Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Thursday, August 16, 2012

NPB executives to discuss WBC strategy

Executives from Nippon Professional Baseball’s 12 teams will meet on Aug. 20 to discuss strategy regarding how to persuade NPB’s players union to participate in the 2013 World Baseball Classic, it was learned Wednesday.
....
NPB agreed last year to join the 2013 competition, won by Japan both times it has been held in 2006 and 2009. The players union, however, voted on July 20 not to participate unless its demands that NPB is given the rights to the sponsorship and licensing revenues its participation generates are met. Currently, sponsorship and licensing revenues are pooled and divided among participating nations by the tournament’s organizing body, WBC Inc.

Tournament organizers, however, rejected Japan’s latest demands, saying the issue needs to be resolved between NPB and the union.

“There is no change to the current severe conditions,” Shimada said.

Gamingboy Posted: August 16, 2012 at 06:20 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: japan, wbc, world baseball classic

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Erix Posted: August 16, 2012 at 09:11 PM (#4210075)
This has the potential to be very bad, does it not?
   2. bigglou115 is not an Illuminati agent Posted: August 16, 2012 at 09:21 PM (#4210081)
This has the potential to be very bad, does it not?


Define bad.

The WBC losing all credibility because it's only champion refuses to compete?

or

The WBC losing all credibility because the poorer countries have no incentive to come because Japan gets too big a piece of the financial pie?
   3. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 16, 2012 at 10:00 PM (#4210114)
Anyone know how the revenue is divided and what the players make? I suspect the Japanese are doing better than some but not as well as MLB and the MLB players.
   4. madvillain Posted: August 16, 2012 at 10:02 PM (#4210117)
The WBC losing all credibility because it's only champion refuses to compete?


You have to have credibility in order to lose it. The WBC is just a fun little "bragging rights" tourney that doesn't mean squat in the long run. Let Japan bring in scabs, who really cares? It's not like the countries make an ball-to-the-wall effort to put the best teams on the field anyway. I mean, any tourney in which Mike Piazza can play for Italy seems a little absurd.
   5. bigglou115 is not an Illuminati agent Posted: August 16, 2012 at 10:16 PM (#4210126)
You have to have credibility in order to lose it. The WBC is just a fun little "bragging rights" tourney that doesn't mean squat in the long run. Let Japan bring in scabs, who really cares? It's not like the countries make an ball-to-the-wall effort to put the best teams on the field anyway. I mean, any tourney in which Mike Piazza can play for Italy seems a little absurd


Yeah, but MLB seems to be putting its eggs in the WBC basket now that it looks like baseball's removal from the Olympics is going to stick. There's a lot of theoretical money to make here.
   6. Tripon Posted: August 16, 2012 at 10:19 PM (#4210128)
If Japan's out, Korea is going to win it all baby!
   7. Walt Davis Posted: August 17, 2012 at 01:18 AM (#4210197)
This redistribution of wealth is trickier than I thought!
   8. vortex of dissipation Posted: August 17, 2012 at 01:28 AM (#4210202)
It's not like the countries make an ball-to-the-wall effort to put the best teams on the field anyway.


One country clearly has done so both times the WBC has been played. And it won both times...
   9. madvillain Posted: August 17, 2012 at 03:09 AM (#4210221)

One country clearly has done so both times the WBC has been played. And it won both times...


True. Japan has everything to lose here and nothing to gain. In other words, they have no leverage. The WBC is going to exist and be profitable with or without Japan's best. Of course they're not going to budge. This is a Japanese pro ball issue, it's that simple.
   10. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: August 17, 2012 at 04:01 AM (#4210226)
If Japan can't field a real team, they don't get a chance to threepeat. I'm looking forward to the WBC next spring, the second time around players took it more seriously.
   11. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: August 17, 2012 at 09:13 AM (#4210263)
The WBC is awesome and will only get better as the years pass and it builds a reputation. The USA players definitely wanted to win last year: just look at their celebration after knocking off Puerto Rico. Or look at the national humiliation of the DR. People are taking it seriously already.
   12. Nasty Nate Posted: August 17, 2012 at 10:41 AM (#4210335)
The WBC is just a fun little "bragging rights" tourney that doesn't mean squat in the long run.


How can you be so sure when the "long run" in this context hasn't even begun yet.
   13. Gamingboy Posted: August 17, 2012 at 10:55 AM (#4210354)
The thing with the WBC is that with the past two tournaments, they both were big successes, and everyone who actually watched them enjoyed them. Yeah, neither of them were perfect, and the pitchers often had down seasons after it, but overall, at the end of both tourneys most people had nice things to say.

And yet, then, by the time the next one comes around, almost everybody is complaining about it again like it's the first time it's ever happening. Even the Americans that did show up, as WJ pointed out, were big into it. Certainly not to the extent the Japanese and the Caribbean teams were (they weren't hiding injuries and playing through them like Matsuzaka was) but it's not like they were just there for appearances. The celebration after David Wright's walk-off win against Puerto Rico was genuine.

I personally think eventually Japan WILL take part, either through the NPB giving up some of it's money to the player's association as essentially a bribe, or perhaps because of public pressure/national pride. In the end, something is going to get done.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
cardsfanboy
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogNLCS Game 5 OMNICHATTER, for October 19, 2017
(273 - 12:59am, Oct 20)
Last: Meatwad in 7

NewsblogOTP 16 October 2017: Sorry, Yankee fans: Trump’s claim that he can ensure victory simply isn’t true
(1440 - 12:56am, Oct 20)
Last: Gonfalon Bubble

NewsblogDeadspin: Please Enjoy(?) 21 Years Of Joe Buck Hyping Forgotten Fox Shows
(10 - 12:50am, Oct 20)
Last: Chicago Joe

NewsblogOT - NBA 2017-2018 Tip-off Thread
(375 - 12:48am, Oct 20)
Last: Chicago Joe

NewsblogOT - 2017 NFL thread
(144 - 12:43am, Oct 20)
Last: Ray (RDP)

Sox TherapyQuestioning the Winter
(8 - 12:40am, Oct 20)
Last: Dr. Vaux

NewsblogYankees Thumbs Down Guy is now getting his own bobblehead
(6 - 11:10pm, Oct 19)
Last: ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

NewsblogDo the Cubs realize how badly the Dodgers insulted them on national TV? - Chicago Tribune
(37 - 10:20pm, Oct 19)
Last: Optimistic Moses Taylor, optimist

NewsblogTV Simpsons documentary about 'Homer at the Bat' episode to air Sunday
(18 - 8:51pm, Oct 19)
Last: Lassus

NewsblogALCS Notebook: Cashman on Yankee Analytics, Luhnow on Hiring Hinch | FanGraphs Baseball
(19 - 8:45pm, Oct 19)
Last: jmurph

NewsblogCubs hold off Dodgers in Game 4 of NLCS | MLB.com
(35 - 6:33pm, Oct 19)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogYankees, Masahiro Tanaka take 3-2 ALCS lead | MLB.com
(7 - 6:30pm, Oct 19)
Last: Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB)

NewsblogOT: New Season August 2017 Soccer Thread
(1170 - 6:29pm, Oct 19)
Last: Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB)

NewsblogDallas Keuchel embraces the ‘calmness’ of being Yankees killer | New York Post
(66 - 5:01pm, Oct 19)
Last: Satan Says

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 10-19-2017
(16 - 4:44pm, Oct 19)
Last: What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face?

Page rendered in 0.1806 seconds
48 querie(s) executed