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Monday, September 01, 2014

No-hitter! Four Phillies pitchers combine to blank the Braves

Jesse Spector
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Congratulations to the Phillies on filling 58 minutes of their hour-long season highlight video!

The Phillies have no-hit the Braves. It was a combined effort, with Cole Hamels, Jake Diekman, Ken Giles and Jonathan Papelbon combining on the effort. Hamels took the first six innings and each of the relievers handled an inning. They combined to strike out 12 Braves hitters… it was the 12th no-hitter in franchise history. And the first ever combined no-no for Philly…

Cole Hamels… wasn’t a study in efficiency. H threw 108 pitches and walked five guys, but no one managed a hit off of him.

The District Attorney Posted: September 01, 2014 at 04:30 PM | 27 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: braves, cole hamels, jake diekman, jonathan papelbon, ken giles, no-hitters, phillies

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   1. AndrewJ Posted: September 01, 2014 at 04:40 PM (#4783227)
Cole Hamels… wasn’t a study in efficiency.

Given the number of no-decisions and tough losses he's had this season, I'll take it.
   2. Esoteric Posted: September 01, 2014 at 04:57 PM (#4783239)
Today's game summarized why, despite the fact that Braves still seem capable of whomping the Nats for some reason this season, I'm really not afraid of losing the NL East division to them.
   3. AndrewJ Posted: September 01, 2014 at 05:02 PM (#4783246)
Always worth noting: The Phils top three starting pitchers all-time -- Alexander, Roberts and Carlton -- threw zero no-hitters between them.
   4. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: September 01, 2014 at 06:45 PM (#4783314)
It's been a mystery to me this whole season why the Braves are even a .500 team. Roger McDowell deserves a medal or something for that pitching staff.
   5. Brian White Posted: September 01, 2014 at 06:58 PM (#4783322)
Roger McDowell deserves a medal or something for that pitching staff.


He sure does. And Greg Walker probably deserves to be fired.
   6. bigglou115 Posted: September 01, 2014 at 07:03 PM (#4783326)
And Gonzalez lifts Justin Upton for Constanza. Cause why bother fighting the no hitter?
   7. Joey B. is counting the days to Trea Turner Posted: September 01, 2014 at 07:09 PM (#4783330)
I'll be damned; the Cobb County Cornpones got no-hit? I believe that drops the magic number down to 20.
   8. Jose Remains The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: September 01, 2014 at 07:51 PM (#4783341)
Combined no hitters are such a bizarre thing as a fan. I love no hitters and after getting to see the Sox win the World Series last year in person a no hitter and a triple play are pretty much the bucket list for me at this point. I'm not sure I'd want the no-no to be a combined effort though. I mean, it's great and all and the Phillies should be happy and proud but it feels a bit empty.

EDIT: Not trying to dump on the Phillies' parade. Great achievement, just talking about the fan experience as I perceive it. Any of our Phillie Phans at the game today?
   9. tfbg9 Posted: September 01, 2014 at 07:53 PM (#4783344)
Joey you better hope the Nats don't pull a 74 Sox.
   10. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: September 01, 2014 at 11:12 PM (#4783432)
Braves vs. Nats: .692 Winning Percentage
Braves vs. Everyone Else: .504 Winning Percentage.
   11. Steve N Posted: September 02, 2014 at 05:17 AM (#4783476)
Andrew J, you can also put in the Phillies 4th best pitcher, probably, Eppa Rixey.
   12. altavista Posted: September 02, 2014 at 07:02 AM (#4783481)
Jose, a combined no hitter is much more rare. So, I wouldn't worry about seeing one.
   13. AndrewJ Posted: September 02, 2014 at 07:04 AM (#4783482)
I mean, it's great and all and the Phillies should be happy and proud but it feels a bit empty.

Yes, expecially when Halladay threw a perfect game and postseason no-hitter just four years ago.

QUESTION: Would Padres fans accept a combined no-hitter as the franchise's first, after 45+ years?
   14. Yellow Tango Posted: September 02, 2014 at 07:40 AM (#4783490)
No-hitters started by Braves since 1973

Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, John Smoltz, everyone not named Kent Mercker: 0
Kent Mercker: 2

Baseball is weird.
   15. Colin Posted: September 02, 2014 at 07:58 AM (#4783492)
A no-hitter has seemed inevitable for this offense all season, it surprised me it took this long. These guys suck.
   16. altavista Posted: September 02, 2014 at 08:24 AM (#4783502)
I concur. Due to international travel, I haven't watched a lot of baseball this season. I've seen about 20 Braves games all year (way under my average) and I'm not sure I've seen them play a really good game. They win sometimes but they never look like the control a game. I mean, it's baseball, so control is probably always illusory, but I haven't seen a lopsided victory from them and have seen lopsided losses. The games they win seem like they could go either way. When they were leading the division I was, frankly, stunned, and never imagined they'd go on to win it. It's a sign of the stupidity of the (second, at least) wild card that they're still in the race.

Of course, given my predictive abilities, they'll now go on to win the World Series. I could live with it but I don't think I'd be proud of it.
   17. Joe Bivens, Floundering Pumpkin Posted: September 02, 2014 at 08:44 AM (#4783514)
Joey you better hope the Nats don't pull a 74 Sox.


78?
   18. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: September 02, 2014 at 09:34 AM (#4783535)
I had the game on TV, but the in-laws insisted on being in the kitchen instead of the living room. I thought it might be a no-hitter for a little while, because the camera kept going to Cole Hamels as he wandered around in the dugout doing nothing, but when Diekman came in that idea was obviously preposterous.

Andrew J, you can also put in the Phillies 4th best pitcher, probably, Eppa Rixey.


And the Phillies' leader in ERA, WHIP, consecutive scoreless innings, syphilis and alcoholism, George McQuillan.

Actually Eppa Rixey wasn't that great with the Phillies and spent much less time with them than he did with the Reds.

Jim Bunning might be the 4th best pitcher, and he did throw a no-hitter. By pitching WAR with the Phillies, however, he is 7th (behind also Hamels, Schilling, and the pride of Delaware, Chris Short).
   19. jdennis Posted: September 02, 2014 at 11:02 AM (#4783624)
I agree with Crispix, when I think Eppa Rixey I think Reds.

How many of these combined no-hitters were elective removal of the starter like this one? Most were rain delays, I'm sure.
   20. no STIGGLES...no STIGGLES......you're the STIGGLES Posted: September 02, 2014 at 11:15 AM (#4783640)
i didn't see anyone else mention this, but this was another daytime no hitter. has anyone actually figured out why so many no hitters occur during the day, or are we still just guessing about it?
   21. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 02, 2014 at 11:20 AM (#4783648)
has anyone actually figured out why so many no hitters occur during the day, or are we still just guessing about it?
Guessing is kind of like figuring it out.
   22. villageidiom Posted: September 02, 2014 at 12:10 PM (#4783727)
Guessing is kind of like figuring it out.
At least in the OTP thread.
   23. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: September 02, 2014 at 12:43 PM (#4783761)
A lot of the daytime no-hitters were on Sunday with half-assed starting lineups, right?

The Braves have a pretty half-assed lineup at the best of times, so starting Emilio Bonifacio and some guy named "Gosselin" yesterday instead of BJ Upton and Tommy La Stella was probably a net positive. Gerald Laird in place of Gattis, though, is quite the downgrade.
   24. flournoy Posted: September 02, 2014 at 12:51 PM (#4783765)
That is unfair. I would say the Braves have a three quarter assed starting lineup, or maybe two thirds at least.
   25. JimMusComp misses Jerry Dipoto... Posted: September 02, 2014 at 01:00 PM (#4783772)
A lot of the daytime no-hitters were on Sunday with half-assed starting lineups, right?


The Mike Witt perfect game in '84 was on the final day of the season and the Rangers had an abysmal lineup out there.

How many of these combined no-hitters were elective removal of the starter like this one?


Mark Langston and Mike Witt combined for a no-hitter early in 1990. Langston wasn't stretched out entirely and left after 7 innings.
   26. TerpNats Posted: September 02, 2014 at 01:25 PM (#4783797)
A lot of the daytime no-hitters were on Sunday with half-assed starting lineups, right?
David Cone's perfect game in 1999 (which I attended) was on a Sunday afternoon against the Montreal Expos, who had played in Baltimore the night before. (This was after the All-Star break, and there was a rare scheduling move of ending series on Saturday and starting on Sunday.)
   27. Khrushin it bro Posted: September 02, 2014 at 02:19 PM (#4783831)
Didn't see anybody else mention it but I would guess Heyward's 3 SB are a record on a team that got no-hit.

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