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Noah Syndergaard rips Mets for planning workout in Syracuse

Before they return to New York City from their spring training home in Port St. Lucie, the Mets are stopping off in Syracuse to do a bit of promoting. The organization is debuting its new Triple-A team this season in Syracuse, and they’re holding a workout there this week in an attempt to stir up interest in the new club.

Syndergaard told reporters on Sunday that he thinks the trip is a horrible idea.

“I don’t know whose idea that was, but it’s not a smart one,” Syndergaard said. “I don’t think that’s conducive for winning ballgames, really — that much travel. I mean, I’m sure the amenities in Syracuse aren’t the best for a major league baseball team to go up there and have one last workout before the regular season starts, but those kinds of decisions are above my pay grade.

 

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   1. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: March 25, 2019 at 10:41 AM (#5825051)
Still better'n Vegas...
   2. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: March 25, 2019 at 10:45 AM (#5825055)
MLB teams do stuff like this to secure good affiliates. Players ##### about it because they're minor league cities.
This is the way of the world...
   3. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 25, 2019 at 10:47 AM (#5825058)
I mean, I’m sure the amenities in Syracuse aren’t the best for a major league baseball team to go up there and have one last workout before the regular season starts,
You suffer, Noah. You truly suffer.
   4. formerly dp Posted: March 25, 2019 at 10:49 AM (#5825061)
Still better'n Vegas...
Or Utica...
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 25, 2019 at 10:53 AM (#5825064)
MLB teams do stuff like this to secure good affiliates. Players ##### about it because they're minor league cities.
This is the way of the world...


The issue is not going to Syracuse, it's the way the Mets crammed this into the schedule. The workout is on Tuesday, and they open Thursday at 1PM in NY.

If the Mets had wanted to, play an exhibition game in Syracuse Sunday, then go home. Give your players a couple of days at least to settle in.
   6. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: March 25, 2019 at 10:57 AM (#5825066)
The issue is not going to Syracuse, it's the way the Mets crammed this into the schedule. The workout is on Tuesday, and they open Thursday at 1PM in NY.


Even better: they open in DC.

Home opener isn't until April 4.
   7. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 25, 2019 at 11:00 AM (#5825069)
Even better: they open in DC.

Ugh. So, Tuesday in Syracuse, one night at home, and an early flight to DC. Yeah, I'd be pissed if I were a Met player.

Why didn't they just play the weekend series in Syracuse?
   8. Lassus Posted: March 25, 2019 at 01:41 PM (#5825124)
I ####### love this story. I am subscribing to Noah's newsletter.


The issue is not going to Syracuse, it's the way the Mets crammed this into the schedule.

Maybe right now, but they haven't been to Syracuse yet, so let's not count that out. Low on Tuesday is 20. Although it's too bad they won't be there Saturday, when the forecast is for snow and rain, both.


Players ##### about it because they're minor league cities."

Heh. That's... overselling it.


Did I mention I love this story?
   9. SoSH U at work Posted: March 25, 2019 at 02:15 PM (#5825139)
Why didn't they just play the weekend series in Syracuse?


I don't think a series in Syracuse in late March would make them happier.

   10. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 25, 2019 at 02:22 PM (#5825142)
I don't think a series in Syracuse in late March would make them happier.

In the Carrier Dome? Weather shouldn't be a problem. I thought this whole thing was going on indoors.
   11. SoSH U at work Posted: March 25, 2019 at 02:29 PM (#5825148)
I thought this whole thing was going on indoors.


I figured this was going on where they're going to play their games.

Edit: It looks like the event is scheduled for the Dome, but it doesn't look like any baseball games have ever been played there.
   12. formerly dp Posted: March 25, 2019 at 02:34 PM (#5825154)
Edit: It looks like the event is scheduled for the Dome, but it doesn't look like any baseball games have ever been played there.

Seems like the perfect environment for these dudes to get a final test run in before the start of the regular season. It's the Mets, what could possibly go wrong?
   13. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 25, 2019 at 02:34 PM (#5825155)
I figured this was going on where they're going to play their games.

Edit: It looks like the event is scheduled for the Dome, but it doesn't look like any baseball games have ever been played there.


My line of thinking is entirely predicated on their ability to play the games indoors. Planning any baseball activity outside in March, in Syracuse is insane.

What's the point of the workout anyway? Do they think people are actually going to show up to watch coaches hit fungos?
   14. SoSH U at work Posted: March 25, 2019 at 02:37 PM (#5825158)
My line of thinking is entirely predicated on their ability to play the games indoors. Planning any baseball activity outside in March, in Syracuse is insane.


Can the dome be configured to host baseball? Not every one of them can.
   15. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 25, 2019 at 02:40 PM (#5825159)
Can the dome be configured to host baseball? Not every one of them can.

As long as you don't care about the game being competitive, why couldn't they? Who care if the RF fence is 250 feet away in an exhibition.
   16. RoyalFlush Posted: March 25, 2019 at 02:51 PM (#5825165)
As long as you don't care about the game being competitive, why couldn't they? Who care if the RF fence is 250 feet away in an exhibition.


Would they have the turf for it? With baseline cutouts, etc? That may be where they have to draw the line - no infield dirt.
   17. Spahn Insane Posted: March 25, 2019 at 02:51 PM (#5825166)
In the Carrier Dome? Weather shouldn't be a problem. I thought this whole thing was going on indoors.

There's no way you could configure the Carrier Dome seating to make it suitable for baseball. (MAYBE if you go the "250-ft RF line" route. Maybe.) I'm just minds-eyeballing what I remember from 25 years ago, but there's not a lot of movable seating there--temporary bleachers are brought in for basketball games so the seating encircles the whole court, and for concerts they do similar stuff with temporary bleachers, but the main seating bowl used for football is pretty inflexible. For basketball/concerts, they add onto the permanent football grandstand; they don't move it around.

Also, there's the matter of the artificial surface, which probably isn't a great fit for baseball.
   18. Spahn Insane Posted: March 25, 2019 at 03:00 PM (#5825170)
I've always been amused that an indoor stadium named for the world's leading manufacturer of air conditioners isn't air conditioned. (Yeah, it's Syracuse, but even there it could get uncomfortably stuffy during early fall football games.)
   19. Howie Menckel Posted: March 25, 2019 at 03:15 PM (#5825178)
"Before they return to New York City from their spring training home in Port St. Lucie, the Mets are stopping off in Syracuse to do a bit of promoting."

too bad the Mets MIGHT be good, which ruins the old "Geesh, haven't the poor bastards who live in Syracuse already suffered enough?" bit.

   20. Omineca Greg Posted: March 25, 2019 at 03:23 PM (#5825180)
I don't know, I understand that it's tough on the players, especially travelling so far so quickly, that can be hard on you.

But it's Syracuse we're talking about here! There was a time when it was really important to the League, and I think showing some respect to that history is in order. I think maybe it's difficult for today's players to understand how chaotic things were back then, with the competing leagues and such, and how challenging it was for some places, and Syracuse immediately comes to mind,

The Peloponnesian League, the Delian League, you don't hear much about them these days, but trust me, they both used to be big deals. Syracuse backed the Peloponnesian League, and if that hadn't worked out, their leaders could have ended up in Attica, and believe me, that's not where you want to go.

And all the byzantine rules they had to put up with! Things are so much better now. And the vandals, you think your city has bad vandalism, you should have seen Syracuse. There was even a time they turned to Bourbon [rule by alcoholics] government. That's desperation right there.

So I think Noah should be more understanding, and quit worrying about how hard he's getting ###### over for just a couple of days. In Syracuse, they started getting screwed a long time ago, and once it started, it never really stopped.
   21. Adam Starblind Posted: March 25, 2019 at 03:45 PM (#5825191)
Noah's other grievance is that they've not extended deGrom. Shouldn't they just give deGrom Sale's contract and move on?
   22. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 25, 2019 at 04:54 PM (#5825201)
It's a two-hour workout in the afternoon, not a game. Isn't Syracuse pretty close to NYC? Seems like you can go to the workout and still be in your NYC pad by that evening, and still not leave for DC until Wednesday?
   23. Howie Menckel Posted: March 25, 2019 at 05:02 PM (#5825204)
Isn't Syracuse pretty close to NYC?

is 260 miles close?
   24. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 25, 2019 at 05:03 PM (#5825205)
It's a two-hour workout in the afternoon, not a game. Isn't Syracuse pretty close to NYC? Seems like you can go to the workout and still be in your NYC pad by that evening, and still not leave for DC until Wednesday?

Not really. You're talking 4-5 hours by car. Gotta be 3.5 hours by plane; just getting from the airport to you apartment or house is going to take 1.5 hours at rush hour.

If you left Syracuse at 4PM, it's hard to see you getting home before 8.
   25. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 25, 2019 at 05:08 PM (#5825210)

If you left Syracuse at 4PM, it's hard to see you getting home before 8.


And? He's sleeping in his own bed that night. I get that he's been in Florida for six weeks and wants to get home, but this seems like a mild inconvenience and to take the grievance public seems whiny to me.
   26. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 25, 2019 at 05:10 PM (#5825212)

is 260 miles close?


My wife and I were planning our summer trip and we were thinking about the East Coast. I told my wife that Maine was an hour drive from Boston and she had to look on a map before should would believe me. I think Midwesterners forget how close everything is on the East Coast and maybe East Coasters forget how spread out everything is in the South and Midwest. So in other words, no, 260 miles is nothing to us!
   27. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: March 25, 2019 at 05:20 PM (#5825216)
   28. Omineca Greg Posted: March 25, 2019 at 05:45 PM (#5825219)
I like these two from Queensland:

First sign

And then when you finally get to Normanton:

There's the gas station
   29. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: March 25, 2019 at 06:44 PM (#5825224)
260 miles is nothing. It's 4 hours by car, get the f*ck over it. You'll be in your own bed by 9:00 pm. These guys are mostly under 35. Who under the age of 35 is going to bed before 10 pm anyway.
He comes across as overtly precious and a big baby.
I grew up in California and have lived in Sydney for 30 years. Driving 4-6 hours is nothing and I'm sure Noah drives a much nicer car then the piece of cr*p Datsun B210 I used to drive in high school from LA to the Bay area to see a good punk concert like the DKs.

And yeah, I think people will come out to watch the Mets hit fungoes for 2 hours. If you're living in Syracuse and have a chance to see the big league team for a few bucks, it'd be a great way to spend a couple of hours, having a dog and coke and watching the team go through it's paces.
   30. Ziggy's screen name Posted: March 25, 2019 at 07:08 PM (#5825226)
In the Carrier Dome


Oh hell, now we have to rename stadiums in minor league cities too.

I nominate 'The Sicilian Amphitheater' but YMMV. And you might think that 260 miles isn't too bad, but when you consider that they're traveling by trireme...
   31. Lassus Posted: March 25, 2019 at 07:49 PM (#5825232)
Per Google and my own travels its 4 hours. Rush hour isn't as bad as it is for Snapper and the tri-state when you're coming direct east through Jersey.
   32. Walt Davis Posted: March 25, 2019 at 07:57 PM (#5825234)
maybe East Coasters forget how spread out everything is in the South and Midwest

Forget?

I like these two from Queensland:

For you metrically challenged Americans, that's 350 miles.

I'm sure somewhere in Australia there's got to be a sign that says "next petrol 560 km" ... you look at your gauge and decide you might not make so turn around to see "next petrol 560 km."

There were two times in NZ. First one I'd almost forgotten that small towns close up at 5, remembered just in time, checked my tank, panicked a bit, but saw the "petrol station next town" sign, pulled in ... "oh, that station went out of business a couple of years ago." Nearest station that was open after 5 was about 50 miles back the way I'd come (not a big issue in this case), figured I had just enough to make it ... and just did.

The second was driving with some friends to Cape Reinga (very top of N Island). You get to the bottom of the peninsula and sign warns you next petrol is in Cape Reinga (about 50 miles again I think). OK, no problem. Get there, no fuel. Station owner was "nice" enough to sell us a few litres at a nutty price out of what he'd held back for his personal use.

Rule in NZ -- just don't let the tank get below 1/4.
   33. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 25, 2019 at 08:04 PM (#5825237)
It’s a ~ 90 minute flight from Syracuse to NYC, and I’m pretty sure the Mets would rate a police escort to get to the Syracuse airport. Much whining about nothing.
   34. Cris E Posted: March 25, 2019 at 08:40 PM (#5825246)
Don't piss off the locals Noah, that's where you're doing your rehab starts this year.
   35. Tin Angel Posted: March 25, 2019 at 09:06 PM (#5825248)
Mike Puma @NYPost_Mets

Report I am getting from the Mets plane: Lots of guys pissed off. The delay has been 3.5 hours. Will be landing in Syracuse close to midnight.
   36. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: March 25, 2019 at 09:12 PM (#5825249)
#26 is right. Most of my life in the 'midwest', and my cut off for driving for work purposes (my policy not my employer) is about 400 miles. I drive 250-300 mile runs fairly regularly. It's nothing. I might not do same day trips (back and forth) anymore but it's better than flying those routes, many of which don't offer non-stops for me to begin with, which makes driving to MKE, St Louis, Nashville, Detroit, Columbus, Pittsburgh etc. a no brainer.. Hell, there isn't any scenario where I'd fly to Chicago (185 miles to Indy). 25 min ride for me SW to airport, shuffle through airport, board, fly to ORD or MDW, then commute to wherever. Near zero chance I get there via plane faster than my car. I'd fly to MSP, Omaha, OKC, KC, pretty much drive everywhere else in the 'midwest' I'm not sure I want to do the 1,000 mile drives by myself that I once did, but 750 is still in the cards, I usually hit Hilton Head in one day. That's a comp of IND to OKC, or about 720 miles IND to NYC.

Heh, no Carrier Dome A/C. I was at that '84 game when they upset #1 Nebraska, we often talk about how hot and stuffy that place was.
   37. Howie Menckel Posted: March 25, 2019 at 09:31 PM (#5825257)
it's really a question of traffic.

I'd rather drive from North Jersey to Chicago - have done so dozens of times - than to Long Island in the summer.

Pittsburgh is six hours, I drove that. anywhere from Maine to DC is definitely a drive, and west to Chicago.
   38. Lassus Posted: March 26, 2019 at 06:35 AM (#5825284)
Report I am getting from the Mets plane: Lots of guys pissed off. The delay has been 3.5 hours. Will be landing in Syracuse close to midnight.

I fully understand not wanting to go to Syracuse, but I am a person who has flown plenty - multiple times a year, if not a TRUE business traveler - and who would also wish everyone on Earth would stop ####### whining about flight delays.
   39. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 26, 2019 at 07:39 AM (#5825286)
I fully understand not wanting to go to Syracuse, but I am a person who has flown plenty - multiple times a year, if not a TRUE business traveler - and who would also wish everyone on Earth would stop ####### whining about flight delays.


It was an on tarmac delay. I agree that people complain a lot about flight delays (I do it all the time!) but this was an on tarmac delay. On tarmac delays are the ####### worst, and there's a reason why people pushed for being allowed off the plane on long delays and being given food and water during those same delays.

Noah's other grievance is that they've not extended deGrom. Shouldn't they just give deGrom Sale's contract and move on?


Yes, please! 5/145m starting next year for deGrom should make everyone happy.

So I think Noah should be more understanding, and quit worrying about how hard he's getting ###### over for just a couple of days. In Syracuse, they started getting screwed a long time ago, and once it started, it never really stopped.


I love you, OG.
   40. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 26, 2019 at 07:44 AM (#5825287)
who would also wish everyone on Earth would stop ####### whining about flight delays.
Or, alternatively, the airlines could start treating their customers with at least a bare minimum of human decency.
   41. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 26, 2019 at 07:59 AM (#5825289)
There's a huge difference between an on tarmac delay and a regular flight delay. The latter sucks, but at least the airlines I've flown with in the last decade have been good about getting you to your final location and figuring out how to solve your missed connection issues. The former is hell on earth.
   42. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 26, 2019 at 07:38 PM (#5825596)
Syndergaard surrenders, waves the orange flag.
   43. Howie Menckel Posted: March 26, 2019 at 08:36 PM (#5825608)
I once had a Newark to Fort Lauderdale flight on Carnival Airlines (yeah, the cruise people) in the winter.

9 am flight, but icy conditions so of course delays. we sit in the waiting area for 3 hours because, they tell us, they don't want us cooped up on the plane. ok, we all get that.

we board at noon and get out on the tarmac - where we wait for FIVE HOURS.

so they finally get us off the ground and around 5:30 pm, they start serving meals.

yeah, it's breakfast.

I thought it was kind of funny, but the flight attendant wasn't having it.

now I feel a little bad, because one of my nieces is a flight attendant.

I had a 7 am return flight (no cruise for me; business), so I spent not even 12 hours in Florida - while my door-to-door adventure to get there was just as long.

oh, and 42 is classic Thor. he's a free spirit.

in Times Square, there is an odd tourist trap zone where people dress as comic book characters to finagle loose change out of those tourists in exchange for photos.
I think it was 2 years ago that the Mets channel got Noah to dress in full Thor regalia and walk around as one of those characters.

given the ethnicity of most of the faux superheroes, Noah towered above all the Thors - and really all the 'superheroes.' then again, even the locals figured it couldn't actually BE Noah Syndergaard.

he's pretty droll on Twitter as well.
   44. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 26, 2019 at 11:22 PM (#5825635)
I'm a huge fan of Syndergaard on twitter. While he was waiting on the tarmac he responded to a question asking whether he'd rather get a beer with Mike Francesca or his mortal enemy Mr. Met and replied "trade me."
   45. Tony S Posted: March 27, 2019 at 08:18 AM (#5825660)
About twenty years ago me and a few co-workers took a business trip to Ottawa. We're in the DC area (I lived north of Baltimore at the time). I opted to drive. They flew.

Oddly enough, there were no direct flights between the two national capitals at the time. (Maybe there still aren't; I don't know.) So they had to change planes in Philly.

We left our homes around the same time.

I beat them to Ottawa by an hour.

If it's east of the Mississippi, I'll drive every time.
   46. Swoboda is freedom Posted: March 27, 2019 at 10:58 AM (#5825692)
If it's east of the Mississippi, I'll drive every time.


Not me. I hate to drive. You have to concentrate on the drive. On the flight, you can read, watch a movie, nap. Plus the airplane is safer.
   47. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: March 27, 2019 at 12:23 PM (#5825719)
If you're in the northeastern corridor I'd recommend the train, frankly.
   48. Hysterical & Useless Posted: March 27, 2019 at 12:38 PM (#5825725)
the piece of cr*p Datsun B210


Hey, not fair! First car my wife & I owned together was a '78 B210. It lasted us 14 years, and we only gave it up then because we took it in for the annual inspection and found that the frame had cracked (so it failed! who woulda thunk it?). Was still getting near to 40 mpg on our last trip to & from Wisconsin. Our kids were so sad to see it go (which goes to show how adaptable kids are, the back seat was really small and extremely uncomfortable).

Yes, an extremely inexpensive car, but better than most anything else in it's price range (ie, the "piece of crap" range).

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