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Tuesday, September 11, 2012

NL playoff race: September 11, 2012

NL Wildcard

ATL 81-62 [7-4 in SEPT]
STL 75-67 [4-6 in SEPT]
LAD 74-68 [4-5 in SEPT] (1 GB)
PIT 72-69 [2-8 in SEPT] (2.5 GB)
MIL 71-71 [8-3 in SEPT] (4 GB)
PHI 71-71 [8-2 in SEPT] (4 GB)
ARI 70-72 [4-5 in SEPT] (5 GB)

MLB.com: Brewers top Braves, complete climb to .500
MLB.com: Cardinals battle, but rocky fourth stings Wainwright
MLB.com: Kershaw ends up on wrong side of duel in Phoenix
MLB.com: Bucs rally with homers, but can’t halt skid
MLB.com: Phils hold off Fish, win sixth straight, return to .500

NTNgod Posted: September 11, 2012 at 11:12 PM | 33 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: braves, brewers, cardinals, diamondbacks, dodgers, pennant race, phillies, pirates

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   1. Sleepy supports unauthorized rambling Posted: September 11, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4233313)
Wainwright gives up his first hit/5 runs in the 4th inning, after three balls bounce off of infielder's gloves (one called an error, all three should have been) and the umpire misses two obvious strike three's to Alonso (ended in a bases loaded walk). AW forced to get 7 outs that inning.

Four more runs score after the umpire fail. #########.
   2. Ray (RDP) Posted: September 11, 2012 at 11:36 PM (#4233315)
Who is shot worse? The Pirates, or Carlos Beltran?
   3. Ray (RDP) Posted: September 11, 2012 at 11:41 PM (#4233318)
Beltran: .209/.251/.414 (.665) in the second half. 203 PA.

Pirates: 13-20 since August 1st.
   4. GregD Posted: September 11, 2012 at 11:43 PM (#4233321)
That five-spot the Padres put on the Cardinals makes it look like the Wildcard is going to get even crazier.
   5. Sleepy supports unauthorized rambling Posted: September 11, 2012 at 11:44 PM (#4233322)
Who is shot worse? The Pirates, or Carlos Beltran?


I have more faith in the Pirates at this point. Beltran's been Mendoza-level since Jul 1st.

Would give you a coke, Ray, but no fair answering your own question. And I'm in a bad mood. No coke for you!
   6. Sleepy supports unauthorized rambling Posted: September 11, 2012 at 11:48 PM (#4233325)
That five-spot the Padres put on the Cardinals makes it look like the Wildcard is going to get even crazier.


Ah, but Dbacks score! Good mood! Cokes for everyone.
   7. Rennie's Tenet Posted: September 11, 2012 at 11:55 PM (#4233329)
Pirates: 13-20 since August 1st.


13-25, actually.

Question for someone with ferreting skills: has there ever been a team that had back-to-back seasons where they played over .500 ball through July 31, then under .400 the rest of the way?
   8. JJ1986 Posted: September 12, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4233335)
4 pitchers in the inning for the Dodgers so far (for 5 batters).
   9. JoeHova Posted: September 12, 2012 at 12:11 AM (#4233336)
Crazy that the Brewers are making a kind of half-hearted run at the wild card. I didn't think they had it in them. I don't think they'll get there but it's nice to see them mentioned at least.
   10. Ray (RDP) Posted: September 12, 2012 at 12:18 AM (#4233340)
#9, Phillies are pouring it on right now also.
   11. McCoy Posted: September 12, 2012 at 12:21 AM (#4233344)
Question for someone with ferreting skills: has there ever been a team that had back-to-back seasons where they played over .500 ball through July 31, then under .400 the rest of the way?

Probably 6 out of every 10 Cubs teams.
   12. Sleepy supports unauthorized rambling Posted: September 12, 2012 at 01:21 AM (#4233371)
3 errors + 8 walks + 7 hits = 4 runs. 1-14 with RISP; STL loses another one-run game. Grrrr.

Well, 2 runs. Whatever.
   13. my ignorance is just as good as your STEAGLES Posted: September 12, 2012 at 02:17 AM (#4233385)
PHI 71-71 [7-2 in SEPT] (4 GB)
i'm pretty sure that the phillies are 8-2 now in september. if they play at that pace the rest of september, they'll finish with 87 wins.
   14. SoSH U at work Posted: September 12, 2012 at 02:20 AM (#4233387)
Question for someone with ferreting skills: has there ever been a team that had back-to-back seasons where they played over .500 ball through July 31, then under .400 the rest of the way?


If you make the date Sept. 15 instead of July 1, I'm sure the 07-08 Mets qualify.

Edit: Whaddya know, you have to make it Sept. 19 for that to work.
   15. Juan V Posted: September 12, 2012 at 04:10 AM (#4233400)
Request: Could you add games behind the first wildcard spot in the wildcard races, please?
   16. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: September 12, 2012 at 07:28 AM (#4233420)
It's getting very, very interesting in unexpected ways in the Senior Circuit. Does Milwaukee regret the Greinke trade now?
   17. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 12, 2012 at 07:41 AM (#4233423)
shooty

no. segura gives the brewers more options in the infield for 2013 and allows the front office to focus almost exclusively on the pitching staff

barring fate the 2013 lineup is set save for ss where it will be either gonzalez, bianchi or segura

only now the crew can "choose" to sign alex vs "having" to sign him
   18. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 12, 2012 at 07:54 AM (#4233429)
on a separate note while i am glad to know that the crew has a chance to meet my pre-season prediction of 85 odd wins i am also sad in knowing this was likely the last gasp of a core getting old.

hart is 30. rickie will be 30 next year. aramis will be 35. aoki will be 31. as they say, a lot of tread on those tires and almost certainly 3 of those guys, ramirez/hart/aoki will see their output go down in 2013. sure braun is swell and lucroy will be 27 and may hang in there for 130 games and maybe some combo of bianchi and segura puts a charge into the bottom of the lineup. and gomez could get 550 plate appearances and hit 25 homers, steal 50 bases and win a gold glove (this last item is not completely wishcasting. he is 27 next year and playing for a contract)

but overall this is a bunch that will likely start to show its age and its not like they have been impervious to injury up to this point.

i am glad they rallied. it speaks well of them as players. but i do not pretend that this will be a springboard into next season
   19. Walt Davis Posted: September 12, 2012 at 08:50 AM (#4233467)
OK scheduling mavens ... is it possible for the Pirates to finish under 500 AND take the 2nd wild card?
   20. Joey B. Posted: September 12, 2012 at 08:58 AM (#4233472)
The Cardinals still have six left against Houston and three left against the Cubs. There's no chance.
   21. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 12, 2012 at 09:24 AM (#4233492)
joey

in these circles your post qualifies as 'pulling a ray'

or to some a 'a raydiction' or 'a raycast' as in prediction or forecast

just a heads up
   22. SoSH U at work Posted: September 12, 2012 at 09:28 AM (#4233494)

in these circles your post qualifies as 'pulling a ray'

or to some a 'a raydiction' or 'a raycast' as in prediction or forecast

just a heads up


That wasn't pulling a Ray. That was a joke about the ineptness of the Astros and Cubs.

   23. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 12, 2012 at 09:33 AM (#4233496)
it can be both. and i hold out hope that the downtrodden will throw off their shackles and rise up against the red menace

   24. Joey B. Posted: September 12, 2012 at 09:42 AM (#4233505)
in these circles your post qualifies as 'pulling a ray'

I pulled my Ray when I made my official declaration on the Dial thread three days ago that the Nationals are now a 100% lock to make the postseason.
   25. bunyon Posted: September 12, 2012 at 09:46 AM (#4233511)
2. Ray (RDP) Posted: September 11, 2012 at 11:36 PM (#4233315)
Who is shot worse? The Pirates, or Carlos Beltran?
3. Ray (RDP) Posted: September 11, 2012 at 11:41 PM (#4233318)
Beltran: .209/.251/.414 (.665) in the second half. 203 PA.

Pirates: 13-20 since August 1st.


I didn't think season splits were meaningful?
   26. JustDan Posted: September 12, 2012 at 10:33 AM (#4233595)
Magic numbers (division and playoffs)

Wash 13 7
Cin 10 9
SF 15 15
Atl - 14
   27. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: September 12, 2012 at 10:36 AM (#4233601)
I pulled my Ray


TMI, sir.
   28. Ray (RDP) Posted: September 12, 2012 at 11:06 AM (#4233648)
I didn't think season splits were meaningful?


They're not. I was basically commenting on who is playing worse right now.
   29. my ignorance is just as good as your STEAGLES Posted: September 12, 2012 at 07:30 PM (#4234267)
another win for the phillies this afternoon.
9-2 in september
18-6 in their last 24 games
7 game winning streak
6-0 on the homestand
bullpen with another 2 scoreless innings, which brings them to about 16 consecutive innings without allowing a run.


   30. JJ1986 Posted: September 12, 2012 at 08:52 PM (#4234315)
Cards down again. Everything's going to get even tighter.
   31. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 12, 2012 at 08:55 PM (#4234317)
Thank you, Padres. My son moved to SD 2 weeks ago, he must have brought good luck.
   32. Sleepy supports unauthorized rambling Posted: September 12, 2012 at 10:51 PM (#4234372)
Cards down again. Everything's going to get even tighter.


Mike Matheny ordered a bunt after a lead off double in the 9th inning, down 3-2.

The bunt was off the bat of Yadier Molina, who is being mentioned in MVP threads, has 18 home runs, an .868 OPS going into tonight, and who hits the ball the the opposite field well over 50% of the time (by this cards fans guesstimate, and eyeballing spray charts for 11 seconds).

For the series, Cards were 4 for 31 with RISP. Not sure if the stupid bunt counts (suspect not).
   33. Walt Davis Posted: September 12, 2012 at 11:00 PM (#4234377)
Not sure if the stupid bunt counts (suspect not).

If it was a successful sacrifice then no because it's not an AB ("4 for 31 with RISP" always being an AB statistic); if it just resulted in an out for Molina with no advance of the runner, then it does count.

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