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Noble: McCarver, a great voice for baseball, will be missed

“Delicious strawberry-flavored death!”

All that stuff stinks. But I could better tolerate such erosion if it didn’t coincide with the continuing loss of my heroes and personal icons. Time has taken Mickey, Cronkite, Carson, DeBusschere, Orbison and the great Bob Sheppard; Stan Laurel, Oliver Hardy and the Great One, Mr. Gleason; Ray Charles, Johnny Maestro and Vada Pinson. And Lou Grant, Andy Sipowicz and Big Dan Ingrahm have retired. There isn’t enough Willis Reed and Elgin Baylor to suit me. And now McCarver says he’s got one more season in him before he yanks his earpiece for the last time.

In my 5 1/2 decades of obsessive baseball monitoring, I’ve reached these conclusions about the guys in the booth—Vin Scully is the most entertaining/knowledgeable color or play-by-play man, and Tim McCarver is No. 2, not far behind. These are not unpopular views.

...But now in the same year Mariano Rivera is preparing to wrap it up, Timmy is too. And how many more times can we count on Scully saying “One more year”? The game will be diminished by the absence of any one of the three. Three of them leaving at one time is likely to cause a baseball sinkhole.

I’ve never heard enough Scully, though these days, the network folks routinely provide priceless snippets of his genius. McCarver’s years working Mets and Yankees games were treasures I was pleased to experience. He was funny, knowledgeable, objective, insightful and passionate, traits that he has brought to his network telecasts and his own syndicated show. Timmy has taken his share of measured swings at the strategies implemented by the men in the dugout. But that’s how he sees his job. And so often he is proven prescient. Whoever called him an accomplished first guesser had it right.

...If his final public words come in the last game of the next World Series, may they come in the 14th inning of the seventh game after a much-analyzed play has decided the eventual outcome. I always want as much as I can get from him.

Repoz Posted: March 28, 2013 at 05:11 AM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Evensen Posted: March 28, 2013 at 07:19 AM (#4398195)
Comparing McCarver favorably to Scully? I want to throw up now.
   2. Rants Mulliniks Posted: March 28, 2013 at 07:38 AM (#4398198)
Vin Scully is the most entertaining/knowledgeable color or play-by-play man, and Tim McCarver is No. 2, not far behind. These are not unpopular views.


Yeah, this guy was not thinking of BBTF or any other fans with half a brain when he wrote this. McCarver does have a great voice and he doesn't take himself too seriously, but I don't think he's brought any insight to a broadcast in 20 years.
   3. RMc's Unenviable Situation Posted: March 28, 2013 at 07:43 AM (#4398200)
All that stuff stinks.

What is "Joe Buck and Tim McCarver's broadcasting careers in four words", Alex?
   4. Drexl Spivey Posted: March 28, 2013 at 08:14 AM (#4398207)
The headline made me think that the guy died.
   5. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: March 28, 2013 at 09:49 AM (#4398297)
No, no he won't.
   6. Publius Publicola Posted: March 28, 2013 at 09:51 AM (#4398303)
I think you all misunderstand. The headline says the "voice" will be missed. It doesn't say anything about what that voice is actually saying.
   7. villageidiom Posted: March 28, 2013 at 10:40 AM (#4398355)
Yeah, this guy was not thinking of BBTF or any other fans with half a brain when he wrote this. McCarver does have a great voice and he doesn't take himself too seriously, but I don't think he's brought any insight to a broadcast in 20 years.

With my son I watched a DVD of the last game of the 1993 World Series a couple of months ago, and was impressed by McCarver. He was knowledgeable and knew just when to share the right knowledge.

I think McCarver today vs. McCarver back then is a lot like Gammons today vs. Gammons long ago. From the former, one can't comprehend the latter was possible.

   8. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: March 28, 2013 at 01:43 PM (#4398547)
Tim McCarver is only despised because of his ubiquity. If he was off doing broadcasts for the Mariners or the Phillies, or if postseason coverage still featured 6-10 rotating announcers among rotating networks, there'd be no backlash.

And as noted, McCarver used to be top notch-- and even today, he's still no worse than notch.
   9. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: March 28, 2013 at 02:32 PM (#4398600)
It doesn't say anything about what that voice is actually saying.

True, his voice is generally fine. The words he forms with the voice is where we run into trouble.

Tim McCarver is only despised because of his ubiquity. If he was off doing broadcasts for the Mariners or the Phillies, or if postseason coverage still featured 6-10 rotating announcers among rotating networks, there'd be no backlash.

Awesome point. I only hate listening to him because I have to listen to him. If I didn't listen to him, I wouldn't mind listening to him nearly as much.

I listen to Vin Scully every day and I don't hate him. Why? Because he's good at his job.
   10. geonose Posted: March 28, 2013 at 03:41 PM (#4398640)
McCarver does have a great voice

Really??? Ugh. That's the main thing that I can't stand about him. That accent just grates on my nerves.
   11. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: March 28, 2013 at 03:41 PM (#4398642)
Awesome point. I only hate listening to him because I have to listen to him. If I didn't listen to him, I wouldn't mind listening to him nearly as much.


I'd like to hear McCarver's analysis of this.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: March 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM (#4398933)
I'd like to hear McCarver's analysis of this.

Y'know, once Hal Lanier didn't listen to Bob Gibson. Gibson was telling Lanier his shoe was untied but Lanier wouldn't listen to him. Gibby put one in his ear and Lanier always made sure to listen after that.

Now Lefty, Steve Carlton, he was a quiet guy, didn't talk much. So when he said something, you listened. Of course he coulda told you the slider was coming and you still couldn't hit it.
   13. Drexl Spivey Posted: March 29, 2013 at 01:43 AM (#4398939)
Y'know, once Hal Lanier didn't listen to Bob Gibson. Gibson was telling Lanier his shoe was untied but Lanier wouldn't listen to him. Gibby put one in his ear and Lanier always made sure to listen after that.


This reminds me of one of my favorite Bob Uecker lines.

Tim McCarver was catching a struggling Gibson and decided to make a trip to the mound. Gibson said "What are you doing here? The only thing thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it."

Uecker heard about this. The next time Uecker caught Gibson, he made a trip to the mound. When Gibson said "What are you doing here?" Uecker replied "Nothing. I'm on my way to centerfield to talk to Curt Flood."
   14. Drexl Spivey Posted: March 29, 2013 at 04:38 AM (#4398950)
While trying to source my post on #15, I found this great Harry Carey story (starting at 1:10 of the video). It is NSFW due to language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OFSlL1W4q4
   15. RMc's Unenviable Situation Posted: March 29, 2013 at 09:58 AM (#4399026)
Tim McCarver was catching a struggling Gibson and decided to make a trip to the mound. Gibson said "What are you doing here? The only thing thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it."

I never believe these stories. You just can't be that angry and that glib at the same time.
   16. Drexl Spivey Posted: March 29, 2013 at 06:21 PM (#4399359)
I never believe these stories. You just can't be that angry and that glib at the same time.


Are you at all familiar with Bob Gibson?

And seriously, someone here needs to hear this youtube clip (starting at the 1:10 mark).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OFSlL1W4q4

It's about Bob Uecker playing a prank on a drunk Harry Carey.
   17. Bourbon Samurai, what price fettucine? Posted: March 29, 2013 at 07:49 PM (#4399404)
I never believe these stories. You just can't be that angry and that glib at the same time.


Eh, I'll buy it. It's the kind of thing where the guy comes out, you say "hey #### YOU!" and then you think, "oh man, what I should've said was..." and then you've got it in your back pocket for next time.

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