles Posted: May 31, 2011 at 04:38 PM (#3841562)
winnipeg, huh?
   1093. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 31, 2011 at 04:56 PM (#3841571)
winnipeg, huh?

This time, we mean it!
   1094. steagles Posted: May 31, 2011 at 05:14 PM (#3841581)
winnipeg, huh?

This time, we mean it!
it gets better. the NHL is apparently not gonna realign their divisions to account for the change, so the team that's 400 miles northwest of minneapolis will play in a division that also contains tampa bay, florida, washington, and carolina.


that's gonna be a hellacious schedule for them.
   1095. mex4173 Posted: May 31, 2011 at 05:20 PM (#3841588)
I was 9 and growing up in Manitoba when the Jets moved. The team relocation is one of the main reasons baseball became my favorite sport. I know there are reasons to be wary, but today it is hard to be anything but thrilled like a kid.
   1096. Langer Monk Posted: May 31, 2011 at 09:53 PM (#3841820)
it gets better. the NHL is apparently not gonna realign their divisions to account for the change, so the team that's 400 miles northwest of minneapolis will play in a division that also contains tampa bay, florida, washington, and carolina.


that's gonna be a hellacious schedule for them.


The only reason I can figure for this, (since I haven't seen a reason from the NHL), is that they don't want to have to realign again next season if Phoenix moves to Quebec (or something east). If they moved Nashville this season, then there's no Phoenix next, Nashville might have to move back West.......? Or something.
   1097. JL Posted: May 31, 2011 at 10:13 PM (#3841834)
The only reason I can figure for this, (since I haven't seen a reason from the NHL), is that they don't want to have to realign again next season if Phoenix moves to Quebec (or something east). If they moved Nashville this season, then there's no Phoenix next, Nashville might have to move back West.......? Or something.

I suspect that they have also been working with arenas on the 2011-12 schedule, and don't want to have to rework it at this late date.

I figure that Columbus is the most likely to move East (jump start the franchise, create a rivalry with Pittsburgh), followed by Nashville (natural to move into the Southeast division). No way Detroit moves (despite the fact that the city is actually further east than Atlanta).
   1098. steagles Posted: May 31, 2011 at 11:32 PM (#3841894)
winnipeg, huh?
and finally, winnipeg's most famous citizen weighs in:

THE JETS ARE BACK BABY!!!!! "I'm from Winnipeg, you idiots!"
-chris jericho
   1099. zack Posted: June 01, 2011 at 01:33 PM (#3842338)
Just please, not the Manitoba Moose. Jets is a pretty meh name, but the uniform was pretty sweet. Moose is a WHL name masquerading as an AHL name.

I vote for the Winnipeg Wendigos.
   1100. Flynn Posted: June 01, 2011 at 02:03 PM (#3842359)
It has to be the Jets, to the point that I really think it will be a huge letdown for Winnipeg fans if it's not the Jets.
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