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N.Y. Daily News: Feinsand: Kei Igawa is completely clueless

Yes…but what about Feinsand?

Who knew that Kei Igawa was Japanese for Esteban Loaiza?

I never thought I would meet a pitcher more delusional than Loaiza, who would routinely tell us after his starts how well he thought he pitched. I remember one game when he gave up six runs in five innings, all of the runs coming on four homers. He said to us, “I pitched very well, I just made four bad pitches.” I guess he didn’t take into account that those four pitches traveled almost 2,000 feet.

Igawa was nearly as insane Friday night in discussing his abominable outing, telling us that all he has to do to improve is to strike out more batters.

“The result is part of baseball. It can happen in any game at any time,” Igawa said through his translator. “The next thing I would like to work on is getting more strikeouts.”

Joe Girardi and Chad Moeller both said Igawa’s biggest problem was a lack of command with his off-speed pitches. Igawa didn’t feel the same way. “I felt the changeup worked well in terms of control,” said the clueless pitcher. “In terms of the slider, I missed three pitches, one high. Besides that, I think they were pretty good.”

They were pretty good. If you were a Tigers fan, that is.

Repoz Posted: May 10, 2008 at 08:31 PM | 24 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. Ray (RDP)

Posted: May 10, 2008 at 08:40 PM (#2776094)

“I felt the changeup worked well in terms of control,” said the clueless pitcher.

I guess this is the kind of respectful criticism that Buzz Bissinger told us real journalists provide.

2. JRVJ (formerly Delta Socrates) Posted: May 10, 2008 at 08:48 PM (#2776095)

They needed a whole column to the make the point that Igawa is clueless?

3. Darren

Posted: May 10, 2008 at 09:01 PM (#2776100)

"They were pretty good. If you were a Tigers fan, that is," said the ####### reporter.

4. Robert S. Posted: May 10, 2008 at 09:04 PM (#2776102)

Baseball's just not his thing. No biggie.

5. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: May 10, 2008 at 09:43 PM (#2776114)

I hate it when idiots act smug. That applies both to presidents and baseball columnists.

6. Freeballin' (Tales of Met Power) Posted: May 10, 2008 at 09:45 PM (#2776117)

Is there a consensus on Feinsand here? Apart from this article, does he have a reputation in these parts?

7. The Piehole of David Wells, Depends Salesman

Posted: May 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM (#2776138)

Apart from this article, does he have a reputation in these parts?

he just earned a reputation: delusions of grandeur (seems to be a theme with daily news columnists these days), hatchet jobber, mean, not particularly insightful, bbwaa member. that about sums it up.

and

Baseball writing's just not his thing. No biggie.

fixed.

8. pkb33 Posted: May 10, 2008 at 10:03 PM (#2776141)

delusions of grandeur (seems to be a theme with daily news columnists these days), hatchet jobber, mean, not particularly insightful, bbwaa member

The last one pretty much tells us all of the former ones also apply doesn't it?

9. Rich Posted: May 10, 2008 at 10:55 PM (#2776180)

Fortunately, Rasner has been the anti-Igawa: he keeps the ball down and has good command to compensate for not having much velocity; and he's reality based, probably because he makes about $3.5 million less per year.

10. Bruce Markusen Posted: May 10, 2008 at 11:10 PM (#2776196)

I don't see what Feinsand's big sin is here. This is the "blogging" part of his job, which requires offering opinions. Having seen Igawa's performance last night, and matching them up with Igawa's quotes, I would agree that he seems to have little idea about how bad he was last night. Now maybe that's the fault of his interpreter for not accurately conveying what he said. But based on what Igawa's interpreter told the reporters--and that's all the reporters have to go on--Igawa is deluding himself.

11. Ray (RDP)

Posted: May 10, 2008 at 11:26 PM (#2776205)

I don't see what Feinsand's big sin is here.

I'm objecting to him repeatedly mocking Igawa as "clueless," "delusional," and "insane." If he thought Igawa's explanation of his bad outing missed the mark, Feinsand could have said so without insulting Igawa, who actually seemed to give a thoughtful explanation of his performance.

12. AJM Posted: May 10, 2008 at 11:41 PM (#2776211)

I guess this is the kind of respectful criticism that Buzz Bissinger told us real journalists provide.

Funny, I read the intro and assumed it was a Yankees fan posting to his blog or something. Then I noticed it was the Daily News, I guess I'm not really surprised.

13. Ray (RDP)

Posted: May 10, 2008 at 11:56 PM (#2776221)

I'm pretty sure we had a thread on this but I was amazed at what a fool Bissinger appears to be.

Yeah, there was a thread on this (I didn't participate).

My favorite part was when Bissinger tried to sandbag Leitch by asking him who W.C. Heinz was.

Well, that and Bissinger's head tilt, as if it was physically paining him to sit in the same room as Leitch.

14. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: May 11, 2008 at 01:04 AM (#2776308)

What Bissinger is pissed about is the the technology of his trade on him and he finds himself behind the curve.

What he's actually pissed about is the sorry state of journalism in general, and sports journalism in particular. He has a point there.

But he's got the wrong target when he blames blogging and the internet for the problem. He wants to go back to the days when sportswriters hung out and drank with the players after the game, and nobody wrote about the players' mistresses or the times when they got drunk and made fools of themselves. Those days are gone, and that has nothing to do with blogging.

15. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: May 11, 2008 at 01:14 AM (#2776327)

It has to do with television, though (even radio), which was a step on the way to blogging. The news cycle gets shorter and shorter.

16. Rough Carrigan

Posted: May 11, 2008 at 03:05 AM (#2776444)

I mentioned this over on SoSH. MLB extra innings had the Tigers' feed for their game Friday night against the yankees. The Tigers announcers remarked about how Magglio Ordonez had gone away from his usual batting practice regimen of mostly hitting to right field in favor of practicing pulling the ball deep. They didn't say so, but one could not help but infer that Ordonez was anticipating beating up on some Igawa offerings.

17. Belfry Bob Posted: May 11, 2008 at 06:47 AM (#2776522)

Heh, Ray. Funny you should bring Bissinger up. He was on MLB radio yesterday and provided a profanity-laced tirade against blogs in general and Deadspin in particular. What was really funny was that he dropped about 15 F-bombs in dismissing blog content as nothing but vulgar sputum.

I understand Bissinger carries in his breast pocket the names of twenty-five bloggers belonging to the Communist Party.

18. baudib Posted: May 11, 2008 at 08:33 AM (#2776527)

Ray reflexively defends the indefensible.

Feinsand's not a columnist.

19. Ray (RDP)

Posted: May 11, 2008 at 03:33 PM (#2776605)

What did I "defend"?

And I don't see why it matters what Feinsand's title is; the point is that a "real newspaper" is publishing his insults.

20. Cooperstown Schtick Posted: May 11, 2008 at 04:30 PM (#2776630)

After the stunning successes they've had with Irabu and Igawa, I expect it will be quite a long time before the Yankees go shopping for pitchers in Japan again.

Darrell Rasner has been senselessly buried by the Generation Trey nonsense. His stuff certainly isn't electric, but he's only allowed 16 walks in 64 MLB innings and he gets guys out. He is a great candidate to deliver league-average performance, which for the Yankees, with their lineup, makes for a winning pitcher.

21. Gaelan Posted: May 11, 2008 at 04:58 PM (#2776652)

I'm pretty sure we had a thread on this but I was amazed at what a fool Bissinger appears to be.

If that was the Costas now spot then I'm 100% behind Bissinger. The internet sucks (not sarcasm) and the people who write blogs don't know what they are talking about.

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