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Thursday, August 16, 2012

NPB executives to discuss WBC strategy

Executives from Nippon Professional Baseball’s 12 teams will meet on Aug. 20 to discuss strategy regarding how to persuade NPB’s players union to participate in the 2013 World Baseball Classic, it was learned Wednesday.
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NPB agreed last year to join the 2013 competition, won by Japan both times it has been held in 2006 and 2009. The players union, however, voted on July 20 not to participate unless its demands that NPB is given the rights to the sponsorship and licensing revenues its participation generates are met. Currently, sponsorship and licensing revenues are pooled and divided among participating nations by the tournament’s organizing body, WBC Inc.

Tournament organizers, however, rejected Japan’s latest demands, saying the issue needs to be resolved between NPB and the union.

“There is no change to the current severe conditions,” Shimada said.

Gamingboy Posted: August 16, 2012 at 06:20 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Erix Posted: August 16, 2012 at 09:11 PM (#4210075)
This has the potential to be very bad, does it not?
   2. bigglou115 Posted: August 16, 2012 at 09:21 PM (#4210081)
This has the potential to be very bad, does it not?


Define bad.

The WBC losing all credibility because it's only champion refuses to compete?

or

The WBC losing all credibility because the poorer countries have no incentive to come because Japan gets too big a piece of the financial pie?
   3. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 16, 2012 at 10:00 PM (#4210114)
Anyone know how the revenue is divided and what the players make? I suspect the Japanese are doing better than some but not as well as MLB and the MLB players.
   4. madvillain Posted: August 16, 2012 at 10:02 PM (#4210117)
The WBC losing all credibility because it's only champion refuses to compete?


You have to have credibility in order to lose it. The WBC is just a fun little "bragging rights" tourney that doesn't mean squat in the long run. Let Japan bring in scabs, who really cares? It's not like the countries make an ball-to-the-wall effort to put the best teams on the field anyway. I mean, any tourney in which Mike Piazza can play for Italy seems a little absurd.
   5. bigglou115 Posted: August 16, 2012 at 10:16 PM (#4210126)
You have to have credibility in order to lose it. The WBC is just a fun little "bragging rights" tourney that doesn't mean squat in the long run. Let Japan bring in scabs, who really cares? It's not like the countries make an ball-to-the-wall effort to put the best teams on the field anyway. I mean, any tourney in which Mike Piazza can play for Italy seems a little absurd


Yeah, but MLB seems to be putting its eggs in the WBC basket now that it looks like baseball's removal from the Olympics is going to stick. There's a lot of theoretical money to make here.
   6. Tripon Posted: August 16, 2012 at 10:19 PM (#4210128)
If Japan's out, Korea is going to win it all baby!
   7. Walt Davis Posted: August 17, 2012 at 01:18 AM (#4210197)
This redistribution of wealth is trickier than I thought!
   8. vortex of dissipation Posted: August 17, 2012 at 01:28 AM (#4210202)
It's not like the countries make an ball-to-the-wall effort to put the best teams on the field anyway.


One country clearly has done so both times the WBC has been played. And it won both times...
   9. madvillain Posted: August 17, 2012 at 03:09 AM (#4210221)

One country clearly has done so both times the WBC has been played. And it won both times...


True. Japan has everything to lose here and nothing to gain. In other words, they have no leverage. The WBC is going to exist and be profitable with or without Japan's best. Of course they're not going to budge. This is a Japanese pro ball issue, it's that simple.
   10. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: August 17, 2012 at 04:01 AM (#4210226)
If Japan can't field a real team, they don't get a chance to threepeat. I'm looking forward to the WBC next spring, the second time around players took it more seriously.
   11. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: August 17, 2012 at 09:13 AM (#4210263)
The WBC is awesome and will only get better as the years pass and it builds a reputation. The USA players definitely wanted to win last year: just look at their celebration after knocking off Puerto Rico. Or look at the national humiliation of the DR. People are taking it seriously already.
   12. Nasty Nate Posted: August 17, 2012 at 10:41 AM (#4210335)
The WBC is just a fun little "bragging rights" tourney that doesn't mean squat in the long run.


How can you be so sure when the "long run" in this context hasn't even begun yet.
   13. Gamingboy Posted: August 17, 2012 at 10:55 AM (#4210354)
The thing with the WBC is that with the past two tournaments, they both were big successes, and everyone who actually watched them enjoyed them. Yeah, neither of them were perfect, and the pitchers often had down seasons after it, but overall, at the end of both tourneys most people had nice things to say.

And yet, then, by the time the next one comes around, almost everybody is complaining about it again like it's the first time it's ever happening. Even the Americans that did show up, as WJ pointed out, were big into it. Certainly not to the extent the Japanese and the Caribbean teams were (they weren't hiding injuries and playing through them like Matsuzaka was) but it's not like they were just there for appearances. The celebration after David Wright's walk-off win against Puerto Rico was genuine.

I personally think eventually Japan WILL take part, either through the NPB giving up some of it's money to the player's association as essentially a bribe, or perhaps because of public pressure/national pride. In the end, something is going to get done.

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